Thom Posted January 10, 2023 Posted January 10, 2023 3 hours ago, sh9000 said: That needs to be a poster! Quote
pengbuzz Posted January 10, 2023 Posted January 10, 2023 6 hours ago, sh9000 said: The Brady Bunch, cir. 2399? Quote
sh9000 Posted January 10, 2023 Posted January 10, 2023 5 hours ago, Thom said: That needs to be a poster! Yeah it would make a cool poster. Probably a cool shirt too. Quote
Seto Kaiba Posted January 11, 2023 Posted January 11, 2023 Might do for a dartboard once they're done dragging their respective beloved characters through the mud. Quote
Dobber Posted January 11, 2023 Posted January 11, 2023 (edited) I unfortunately am sort of feeling the same way. The whole “never meet your heroes” type thing. Edited January 11, 2023 by Dobber Quote
pengbuzz Posted January 11, 2023 Posted January 11, 2023 8 hours ago, Seto Kaiba said: Might do for a dartboard once they're done dragging their respective beloved characters through the mud. This is why AFAIC, TNG canon ended with Nemesis. Quote
derex3592 Posted January 11, 2023 Posted January 11, 2023 8 hours ago, pengbuzz said: This is why AFAIC, TNG canon ended with Nemesis. Should have ended with "All Good Things" in my opinion..... I guess First Contact was ok..but everything else...meeehhh. Nemesis had potential, but lost it about half way in. Quote
Mog Posted January 11, 2023 Posted January 11, 2023 Is it bad that I didn’t recognize Denise Crosby (Tasha Yar) and was wondering, “Who the hell is that?” We have to keep First Contact, as they introduced the grey uniforms (looked slightly more formal than the black uniform with colored shoulders, could be dressed down to look like you could do actual work in them, and could vary the look with the vest or unzipped top). Quote
Seto Kaiba Posted January 11, 2023 Posted January 11, 2023 12 hours ago, Dobber said: I unfortunately am sort of feeling the same way. The whole “never meet your heroes” type thing. Yeah, Star Trek: Picard seems to prompt that reaction from a lot of fans. There was a news post on Reddit the other day where Patrick Stewart expressed willingness/interest in doing additional seasons of Picard beyond its third-and-final season and almost all of the nearly one-thousand replies were folks hoping it would not come to pass. IMO, it's rather amusing and illustrative that the top streaming series on Paramount+ in 2022 was Halo rather than any of the five NuTrek shows that released new seasons in 2022. It narrowly edged out 1883 and Yellowstone to seize the top spot. After reviewing a number of viewership metrics trackers, NuTrek seems to struggle to chart at all. The only one of the NuTrek titles to break into the top 10 most-watched shows on Paramount+ in 2022 was Discovery season four, and only because it aired over the New Year's break. Picard peaked at 12th. It's also still the second-worst rated Star Trek series on review aggregators (ahead of only Discovery) and third-worst title in the franchise overall. Quote
sh9000 Posted January 16, 2023 Posted January 16, 2023 https://fb.watch/i5a72u8qm6/?mibextid=v7YzmG Quote
pengbuzz Posted January 16, 2023 Posted January 16, 2023 Frankly, the video on dosa's were more interesting (was in the sidebar)... Quote
Seto Kaiba Posted January 17, 2023 Posted January 17, 2023 8 hours ago, sh9000 said: https://fb.watch/i5a72u8qm6/?mibextid=v7YzmG Huh... what a conundrum. Do I mock this obviously half-arsed PV for the unasked-for TNG cast reunion Picard was never supposed to become? Or do I praise the Paramount marketing team for putting the absolute minimum amount of effort into trying to polish this already-cancelled turd propping up the bottom of Star Trek's franchise page on Rotten Tomatoes? Worf is the character with the most appearances of any character in all of Star Trek (272 and counting!) and they promote his return with that? Quote
Seto Kaiba Posted January 30, 2023 Posted January 30, 2023 2 hours ago, sh9000 said: Speaking for the audience at the end, I see. "Are you enjoying this?" "No. Are you?" Quote
Hikaru Ichijo SL Posted January 30, 2023 Posted January 30, 2023 18 hours ago, sh9000 said: Wow, this trailer really made me lose all interest in this show. Quote
Dynaman Posted January 31, 2023 Posted January 31, 2023 Looks good to me. I might finally subscribe for a month to catch up on all of the shows since Season 1 of Picard. Quote
sh9000 Posted January 31, 2023 Posted January 31, 2023 https://www.startrek.com/news/remembering-annie-wersching-1977-2023 RIP Annie Wersching. Quote
TangledThorns Posted February 10, 2023 Posted February 10, 2023 On 1/31/2023 at 12:05 AM, sh9000 said: https://www.startrek.com/news/remembering-annie-wersching-1977-2023 RIP Annie Wersching. Annie was great in 24 too. Quote
sh9000 Posted February 16, 2023 Posted February 16, 2023 Just watched season 3 episode 1 and enjoyed it. Quote
Chronocidal Posted February 16, 2023 Posted February 16, 2023 I'm actually really curious, because I'm seeing a fair amount of unexpected positive feedback on season 3. I'm not going to rush to see it, but I'm actually just happy to see people celebrating something they're enjoying. Quote
Hikuro Posted February 17, 2023 Posted February 17, 2023 I'm gonna go and just say it, this season 3 opener was more Star Trek than the previous 2 seasons combined. The tempo was nice, the visuals were enjoyable, and the music, while Season 1 and 2 didn't have horrible music, it was just certainly forgettable. They seemed to of finally found something that works by not fixing what wasn't broken and going back to what made even the films so much fun orchestra wise. I'm not 100% sure if I'm right on this, but the uniforms this season seem to look better than season 2 and of course a hell of a lot better than season 1. I gotta tell you, if they can keep up this pace for the entire season then I'm gonna have a lot of fun watching it compared to season 1 or 2. Quote
Roy Focker Posted February 17, 2023 Posted February 17, 2023 If episode 1 of season 3 was the first episode of this series I would be happy. It does feel like reunion to go on a grand adventure after years apart. Like a true sequel to the Next Generation movies. Unfortunately, it is following 1 mediocre and 1 bad season. It feels like a course correction. After the first 2 seasons and the movies I keep thinking the last episode of their original TV series was the perfect ending. We didn't need more adventures of the Enterprise D. Especially action-packed adventures. Small spoiler the episode opens with Doctor Crusher in a phaser fight and she's fighting like veteran. Using her wits and skill with a phaser. Wasn't she just the doctor? As a member of Star Fleet, she would know how to use a phaser but not with the same training as more combat leaning character. It has been decades so maybe things have changed. I just look at this opening scene and think, why do they have to make everyone an action hero. They did this with Picard in the movies too. As a kid I may have desired more action while watching STNG. As an adult I really appreciate the problem-solving characters who used their brains and diplomacy to solve problems. Quote
azrael Posted February 17, 2023 Posted February 17, 2023 I'll keep my 👍 or 👎 till this is over. 18 minutes ago, Roy Focker said: Small spoiler the episode opens with Doctor Crusher in a phaser fight and she's fighting like veteran. Using her wits and skill with a phaser. Wasn't she just the doctor? Dr. Crusher can handle phaser. She's fought the Borg, 3 times, a crazy scientist who can stop his vital functions on a whim, Cardassians, the Son'a, oh and a parasitic anaphasic lifeform from a candle. Capt. Shaw reminds me of, as Ensign Mariner would say, a Capt. Jellico-type of commander. Might/might not be a micro-manager but someone with a rod shoved up his ass. Quote
Mommar Posted February 17, 2023 Posted February 17, 2023 17 hours ago, Hikuro said: They seemed to of finally found something that works by not fixing what wasn't broken and going back to what made even the films so much fun orchestra wise. It's because Alex Kurtzman isn't in charge this season. Someone who actually LIKES and has made previous Trek is on this season. Only problem is it's still saddled with the franchise debasement of the previous seasons. Quote
sh9000 Posted February 17, 2023 Posted February 17, 2023 (edited) Looking forward to enjoying this season. Edited February 24, 2023 by sh9000 Quote
Seto Kaiba Posted February 17, 2023 Posted February 17, 2023 10 minutes ago, Roy Focker said: It does feel like reunion to go on a grand adventure after years apart. The painful irony there being that that's exactly what Star Trek: Picard was never supposed to become. The showrunners explicitly promised that Star Trek: Picard wasn't gonna be a TNG cast reunion. They were going to focus on the original characters. Funny how that worked out... 10 minutes ago, Roy Focker said: Like a true sequel to the Next Generation movies. Unfortunately, it is following 1 mediocre and 1 bad season. It feels like a course correction. After the first 2 seasons and the movies I keep thinking the last episode of their original TV series was the perfect ending. We didn't need more adventures of the Enterprise D. Especially action-packed adventures. Agreed... "All Good Things" wasn't the best final episode we've ever had, but it was a satisfying and logical conclusion to the series that really didn't NEED a follow-up. Picard only exists in the first place because Star Trek: Discovery's first season was so poorly received. It was meant to be a comparatively "safe" show driven by the star power of a franchise veteran to "win back the crowd". I guess we ended up with Jean-Luc Picard because they killed Kirk off in Generations and they felt Patrick Stewart would be more of a draw than, say, Avery Brooks or Kate Mulgrew. 10 minutes ago, Roy Focker said: Small spoiler the episode opens with Doctor Crusher in a phaser fight and she's fighting like veteran. Using her wits and skill with a phaser. Wasn't she just the doctor? As a member of Star Fleet, she would know how to use a phaser but not with the same training as more combat leaning character. In all fairness, that at least can be justified fairly easily. Not only was Dr. Crusher the CMO on Starfleet's most-attacked ship for nearly 15 years (it'd be 16 but for the year Pulaski took over)... ample justification for being handy with a phaser... she's had special forces training in-series in the TNG two-parter "Chain of Command". (The botched raid where Picard gets tortured.) 10 minutes ago, Roy Focker said: It has been decades so maybe things have changed. I just look at this opening scene and think, why do they have to make everyone an action hero. They did this with Picard in the movies too. As a kid I may have desired more action while watching STNG. As an adult I really appreciate the problem-solving characters who used their brains and diplomacy to solve problems. Because the showrunners wish they were working on Star Wars. Quote
TehPW Posted February 17, 2023 Posted February 17, 2023 (edited) Seto, that sounds alot like why JJ jumped to SW7 after STID: The Merchandising alone... and this comes to mind, especially with JJ's open desires for $$$ above story: Are all the people involved in the current problems with the ST IP (and SW7~9 by extension) younger Boomers, Gen-Xers or Millennials? Edited February 17, 2023 by TehPW Just pondering the 'Why' Star Trek is so sh*t upon as a IP by TPTB...? Quote
azrael Posted February 18, 2023 Posted February 18, 2023 2 hours ago, TehPW said: Are all the people involved in the current problems with the ST IP (and SW7~9 by extension) younger Boomers, Gen-Xers or Millennials? JJ: 1966 Kurtzman: 1973 Goldsman: 1960 Rod Roddenberry (Gene's & Majel's son): 1970 Terry Matalas (S3 sole showrunner): 1974 The birthdays for the other series showrunners (Strange New Worlds, Lower Decks, Discovery) are not listed. Quote
Seto Kaiba Posted February 18, 2023 Posted February 18, 2023 2 hours ago, TehPW said: Seto, that sounds alot like why JJ jumped to SW7 after STID: The Merchandising alone... It's the main problem with Star Trek these days... the people in charge seem to want to make Star Trek into an action series. Not a sci-fi series with the occasional action scene or action elements, but just a bog-standard sci-fi action series like Star Wars or Battlestar Galactica. Not that this is necessarily entirely on the new guys either. There was the increased emphasis on action that began with the last few seasons of Deep Space Nine thanks to its war arc, with Voyager's last few seasons because the writers were burned out on Star Trek and the Borg made a convenient recurring threat that needed no character development by nature, and with the entirety of Star Trek: Enterprise prior to its fourth and final season as it attempted to course-correct away from Scott Bakula getting beat up by aliens every fortnight. 2 hours ago, TehPW said: and this comes to mind, especially with JJ's open desires for $$$ above story: Are all the people involved in the current problems with the ST IP (and SW7~9 by extension) younger Boomers, Gen-Xers or Millennials? Hmm... Star Trek '09: Abrams: 1966 Lindelof: 1973 Orci: 1973 Kurtzman: 1973 Into Darkness Burk: 1968 Beyond Pegg: 1970 Jung: ? Chernov: 1952 Ellison: 1983 Lin: 1971 So basically everyone except producers Jeffrey Chernov and David Ellison (Star Trek: Beyond) is a Gen X-er. Doug Jung's bio doesn't list a birth year. The same holds true for almost all of the producers and writers who have published biographical information from Star Trek: Discovery. There are a couple highly placed baby boomers like Akiva Goldsman, but almost all of them seem to have been born between 1969 and 1973, making them solidly Gen X. Kind of inevitable, really, given that almost all baby boomers are over 60 now. Quote
sh9000 Posted February 18, 2023 Posted February 18, 2023 https://www.startrek.com/news/recap-star-trek-picard-301-the-next-generation Quote
Rhubarbarian Posted February 20, 2023 Posted February 20, 2023 On 2/17/2023 at 5:29 PM, azrael said: The birthdays for the other series showrunners (Strange New Worlds, Lower Decks, Discovery) are not listed. Mike McMahan was apparently born in 1962, which makes me a very bad judge of age because I assumed 1972. Quote
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