jvmacross Posted October 10, 2022 Author Share Posted October 10, 2022 33 minutes ago, technoblue said: ...okay, I will say this... Hide contents Galadriel finally mentions Celeborn too but it feels like a potential plot device, so I'm going to hold my tongue about what she said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TangledThorns Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 Heh, looks like it was a good thing Netflix lost out though I think HBO could have made a good series still. Netflix and HBO Reportedly Pitched Lord of the Rings TV Shows Alongside Amazon https://www.ign.com/articles/netflix-and-hbo-reportedly-pitched-lord-of-the-rings-tv-shows-alongside-amazon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thom Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 23 hours ago, jvmacross said: That's what I'm thinking. Though I would have liked some mention earlier. I've been fine with this series, but the crux of her drive to fight against Sauron has been put heavily upon her brother's death, with no mention of... Spoiler ...Celeborn, which is almost more notable. But yeah, I'm sure he'll be turning up, just not too soon, I hope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big s Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 Finished the season. Spoiler Glad that most of the harfoot stuff is out of the way. It was mostly a basic episode that leaves room for further stories. Sauron was pretty much as everyone expected, but it felt like he revealed himself a bit quick. Everyone also guessed the meteor man was a wizard. Galadriel still hasn’t been able to open her mouth fully and still talks through her teeth Not the most exciting of shows, but not the worst of the year, but far from the best. I hear they’re cutting the budget on the next season but hoping overall that since the introduction is done, that the next season will be better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dobber Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 I overall enjoyed the show. And look forward to the next season. I hope the budget isn’t cut too much as the visuals and soundtrack are the shows strong points. To loose them would definitely hurt the show unless the story will be smoothed out a bit and the focus narrowed. Spoiler So Halbrand is Sauron and the stranger is a wizard…though still not named but he did give us Gandalf quotes so likely Gandalf. Still would prefer him being a Blue Wizard or even Saroman. Again my main gripe with the show is the condensing of everything plus now the Ring forging doesn’t make sense. They forged the Elvin rings first, though in a way that does more or less follow lore. They should have forged the other 16 first…maybe as a sort of experimentation of Halbrands methods with his actual help and then play it out as shown in the show with him gone but the Elves still forming their rings without him helping but still using his techniques. That would’ve at least stayed reasonably within lore. As it is now I’m guessing he makes the other 16 himself and starts distributing them. 🤷🏻♂️ At any rate, liked the show quite a bit in spite of its flaws and would like to see more. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azrael Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 For a 1st season, it's OK. House of The Dragon is a better fantasy show but my gripe there is that it's moving at a very fast pace for a show that looks to last at least 4 season (unless each season gets progressively shorter). Spoiler I'm hoping the Stranger is not Gandalf. I would rather it not be him. Anyone who influenced Celebrimbor in making the rings would be Sauron since the lore is quite specific on that so as soon as Halbrand started working with Celebrimbor, it was a "yep, that's Sauron"-moment. I would like to see Sauron assume different forms since he was know to be a shapeshifter. But yeah, so far, this show is OK. Not bad but not a top ranking amongst this season of shows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Duke Togo Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 Spoiler The Harfoots and our (Blue?) Wizard friend? Dig it. More of them, please. Frankly, I don’t care much about the rest of what’s going on. Don’t find the human and elf drama or performances very compelling. And I don’t buy the elves just going along with Sauron’s plan once two of them know who he is. Even with their hubris, that’s a bridge too far for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TangledThorns Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 Finished the finale. Decent series, just needs more of the last two episodes to keep it interesting. I will say the Middle Earth: Shadow of Mordow/War games does better in telling old lore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big s Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 Spoiler 37 minutes ago, Duke Togo said: And I don’t buy the elves just going along with Sauron’s plan once two of them know who he is. Spoiler I didn’t really like that either, but after thinking about what was said it kinda makes sense. They know it’s the only way to survive, so just a crown would be susceptible to corruption, just as Sauron planned or at least as they believe he planned. Two objects would only lead to arguments and three rings would allow for arbitration. They may be believing that they are avoiding Sauron’s plan, but don’t realize his plan to create a master ring Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dobber Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 7 hours ago, Big s said: Hide contents Hide contents I didn’t really like that either, but after thinking about what was said it kinda makes sense. They know it’s the only way to survive, so just a crown would be susceptible to corruption, just as Sauron planned or at least as they believe he planned. Two objects would only lead to arguments and three rings would allow for arbitration. They may be believing that they are avoiding Sauron’s plan, but don’t realize his plan to create a master ring Spoiler Plus that is basically what happens in lord anyway. Calabrimbor and Gil Galad never completely trusted Anatar (Sauron in disguise) but still use his techniques to create their Rings without him present unlike the other 16 rings. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
technoblue Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 So the previous episode had me thinking that the pacing and the timeline were starting to feel muddled. This week was completely different. What an enjoyable episode that was. Even with Amazon's creative liberties, I'm looking forward to where the show takes us next season. Spoiler Sauron and the Watcher are finally revealed. I had a hunch we were in for another fake out before seeing who was who and this episode didn't disappoint there. The moments leading up to the Watcher's reveal had me second guessing myself once or twice. As for the rumors of his actual name, I hope the rumors of him being a well-known third-age Istari prove false. Amazon has an opportunity to build up one or both of the blue wizards (Alatar and Pallando) since there isn't much written about them in the lore. As an aside, I really enjoyed all the non-canon hobbit stuff this episode. And the scene where they go up against the 3 witches was well done IMO. Sauron's reveal was more of a give away (as azreal notes) but over the entire season I enjoyed seeing how much went into establishing Halbrand as a non-canon persona. Now that the secret is out, I am excited to see how the rest of Sauron's story is developed in season 2. The confrontation with Galadriel I think gives us a glimpse of Sauron using his power of disguise---when he abruptly has her seeing her brother again in Valinor and then tempts her to be Queen of Middle Earth. I expect we will see more of Sauron's many disguises in season 2 as he regains his strength and will. I am also thinking the big catastrophic event next season might be the destruction of Numenor. After this, the 'faithful' survivors will flee back to Middle Earth and maybe at some point reunite with Isildur? I'm also curious to see what he has been up to. How did he get out of that house? And then there is the matter of the Balrog in the dwarven mines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treatment Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 Think this is tons better than the whole series... and if you don't mind twitter, here's a quite superb analysis of this ROP show's (Sau)Ron: https://twitter.com/Huff4Congress/status/1581240092081127424 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thom Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, treatment said: Think this is tons better than the whole series... and if you don't mind twitter, here's a quite superb analysis of this ROP show's (Sau)Ron: https://twitter.com/Huff4Congress/status/1581240092081127424 That was funny! Doesn't convince me at all that this wasn't Sauron's long-game though. This is just what he wants us to think!🤪 Seriously though, Sauron is literally a supernatural being, on the level of a god, who cannot be killed. All we have seen, other than that one shot of him contemplating the seal of the southlands, for who knows why other than Sauron, is from other's perspectives. Also take whatever he says with a grain of salt. Devil's Advocate though, the writers could have done a better job of it. Edited October 22, 2022 by Thom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Big s Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 6 hours ago, Chunky001 said: You know the show is bad when the Pitch Meeting is bad! I've never seen a Pitch Meeting I didn't like.....until this one. I don't think Ryan could summon any enthusiasm up for this one. I thought it was pretty funny, but mostly because the comments were pretty much on point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thom Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 (edited) Teaser trailer out for Season 2 Edited May 14 by Thom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TangledThorns Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 Cool, just in time before I cancel my PRIME membership this October. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big s Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 More toothy lady. Yuk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mechaninac Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 One wig to shampoo them all and in the night, condition them... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big s Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 3 hours ago, mechaninac said: One wig to shampoo them all and in the night, condition them... Galadriel needs dental work, not shampoo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mechaninac Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 Just now, Big s said: Galadriel needs dental work, not shampoo I'm mocking Halbrand/Sauron's "disguise" flowing dollar-store strands, not Guyladriel's crooked chompers... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big s Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 1 minute ago, mechaninac said: I'm mocking Halbrand/Sauron's "disguise" flowing dollar-store strands, not Guyladriel's crooked chompers... They’re both really silly to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mechaninac Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 2 hours ago, Big s said: They’re both really silly to me This whole vanity project farce of a so-called show is beyond silly -- cringe inducing, actually -- to anyone who holds Tolkien's work in high regard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thom Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 Guess I don't see what is wrong with her teeth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big s Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 10 hours ago, Thom said: Guess I don't see what is wrong with her teeth When sh opens her mouth the teeth always touch her bottom lip because they’re way too long. It affects her speech as well. Almost like a more natural Darth Vader Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thom Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 37 minutes ago, Big s said: When sh opens her mouth the teeth always touch her bottom lip because they’re way too long. It affects her speech as well. Almost like a more natural Darth Vader And this is a problem, apparently. You know, when I smile, my upper teeth almost touch my bottom lip. In fact, when most people smile, their upper teeth almost tough their bottom lip. Considering all else wrong with the series, this seems bottom of the barrel, IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big s Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 43 minutes ago, Thom said: And this is a problem, apparently. You know, when I smile, my upper teeth almost touch my bottom lip. In fact, when most people smile, their upper teeth almost tough their bottom lip. Considering all else wrong with the series, this seems bottom of the barrel, IMO. Yeah, but when she talks her teeth overlap and cause a weird muffling sound that adds to her smugness Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thom Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 8 hours ago, Big s said: Yeah, but when she talks her teeth overlap and cause a weird muffling sound that adds to her smugness I haven't noticed anything like that at all. She speaks fine and looks good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mechaninac Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 11 hours ago, Thom said: ...Considering all else wrong with the series, this seems bottom of the barrel, IMO. Along with "There's a tempest in me", her toothy horse ride, and now Halbrand/Sauron's wig, have become representative memes of just how much there is wrong, and is wrong, with this series. Pointing out her chompers, in truth, isn't actually about her teeth; if the series were good and reverent of Tolkien and the fans, nobody would care. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big s Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 48 minutes ago, mechaninac said: Along with "There's a tempest in me", her toothy horse ride, and now Halbrand/Sauron's wig, have become representative memes of just how much there is wrong, and is wrong, with this series. Pointing out her chompers, in truth, isn't actually about her teeth; if the series were good and reverent of Tolkien and the fans, nobody would care. That’s the tooth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thom Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 1 hour ago, mechaninac said: Along with "There's a tempest in me", her toothy horse ride, and now Halbrand/Sauron's wig, have become representative memes of just how much there is wrong, and is wrong, with this series. Pointing out her chompers, in truth, isn't actually about her teeth; if the series were good and reverent of Tolkien and the fans, nobody would care. 53 minutes ago, Big s said: That’s the tooth No, it's cheap and childish. What you are saying is that brainless memes and have taken the place of intelligently made complaints. Which is a shame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mechaninac Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 19 minutes ago, Thom said: No, it's cheap and childish. What you are saying is that brainless memes and have taken the place of intelligently made complaints. Which is a shame. No amount of cogent criticism will dissuade anyone invested in this train wreck of a show and that's not the intent anyway... people are more than free to enjoy crap, so hilarious mocking memes that speak volumes with a single line or nothing but an image will not only suffice, they will thrive and drive the shills and the sycophants bonkers because they have no relevant comeback or sense of humor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thom Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 51 minutes ago, mechaninac said: No amount of cogent criticism will dissuade anyone invested in this train wreck of a show and that's not the intent anyway... people are more than free to enjoy crap, so hilarious mocking memes that speak volumes with a single line or nothing but an image will not only suffice, they will thrive and drive the shills and the sycophants bonkers because they have no relevant comeback or sense of humor. Well, isn't that a poor critique on todays viewing audience. Don't give cogent criticism, just insulting memes. Again, what a shame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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