no3Ljm Posted July 31, 2018 Posted July 31, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, enphily said: maybe for GBP parts Hmmm. Maybe. But if it gets folded and the GBP armor is inserted, it will have a big side profile in that area. And won't be able to close the wings in Battroid Mode. Edited July 31, 2018 by no3Ljm Quote
vlenhoff Posted July 31, 2018 Posted July 31, 2018 I see your point No3Ljm. Now that nose /radar thing, i do see as a complication, lol. Unless it is there for the GBP. I am not a huge fan of the radar cone thing, it has been done before. My old 1/48 are actually pretty sturdy, when you think how many times i've transformed them. Still, I am pretty sure it might have to do with the future GBP release. Quote
recon Posted July 31, 2018 Posted July 31, 2018 Was thinking out loud. Was there ever a backpack issue with the 1/48 yammies. If there was, will bandai design replicate or eliminate the same issue? Quote
recon Posted July 31, 2018 Posted July 31, 2018 1 hour ago, no3Ljm said: I wonder why they decided to put hinge for the nose tip. Does it have a radar gimik inside? Nope no radar inside the nosecone. Its probably designed that way so that the gpb crotch piece would be so long like the thunder hummer Quote
davidwhangchoi Posted July 31, 2018 Posted July 31, 2018 I guess we taking off the frost canopy bc that looks better clear. Quote
Duymon Posted July 31, 2018 Posted July 31, 2018 (edited) 6 hours ago, no3Ljm said: Why did they say that? How difficult they want to transform the VF-1 compared to SV-262? Well, actually it was from user feedback. When the Draken is mentioned I read this "ユーザーからもその変形の難易度が高いとの声があった" Basically translates to a lot of users said the transformation was hard Can you believe that? Bandai actually does listen to customers sometimes hehehe. Maybe they can listen to us about the YF-19's reversed colors and huge ass white wing lettering? Anyhow, really psyched for this VF-1J. The Plastic Latch for the metal swingbar looks like something I'm gonna need to be really gentle with. Folding Nosecone for GBP, nice catch Edited July 31, 2018 by Duymon Quote
vlenhoff Posted July 31, 2018 Posted July 31, 2018 17 minutes ago, recon said: Was thinking out loud. Was there ever a backpack issue with the 1/48 yammies. If there was, will bandai design replicate or eliminate the same issue? I do recall some people broke the back pack hinges or something. Out of my entire 1/48 collection nothing has ever broken. Except for one of my CF valks took a dive on my hard wood floor and broke the headlaser, and yes, it was my fault. My jacket caught the edge of it's gun and dragged it down as i turned around. I had panel lined it, so i always had it next to me. I never fixed the laser, since it magically disappeared, and it is still one of my favorites. Other than that, none of my 20+ 1/48 have ever broken anything. Quote
spacemanoeuvres Posted July 31, 2018 Posted July 31, 2018 No nose cone radar gimmick?!? Preorder cancelled Quote
Xigfrid Posted July 31, 2018 Posted July 31, 2018 Haha, guess I will let Mr K know that I am ready to cancel my DX order if he makes all the gimmicks in 1:60 scale. And cherish on the cake, I will give my 5min work on the shaft mechanism for free. Quote
SuperSenpai Posted July 31, 2018 Posted July 31, 2018 I'll give Bandai credit -- that's a novel take on the hip/leg transformation. Although it's interesting that the bar that swings the hips down has to be detached in order to achieve the waist articulation, and confirms my suspicions that it would be difficult to practically achieve without detaching the legs. But I suppose that this is technically still perfect transformation since the detachment from the swing bar is optional, and not absolutely required to achieve the transformation. Quote
vlenhoff Posted July 31, 2018 Posted July 31, 2018 Good diagram there Xigfrid. I hope Bandai can make a fun, slightly durable 1/48 as Yamato did. It is still by far, my favorite Macross item. Quote
Matt Random Posted July 31, 2018 Posted July 31, 2018 As nice as this looks in the Hikaru VF-1J colors, the mold is going to positively shine with the Hikaru DYRL VF-1S deco. Especially once the Strike parts are available. Quote
vlenhoff Posted July 31, 2018 Posted July 31, 2018 For some reason the 1J will always be my favorite. I really love the 1S, and the others, specially the TV versions. I hope Bandai goes through the TV versions first. Yes, I'd still get the movie versions, but TV was my first love. Quote
sh9000 Posted July 31, 2018 Posted July 31, 2018 10 hours ago, seti88 said: I dont thk so, else it would have been listed as a 'gimmick'. Tho it would be pretty funny if you turn hikaru's head around, arms up and posed the fighter flying like that. Like a roller coaster ride. Quote
Lord_Of_Tetris Posted July 31, 2018 Posted July 31, 2018 7 hours ago, no3Ljm said: Hmmm. Maybe. But if it gets folded and the GBP armor is inserted, it will have a big side profile in that area. And won't be able to close the wings in Battroid Mode. Not necessarily. I'm not saying I've discovered how it works, but I've thought of a way that it could work, in which a folding nosecone allows for a smaller crotch piece, no huge side profile, and still lets the wings close. If the nosecone doesn't fold up all the way, but more like a fold of ~45 degrees, then I can imagine a seamless look with a small crotch armor piece. Also, I'm at work, so the best I could do was an MS Paint diagram. Marvel at my amazing art skills. Quote
Mechapilot77 Posted July 31, 2018 Posted July 31, 2018 that swingbar design is almost (like 99% cheating) but just skates by for perfect transformation. its like a relay race baton. it never detached from teh main assembly (aka someone' s hand in a relay race analogy) so its "perfect transformation". lol. still want this bad! Quote
vlenhoff Posted July 31, 2018 Posted July 31, 2018 Why can’t people remember that this is the closest way to how Kawamori envisioned it... Quote
Convectuoso Posted July 31, 2018 Posted July 31, 2018 I love the detachable swingbar idea. To me, that's still perfect transformation Quote
SuperSenpai Posted July 31, 2018 Posted July 31, 2018 36 minutes ago, vlenhoff said: Why can’t people remember that this is the closest way to how Kawamori envisioned it... If you're referring to the hip transformation... I think some people are less interested in authenticity for the sake of authenticity and just want a toy that handles well. Besides, I was always under the impression that the hip transformation as designed in the original art was more of a cheat to explain why the valk looked the way it did, vs. being an intended transformation from the get-go. Quote
Vi-RS Posted July 31, 2018 Posted July 31, 2018 Bandai didn’t ask for a premium price for premium finish. What a big slap in the face for Mr K. Quote
Mommar Posted July 31, 2018 Posted July 31, 2018 1 minute ago, Vi-RS said: Bandai didn’t ask for a premium price for premium finish. What a big slap in the face for Mr K. Bandai’s also a mega corporation and Arcadia are small fries. Quote
vlenhoff Posted July 31, 2018 Posted July 31, 2018 It is always easier for a big company to this sort of thing. A small company like Yamato and Arcadia won't have the resources to do this at a good cost, IMHO. Quote
Lolicon Posted July 31, 2018 Posted July 31, 2018 I also enjoy celebrating when Wal-mart crushes other smaller businesses in town. Quote
Slave IV Posted July 31, 2018 Posted July 31, 2018 18 minutes ago, Lolicon said: I also enjoy celebrating when Wal-mart crushes other smaller businesses in town. LOL Quote
Daedalus Posted July 31, 2018 Posted July 31, 2018 1 hour ago, Lolicon said: I also enjoy celebrating when Wal-mart crushes other smaller businesses in town. haha true. Tho while I do agree that we should support smaller shops, they have to stay competitive and price within certain realities of the consumer. I donno if I was able to follow Arcadia's pricing upwards while innovations left them a bit behind. Quote
Vi-RS Posted August 1, 2018 Posted August 1, 2018 1 hour ago, vlenhoff said: It is always easier for a big company to this sort of thing. A small company like Yamato and Arcadia won't have the resources to do this at a good cost, IMHO. Don't get me wrong, I love and own every 1/60 Yamato valkyrie after 2003 when they released the V2, and I stop once Yamato is done after the release of VF-4. Personally I think they are beating a dead horse by putting premium price tag on premium finish. Yeah, you can't compete with other big companies as a smaller firm, but what they could do is their innovative ideas and engineering on toys that shaped Yamato's philosophy in the first place. Ironically, I understand that it didn't last long for Yamato, which is the reason that Arcadia is doing what they are doing now. Coming back to the Chogokin, I believe this is what Arcadia would have done as well, minus the tempo printing, if they were to do V2 on 1/48. The Chogokin is a scaled up V2 Yammies with lots of improvements on interlocking mechanisms and joints that enable poseabilities and maximum perfect transformation. Quote
Sanity is Optional Posted August 1, 2018 Posted August 1, 2018 Arcadia uses external design teams. https://www.forbes.com/sites/olliebarder/2017/09/08/arcadia-talks-about-how-it-makes-the-best-macross-and-megazone-23-toys-out-there/ Quote
Gabe Q Posted August 1, 2018 Posted August 1, 2018 32 minutes ago, Sanity is Optional said: Arcadia uses external design teams. https://www.forbes.com/sites/olliebarder/2017/09/08/arcadia-talks-about-how-it-makes-the-best-macross-and-megazone-23-toys-out-there/ From the article: “Even though we are re-releasing the movie version of the SDF-1 Macross, we do want to do the TV series version as well but that is still undergoing approval from the copyright holder. Personally, I really want to do it. Quote
HardlyNever Posted August 1, 2018 Posted August 1, 2018 1 hour ago, Daedalus said: Tho while I do agree that we should support smaller shops, they have to stay competitive and price within certain realities of the consumer. I donno if I was able to follow Arcadia's pricing upwards while innovations left them a bit behind. Agreed. In order for the companies to compete, they both need to be... competitive. Arcadia is slipping away on the value front. I do want them to stick around, but they need to do a better job of finding their niche where their prices aren't insane. I know they won't ever have Bandai's resources, but they need to find an edge somewhere. Quote
Duymon Posted August 1, 2018 Posted August 1, 2018 don't feel lile turning this into an arcadia thread, but they could prolly get some funding by offering kit versions of the 1a/j/s or even their vf-0's. Quote
chyll2 Posted August 1, 2018 Posted August 1, 2018 Yeah. More kit is great. I had tons of fun doing one. Quote
Firefox Posted August 1, 2018 Posted August 1, 2018 For Aussie fans that miss the pre-order, there's a local online retailer still accept pre-order. Haven't dealt with them before, so can't say if they can fulfil the pre-order. Not terrible expensive though. And only pay when release. https://www.ausani.com.au/product/dx-chogokin-the-super-dimension-fortress-macross-first-limited-edition-vf-1j-valkyrie-ichijyo-hikaru/ Quote
MacrossMania Posted August 1, 2018 Posted August 1, 2018 4 hours ago, Lolicon said: I also enjoy celebrating when Wal-mart crushes other smaller businesses in town. This was literally an LOL for me. An L-LOL?? Quote
troyness Posted August 1, 2018 Posted August 1, 2018 New video footage. Look at how detailed that pilot is!!....What those markings on the battroids leftside chest inside/above the cornered red stripe? Quote
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