Alphahorizon Posted April 8, 2019 Posted April 8, 2019 Just now, Corrinald said: If by some miracle I snag a few along the way, I will try to help members out here. Good looking out for the MWers @Corrinald. Quote
mister_e Posted April 8, 2019 Posted April 8, 2019 This was crazy. I went to bed just minutes before it went up on Amazon JP. Still kicking myself about that. I was able to secure an order at HLJ, but I am worried I may get the dreaded "Server Error" email and the order canceled. I was hoping to get an order in with Amazon just to be sure. Quote
Arkham Posted April 8, 2019 Posted April 8, 2019 Amazon JP does not deliver here. I'm out of options. If any of you guys want to "trade" I'll be happy to cover those costs Quote
scand Posted April 8, 2019 Posted April 8, 2019 2 hours ago, Corrinald said: I ended up empty handed and am seriously reconsidering doing this any more. I think I would prefer to go to the dentist and get my teeth drilled on before I ever do this again. Quote
nathans82 Posted April 8, 2019 Posted April 8, 2019 7 minutes ago, Corrinald said: If by some miracle I snag a few along the way, I will try to help members out here. You sir @Corrinaldare awesome and I'd be interested if you can get some. Quote
easnoddy Posted April 8, 2019 Posted April 8, 2019 I hate to say it, but I think the prices on these are too LOW. If they were closer to $250-300 to start, scalpers would be a lot less likely to buy up stock. $300 seems to be the cutoff point on premium valkyries for most collectors. Quote
easnoddy Posted April 8, 2019 Posted April 8, 2019 Hey look, the c***s***ers are already out...(this is in the US) https://www.ebay.com/itm/BANDAI-DX-CHOGOKIN-VF-1A-VALKYRIE-MAX-ROBOTECH-MACROSS-vf-1j-masterpiece-1-48/254192964913?hash=item3b2f14d531:g:SjMAAOSwJzpcqxrJ Quote
HardlyNever Posted April 8, 2019 Posted April 8, 2019 I'm surprised Bandai doesn't get more push back from the online retailers for these shenanigans. Certainly getting DDoS'd every time a chogokin figure goes up for preorder is bad for business. We could definitely use a change in the system. Quote
Phangry Posted April 8, 2019 Posted April 8, 2019 (edited) 11 minutes ago, easnoddy said: I hate to say it, but I think the prices on these are too LOW. If they were closer to $250-300 to start, scalpers would be a lot less likely to buy up stock. $300 seems to be the cutoff point on premium valkyries for most collectors. Or Bandai could just make an amount proportional to the demand, while maintaining a reasonable msrp. If you want to go pay $300, nin nin has you covered. Edited April 8, 2019 by Phangry Quote
Gwynne Posted April 8, 2019 Posted April 8, 2019 I now remember why I did not collect frontier valks. I knew the VF-1J was too good to be true. God damn it Bandai... Quote
scand Posted April 8, 2019 Posted April 8, 2019 6 minutes ago, easnoddy said: Hey look, the c***s***ers are already out...(this is in the US) https://www.ebay.com/itm/BANDAI-DX-CHOGOKIN-VF-1A-VALKYRIE-MAX-ROBOTECH-MACROSS-vf-1j-masterpiece-1-48/254192964913?hash=item3b2f14d531:g:SjMAAOSwJzpcqxrJ Well at least you get free economy shipping! Quote
Duymon Posted April 8, 2019 Posted April 8, 2019 would be hilarious if that scalper dude makes the sale and then hlj cancels his PO in a week. paypal us changing it so PP fees aren't refunded anymore Quote
orindlt Posted April 8, 2019 Posted April 8, 2019 The teaching and trying to cope with PO madness thing didn't work. Got cart jacked at cdjapan and HLJ. I guess it's just fork over a kidney when they are released (I notice AmiAmi has the first one of this series in stock) Quote
CharlesXavier Posted April 8, 2019 Posted April 8, 2019 I hope Roy Focker will be a web exclusive. If it’s this mad with Max, I can’t imagine how it would be if Roy is a normal release. Quote
easnoddy Posted April 8, 2019 Posted April 8, 2019 I could deal with only TWE from here on out. Pre-pay and all. Quote
rdrunner Posted April 8, 2019 Posted April 8, 2019 30 minutes ago, easnoddy said: Hey look, the c***s***ers are already out...(this is in the US) https://www.ebay.com/itm/BANDAI-DX-CHOGOKIN-VF-1A-VALKYRIE-MAX-ROBOTECH-MACROSS-vf-1j-masterpiece-1-48/254192964913?hash=item3b2f14d531:g:SjMAAOSwJzpcqxrJ LOL, this reminds me of the $799 USD VF-31A with free shipping on ebay a year or so before! Quote
Mechapilot77 Posted April 8, 2019 Posted April 8, 2019 i was happy to sit this one out. I don't need to rebuild vermillion squadron at 1/48th scale even though i freely admit yamarcadia 2.0 has been bested by a good margin. space, budget, and my own mental sanity ruled the day last night for me haha. sad to hear it was another tough one for the MWers who tried. the hik 1J was a must though and i'm glad someone on here helped me out in getting one. a roy fokker 1S (of course) will be a must when it comes out so I can only hope bandai will be smarter at this by then. part of me thinks bandai loves these scalpers though. *sigh* i REALLY hope super parts (for TV style) and super/strike parts (for dyrl style) will not be an issue. It seems the missile set wasn't hard to get so hopefully those packs won't be either. i don't **need** a gbp-1S in 1/48 but i'd be happy if they made up and definitely would get it. Quote
rdrunner Posted April 8, 2019 Posted April 8, 2019 10 minutes ago, CharlesXavier said: I hope Roy Focker will be a web exclusive. If it’s this mad with Max, I can’t imagine how it would be if Roy is a normal release. My hope is that Bandai will up the production number for the Roy 1S, since they KNOW demand will be the strongest for this one amongst all other variants. Kinda like how they decided to reissue Roy's VF-25S. But yeah, going forward all POs for DX VF-1's will be extremely difficult. Quote
HardlyNever Posted April 8, 2019 Posted April 8, 2019 This is eerily similar to what happened to the concert/event ticket market about 10-15 years ago, when all those sales moved online. Botters ruined that market too, and it turns out a lot of the venues and promoters were in on the take. I'd like to assume Bandai just doesn't care that much about Macross and doesn't really care to resolve the issue. I really hope they aren't actively profiting off of the botters/scalpers. Quote
Ignacio Ocamica Posted April 8, 2019 Posted April 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, Mechapilot77 said: i was happy to sit this one out. I don't need to rebuild vermillion squadron at 1/48th scale even though i freely admit yamarcadia 2.0 has been bested by a good margin. space, budget, and my own mental sanity ruled the day last night for me haha. sad to hear it was another tough one for the MWers who tried. the hik 1J was a must though and i'm glad someone on here helped me out in getting one. a roy fokker 1S (of course) will be a must when it comes out so I can only hope bandai will be smarter at this by then. part of me thinks bandai loves these scalpers though. *sigh* i REALLY hope super parts (for TV style) and super/strike parts (for dyrl style) will not be an issue. It seems the missile set wasn't hard to get so hopefully those packs won't be either. i don't **need** a gbp-1S in 1/48 but i'd be happy if they made up and definitely would get it. Given the chance to preorder Focker at 18K and end empty handed because of scalpers and not enough stock, would make me extremely mad. Got lucky with Hikaru's 1J but not with Max ride. Already decided I won't build Vermillion squad at this scale. Bummer. Quote
Shizuka the Cat Posted April 8, 2019 Posted April 8, 2019 DX Chogokin 1/48 VF-1A TV Max pre-order madness: April 8, 2019 AVAILABLE NOW 31,130 yen @ Yano Shop via AmazonJP https://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/product/B07QC9VHJC/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A2HD4G7SARR8CA&psc=1 (+4,800 yen shipping to United States) 33,319 yen @ CDJapan Proxy Service http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/agency/yahoo/product/puremiamuserekuto_4573102567222 277.56 usd @ Nin-Nin-Games https://www.nin-nin-game.com/en/japanese-import-hobbies-toys-game-character/31513-macross-vf-1a-valkyrie-maximillian-jenius-use-dx-chogokin--4573102567222.html NOT AVAILABLE 16,280 yen @ Nippon-Yasan https://www.nippon-yasan.com/figures/27881-super-dimension-fortress-macross-dx-chogokin-vf-1a-valkyrie-maximilian-jenius-custom.html 17,100 yen @ Hobby Search https://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10605111 18,000 yen @ AmazonJP https://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/product/B07QC9VHJC/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=AN1VRQENFRJN5&psc=1 18,000 yen @ CDJapan http://mag.cdjapan.co.jp/?4_--_3284216_--_1885_--_9 18,000 yen @ HLJ https://hlj.com/dx-chogokin-vf-1a-valkyrie-maximilian-jenius-use-bans56722 18,450 yen @ AmiAmi https://www.amiami.com/eng/detail/?gcode=FIGURE-047859 18,468 yen @ Nin-Nin-Games https://www.nin-nin-game.com/en/japanese-import-hobbies-toys-game-character/31513-macross-vf-1a-valkyrie-maximillian-jenius-use-dx-chogokin--4573102567222.html 259.90 usd @ Kurama Shop https://www.bandaionline.com/dx-chogokin-vf-1a-valkyrie-maximilian-jenius-custom-action-figure/ Quote
Mechinyun Posted April 8, 2019 Posted April 8, 2019 (edited) Well there is a possibility that the price will come down some from resellers in the coming weeks. Like an IPO, its hyped before, speculators invest on day 1, the stock drops dramatically in the coming days when real demand is not there and the volume is released back into the public with a race to dump. Maybe... Edited April 8, 2019 by Mechinyun Quote
moose Posted April 8, 2019 Posted April 8, 2019 When did Amazon put up their orders I looked all night Quote
Shizuka the Cat Posted April 8, 2019 Posted April 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, moose said: When did Amazon put up their orders I looked all night Around 4:30 AM Eastern Time Quote
DYRL VF-1S Posted April 8, 2019 Posted April 8, 2019 Anyone here know how to write a competing Bot for the next pre-order madness? MW's can unite and pool resources to help the fam? If I can score an extra at some point, I'd be glad to help anyone here. Paying it forward and supporting the (proto)culture here is what makes this community cool. Quote
RED WOLF Posted April 8, 2019 Posted April 8, 2019 3 minutes ago, Shizuka the Cat said: Around 4:30 AM Eastern Time That was 3rd party. Do you know when amazon sellers put theirs up? I went to bed sad at 2am lolz. Quote
rdrunner Posted April 8, 2019 Posted April 8, 2019 Just now, RED WOLF said: That was 3rd party. Do you know when amazon sellers put theirs up? I went to bed sad at 2am lolz. I got mine at about 5:30am Eastern. Quote
rdrunner Posted April 8, 2019 Posted April 8, 2019 4 minutes ago, RED WOLF said: That was 3rd party. Do you know when amazon sellers put theirs up? I went to bed sad at 2am lolz. @Valkyrie23 first posted the non-3P Amazon Japan link here at 05:35. When I checked at around 05:41, it was still available, but was gone the next minute. So I think the PO lasted for about 6 to 7 minutes on amazon JP, which is a miracle considering how the other vendors sold out in less than a minute. The bots must have been caught off guard because there were many other amazon scalpers who put up their links there long before Amazon Japan GK went live. Quote
RED WOLF Posted April 8, 2019 Posted April 8, 2019 5 minutes ago, rdrunner said: I got mine at about 5:30am Eastern. Missed it by 30 minutes. Did they sell out within minutes? Quote
rdrunner Posted April 8, 2019 Posted April 8, 2019 1 minute ago, RED WOLF said: Missed it by 30 minutes. Did they sell out within minutes? Yes and after Amazon Japan GK sold out, there was a third party vendor that put his up for 19,440 yen and with an initial shipping charge (overseas allowed) of about 7000 yen, then reduced it to 950 yen. I don't know if anyone had put an order in through him but that would have been a killer of a deal! Quote
RED WOLF Posted April 8, 2019 Posted April 8, 2019 What are the chances in the next few days to weeks that there will be stock on these Japanese sites due to whatever reasons? Is it worth having all the pages up and F5ing it to death just in case? That is what I usually do for US preorders and sites as BBTS, TD, etc. Quote
rdrunner Posted April 8, 2019 Posted April 8, 2019 Just now, RED WOLF said: What are the chances in the next few days to weeks that there will be stock on these Japanese sites due to whatever reasons? Is it worth having all the pages up and F5ing it to death just in case? That is what I usually do for US preorders and sites as BBTS, TD, etc. I would say keep watching the sites for more stock. This happened with the DX VF-1J and the 31E (I think, not 100% sure). Others would probably chime in with their success stories, but I have seen amazon.jp and HLJ do this on a couple of the previous POs, so keep checking, and good luck!! Quote
jenius Posted April 8, 2019 Posted April 8, 2019 I think now we just wait until September and hope more units are available. Quote
RED WOLF Posted April 8, 2019 Posted April 8, 2019 Just now, jenius said: I think now we just wait until September and hope more units are available. PO madness tonight for Yellow armor? Quote
Darth Mingus Posted April 8, 2019 Posted April 8, 2019 8 minutes ago, rdrunner said: When I checked at around 05:41, it was still available, but was gone the next minute. So I think the PO lasted for about 6 to 7 minutes on amazon JP, which is a miracle considering how the other vendors sold out in less than a minute. The bots must have been caught off guard because there were many other amazon scalpers who put up their links there long before Amazon Japan GK went live. This is a big part of the problem. When Amazon swoops in, they buy up all the stock from Bandai, which means less stock for the other, smaller players and this happens to everything that Amazon agrees to carry. With their buying power, HLJ and Amiami can't compete. If Walmart got into this as well, all the small vendors would be screwed. Quote
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