UN Spacy Posted November 28, 2018 Posted November 28, 2018 https://twitter.com/NXOnNetflix/status/1067644277847539712 Quote
Sanity is Optional Posted November 28, 2018 Posted November 28, 2018 Netflix has a good track record, but it's still Hollywood trying to adapt an anime to live action... Quote
TehPW Posted November 28, 2018 Posted November 28, 2018 I just want to know about this Eva thing mentioned on that Twitter feed? I assume they mean NGE... but I thought Eva was never gonna happen (in the US at least) because of it's biblical hijinks? Quote
UN Spacy Posted November 28, 2018 Author Posted November 28, 2018 17 minutes ago, TehPW said: I just want to know about this Eva thing mentioned on that Twitter feed? I assume they mean NGE... but I thought Eva was never gonna happen (in the US at least) because of it's biblical hijinks? Oh it's just the tv series. Hehehe. Quote
tekering Posted November 28, 2018 Posted November 28, 2018 An American live-action Cowboy Bebop? Quote
Valkyrie Hunter D Posted November 28, 2018 Posted November 28, 2018 I used to be more optimistic about stuff like this until I saw Netflix's Death Note. Quote
Dynaman Posted November 28, 2018 Posted November 28, 2018 (edited) They should call it Samurai Bebop - sort of a reverse of the "Seven Samurai" "The Magnificent Seven" dynamic. I plan on watching this but the original is great for US audiences already so they should just stream the original series again. The movie too. Edited November 28, 2018 by Dynaman Quote
Felix Posted November 28, 2018 Posted November 28, 2018 The original is available to stream on Hulu, I believe.  Quote
ErikElvis Posted November 28, 2018 Posted November 28, 2018 This could be good.  Could be bad.....  I’m excited for it   the live action Bleach movie wasn’t bad. Quote
technoblue Posted November 28, 2018 Posted November 28, 2018 30 minutes ago, ErikElvis said: This could be good.  Could be bad.....  I’m excited for it   the live action Bleach movie wasn’t bad. Yeah, that live-action Bleach movie was okay and I hope they are able to make good on the easter egg/promise at the very end. I'll give Cowboy Bebop a chance. I still need to watch the live-action version of Fullmetal Alchemist. Death Note couldn't hold my attention like the anime; Space Battleship Yamato was a superb train wreck. Quote
slaginpit Posted November 28, 2018 Posted November 28, 2018 if its anything like their death note THEN NOOOOOO No GOD NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooooooo By the way the Japanese Death Note Beyond DVD is coming out. Man the Shinigami look amazing Quote
Roy Focker Posted November 28, 2018 Posted November 28, 2018 Â Didn't Keanu say Cowboy Bebop would be too expensive to make into a live action? Quote
dizman Posted November 28, 2018 Posted November 28, 2018 Oh boy this can only end badly, hopefully we get some good fights out of it but I'm not going to expect much on the story side. 2 hours ago, Roy Focker said: Â Didn't Keanu say Cowboy Bebop would be too expensive to make into a live action? He's been working on getting this made for almost 10 years and Netflix seems to have a bunch of money to throw around so maybe Keanu got the crazy amount he was looking for. Quote
David Hingtgen Posted November 28, 2018 Posted November 28, 2018 If the budget's that crazy, let's use a real Space Shuttle for those scenes. Fly one back out to Edwards AFB... Quote
slide Posted November 29, 2018 Posted November 29, 2018 3 hours ago, Sildani said: Keanu Reeves? I'm willing to give a fellow nerd and Canuck a chance... the john wick movies have no right to be as good as they are, and it's mostly because of the passion of the makers and Keanu's level of dedication/training to look like he could win a gunfight... Keanu as spike would be weird, and awesome... Quote
Seto Kaiba Posted November 29, 2018 Posted November 29, 2018 ... I dread this. American filmmakers who try to adapt anime into a live-action feature tend to really flamingo up.1 They just don't understand subtlety, nuance, or pacing... and Cowboy Bebop would be a challenging title to adapt even for a highly talented filmmaker, given that it shares most of the writing challenges Firefly did and they emphatically couldn't make THAT work. When you have a story that's driven by a status quo of always being one step ahead of failure and one step behind the big payoff, it has a VERY short shelf life because the entire premise quickly gets stale.  Cowboy Bebop and Firefly are both remembered fondly because they were both short enough that the premise didn't have time to get completely stale before the end (and Cowboy Bebop changed gears in the last few episodes to focus on Spike's history with the Chinese mafia and his lover).  2017's Ghost in the Shell was hands-down the closest they've come to success thus far, in that the critics merely dismissed the film as a dull, lifeless, and singularly uninspired knockoff of a classic instead of crucifying it for being incoherent and nigh-unwatchable. It did make its budget back, but once advertising is factored in it still finished something to the tune of $100 million in the red. I've got a bad feeling Cowboy Bebop will be watered down and turned into a cheap clone of Minority Report.  1. Like a cock up, only much bigger... Quote
Marzan Posted November 29, 2018 Posted November 29, 2018 This is not going to be any good. Adapting something like Cowboy Bebop is extremely difficult to begin with, and one look at the staff working on this makes me even more wary. Hollywood cannot adapt anime with the necessary nuance and respect for the source. Quote
HardlyNever Posted December 5, 2018 Posted December 5, 2018 (edited) https://splashreport.com/cowboy-bebop-story-details/ JFC, a gun that shoots black holes. Never heard that one before. Why are they doing this? Oh yeah, money. But still, Cowboy Beebop (for better or worse) is one of my favorite animes after Macross, and I hate to see it bastardized like this. I'm going to give it a very skeptical chance when it comes out, but I'd be happier if they could just leave the original alone. Not everything needs a remake/reboot/sequel w/e the hell this is supposed to be. Come up with something halfway original for once, ffs. Edit: I should note I have no idea about the credibility of this "article." I don't know how or why the author should have access to any sort of info on the pilot. So take that for what you will. Edited December 5, 2018 by HardlyNever Quote
Bolt Posted December 5, 2018 Posted December 5, 2018 Sounds really awesome! Until I think about it.. Although, I thought Full Metal Alchemist wasn’t bad.. Curious to see how it goes.. Quote
Focslain Posted December 5, 2018 Posted December 5, 2018 1 hour ago, HardlyNever said: https://splashreport.com/cowboy-bebop-story-details/ JFC, a gun that shoots black holes. Never heard that one before. Why are they doing this? Oh yeah, money. But still, Cowboy Beebop (for better or worse) is one of my favorite animes after Macross, and I hate to see it bastardized like this. I'm going to give it a very skeptical chance when it comes out, but I'd be happier if they could just leave the original alone. Not everything needs a remake/reboot/sequel w/e the hell this is supposed to be. Come up with something halfway original for once, ffs. Edit: I should note I have no idea about the credibility of this "article." I don't know how or why the author should have access to any sort of info on the pilot. So take that for what you will. The article sounds like a treatment for Outlaw Star more then Cowboy Bebop. Honestly on the reboot/remake issue, it would be nice if this series was just in the same universe but with a new crew. That way you can keep the tone near the same without having to completely replicate it to appease fans of the original. Plus it would give room for new stories. Quote
Seto Kaiba Posted December 5, 2018 Posted December 5, 2018 12 minutes ago, Focslain said: Honestly on the reboot/remake issue, it would be nice if this series was just in the same universe but with a new crew. That way you can keep the tone near the same without having to completely replicate it to appease fans of the original. Plus it would give room for new stories. The problem with that approach is that, if you're not going to have any real connection to the original work, why bother using the familiar name? Announcing a live action Cowboy Bebop series is mainly going to get the attention of people familiar with the original work and naturally builds the expectation that they're going to see familiar sights and familiar characters. Ditching everything but the title is an invitation to the Angel Links problem where the audience is expected to enjoy it because the setting was the same but everything that made the setting fun has been removed. Quote
Focslain Posted December 5, 2018 Posted December 5, 2018 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Seto Kaiba said: The problem with that approach is that, if you're not going to have any real connection to the original work, why bother using the familiar name? Announcing a live action Cowboy Bebop series is mainly going to get the attention of people familiar with the original work and naturally builds the expectation that they're going to see familiar sights and familiar characters. Ditching everything but the title is an invitation to the Angel Links problem where the audience is expected to enjoy it because the setting was the same but everything that made the setting fun has been removed. So how does Star Trek avoid the same issue considering most of the series have had different crews? Heck we can add in Gundam and even Macross into that given that the best Macross next to the original is Frontier and that had none of the original casting. Edited December 5, 2018 by Focslain Quote
Seto Kaiba Posted December 5, 2018 Posted December 5, 2018 33 minutes ago, Focslain said: So how does Star Trek avoid the same issue considering most of the series have had different crews? Heck we can add in Gundam and even Macross into that given that the best Macross next to the original is Frontier and that had none of the original casting. Mainly because those are sequels rather than adaptations, reboots, or reimaginings. They managed audience expectations by promoting themselves as new, original stories in their respective story universes with their own distinct titles, casts, and story mechanics that didn't overlap with the original work. The creative process there was an additive one, where they built on the existing foundation of the original story instead of reworking it. When Macross and Gundam went back to reimagine their original works with modern standards, they made sure to closely follow the theme, tone, and setting of the original and just cosmetically update it. Paramount tried to totally retool Star Trek with the same-name movie reboot in 2009 and the fans crucified them for messing with the setting to turn it into a militaristic action story, just like audiences and reviewers tore into Ghost in the Shell (2017) for ditching the iconic philosophizing of the original and whitewashing the Major and tore the Dragonball Evolution movie apart for the... for the everything. Quote
Focslain Posted December 5, 2018 Posted December 5, 2018 47 minutes ago, Seto Kaiba said: Mainly because those are sequels rather than adaptations, reboots, or reimaginings. They managed audience expectations by promoting themselves as new, original stories in their respective story universes with their own distinct titles, casts, and story mechanics that didn't overlap with the original work. The creative process there was an additive one, where they built on the existing foundation of the original story instead of reworking it. When Macross and Gundam went back to reimagine their original works with modern standards, they made sure to closely follow the theme, tone, and setting of the original and just cosmetically update it. Paramount tried to totally retool Star Trek with the same-name movie reboot in 2009 and the fans crucified them for messing with the setting to turn it into a militaristic action story, just like audiences and reviewers tore into Ghost in the Shell (2017) for ditching the iconic philosophizing of the original and whitewashing the Major and tore the Dragonball Evolution movie apart for the... for the everything. Which would be nice if this was that, a sequal/side-story, but double checked and yeah this is a retelling which is a shame. Quote
HardlyNever Posted December 13, 2018 Posted December 13, 2018 As skeptical of this as I am, I gotta say I don't actually hate these character descriptions: http://www.thathashtagshow.com/2018/12/11/exclusive-netflix-cowboy-bebop-character-breakdowns-and-production-start-date/ At least they aren't "white-washing" things. And I sort of like the idea of mixed race/ethnicity characters, as it can be hard to really identify who is what (in a good way). Also, it's in the future and all that, so you would think there might be more "mixed" people in a more global future. Quote
electric indigo Posted December 13, 2018 Posted December 13, 2018 Too bad, I just wanted to nominate 2009's Joseph Gordon-Levitt for Spike Quote
kajnrig Posted April 4, 2019 Posted April 4, 2019 Dunno if true, but that's actually a pretty damn fine pick. He's proven to be a great dramatic actor. Quote
UN Spacy Posted April 4, 2019 Author Posted April 4, 2019 Looks like the crew hs been cast. Â Â Quote
Bolt Posted April 4, 2019 Posted April 4, 2019 Looking forward (holding my breadth too!) to seeing how this develops! Quote
505thAirborne Posted April 4, 2019 Posted April 4, 2019 Been a fan of John Cho since day one, so I'm totally cool with him as Spike. Quote
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