Seto Kaiba Posted July 6, 2019 Posted July 6, 2019 Ugh... Harmony Gold is claiming they've secured a renewal of their license agreement with Tatsunoko Production. What a waste.
Cowboy17 Posted July 6, 2019 Posted July 6, 2019 It's official. HG now has the rights for, well, basically forever. 2054. I dont really care anymore, i can buy kits and toys without having to worry about HG and if im honest, i havent enjoyed any macross since Zero. Doesn't affect me. I only wanted to see HG take an L.
azrael Posted July 6, 2019 Posted July 6, 2019 On 7/6/2019 at 1:27 AM, Seto Kaiba said: Ugh... Harmony Gold is claiming they've secured a renewal of their license agreement with Tatsunoko Production. What a waste. Expand Did I not warn you anything can happen? You kids were drumming up the hype when anything could happen between 2018 and 2021 and something did. Let this be a lesson.
Mommar Posted July 6, 2019 Posted July 6, 2019 On 7/6/2019 at 1:55 AM, azrael said: Did I not warn you anything can happen? You kids were drumming up the hype when anything could happen between 2018 and 2021 and something did. Let this be a lesson. Expand The lesson is Tatsunoko always makes the wrong decision. And comes off like HG’s battered wife.
TMBounty_Hunter Posted July 6, 2019 Posted July 6, 2019 Soooooooo is Tatsunoko just doing this out of spite? If it was about money surely it would have been more profitable to cut out the HG middleman
Seto Kaiba Posted July 6, 2019 Posted July 6, 2019 On 7/6/2019 at 2:00 AM, Mommar said: The lesson is Tatsunoko always makes the wrong decision. And comes off like HG’s battered wife. Expand Bingo. This was the stupidest possible move they could've made. Let's hope it comes to naught, as Big West slowly gains ground in the trademark area worldwide. On 7/6/2019 at 1:55 AM, azrael said: Let this be a lesson. Expand For lessons, I think appropriate ones might be that we shouldn't condone Macross fans supporting and promoting Robotech's toy lines, since they helped put the money in HG's pocket to pay for this travesty, and we shouldn't support any future works from the clown college at Tatsunoko either.
azrael Posted July 6, 2019 Posted July 6, 2019 On 7/6/2019 at 2:09 AM, Seto Kaiba said: Bingo. This was the stupidest possible move they could've made. Let's hope it comes to naught, as Big West slowly gains ground in the trademark area worldwide. Expand They're laughing to the bank. They get money for doing pretty much doing nothing.
Cowboy17 Posted July 6, 2019 Posted July 6, 2019 Let's be real - Tatsunoko doesn't care about north american Macross fans - if they did, they'd be doing this themselves. I think they see Macross as a niche western fandom interest, and coupled that with HG's established "development" of this market and the deal with Sony Pictures, they felt like more money could be made this way instead of starting over from square 1 for them. And that's all they care about is the bottom line, as they should. It sucks for fans because the licensee they picked are such ***birds to most of the fans but that's just how it is. Ive never bought any Robotech stuff and don't plan to, as its all substandard garbage up to this point anyways and I'll just keep importing and so should the rest of you. I wouldn't get too mad about this news honestly. I think we've all just had 30 years of hate built up against this company that we wanted to see them lose more than we actually wanted to see "actual" macross stuff with a domestic release.
Cowboy17 Posted July 6, 2019 Posted July 6, 2019 On 7/6/2019 at 2:24 AM, davidwhangchoi said: Rick Hunter forever Expand david pls
Sgt Nate V Posted July 6, 2019 Posted July 6, 2019 On 7/6/2019 at 2:24 AM, davidwhangchoi said: Rick Hunter forever Expand
Alto-23 Posted July 6, 2019 Posted July 6, 2019 Honestly this signs the death for macross in the west. Hopefully they just take the license and go full macross instead
davidwhangchoi Posted July 6, 2019 Posted July 6, 2019 On 7/6/2019 at 2:24 AM, Cowboy17 said: david pls Expand Enron, get used to it, then i'll be watching Harmony Gold Flashback 2054
Einherjar Posted July 6, 2019 Posted July 6, 2019 Since when did people take anything from these PowerPoint presentations seriously? Are these not the same people so said for years that Shadow Rising was in the works and that they were shopping around for a streaming service to salvage Robotech Academy?
treatment Posted July 6, 2019 Posted July 6, 2019 This just means they can continue making and publishing those, uhmm, Robotech comics by titan comics or something. The art on those comics are definitively, uhh, "really special", ya know...
seti88 Posted July 6, 2019 Posted July 6, 2019 Is this real or just a rouse because it’s an AX event and they had to say something..
kajnrig Posted July 6, 2019 Posted July 6, 2019 (edited) https://www.denofgeek.com/us/tv/robotech/282027/the-robotechmacross-license-has-been-extended-exclusive Some more context for y'all. Not for those who despise any amount of Robotech/HG boot-licking. This part interests me the most: Quote But what about the Macross sequels? For many many years fans haven’t been able to legally obtain various sequel series to the original Macross outside of Japan. It’s been a huge point of contention, with many people pointing the finger at Harmony Gold. Does this renewal change anything about that? Right now it appears nothing has changed. In 2017 the upholding of the license agreement made it clear Big West still owns those 41 characters designs and Tatsunoko owns the commercial rights to the Macross series. The way the Macross rights pie is divided up will make it difficult to work out who has the rights to various aspects of the IP outside of Japan. While Harmony Gold won't comment on any Macross sequels at this time, Tommy Yune does generally say that, "if we can have more Macross and more Robotech everywhere and just let the fans go after what they enjoy we think that would be a wonderful thing.” Expand Edited July 6, 2019 by kajnrig
Cowboy17 Posted July 6, 2019 Posted July 6, 2019 (edited) ....as long as they get their cut you mean. They are still going to aggressively block anything even with a whiff of macross in it to protect their rights that tatsunoko granted them. Edited July 6, 2019 by Cowboy17
Einherjar Posted July 6, 2019 Posted July 6, 2019 Sounds like excuses for more lazy attempts at mecha designs and doppelgänger characters with questionable dental hygiene given corny lines that you would not be able to get away with saying on TV.
Keith Posted July 6, 2019 Posted July 6, 2019 On 7/6/2019 at 2:20 AM, Cowboy17 said: Let's be real - Tatsunoko doesn't care about north american Macross fans - if they did, they'd be doing this themselves. I think they see Macross as a niche western fandom interest, and coupled that with HG's established "development" of this market and the deal with Sony Pictures, they felt like more money could be made this way instead of starting over from square 1 for them. And that's all they care about is the bottom line, as they should. It sucks for fans because the licensee they picked are such ***birds to most of the fans but that's just how it is. Ive never bought any Robotech stuff and don't plan to, as its all substandard garbage up to this point anyways and I'll just keep importing and so should the rest of you. I wouldn't get too mad about this news honestly. I think we've all just had 30 years of hate built up against this company that we wanted to see them lose more than we actually wanted to see "actual" macross stuff with a domestic release. Expand No, I wanted them to both lose & get someone to start a decent domestic release.
azrael Posted July 6, 2019 Posted July 6, 2019 On 7/6/2019 at 2:20 AM, Cowboy17 said: Let's be real - Tatsunoko doesn't care about north american Macross fans - if they did, they'd be doing this themselves. I think they see Macross as a niche western fandom interest, and coupled that with HG's established "development" of this market and the deal with Sony Pictures, they felt like more money could be made this way instead of starting over from square 1 for them. And that's all they care about is the bottom line, as they should. It sucks for fans because the licensee they picked are such ***birds to most of the fans but that's just how it is. Ive never bought any Robotech stuff and don't plan to, as its all substandard garbage up to this point anyways and I'll just keep importing and so should the rest of you. I wouldn't get too mad about this news honestly. I think we've all just had 30 years of hate built up against this company that we wanted to see them lose more than we actually wanted to see "actual" macross stuff with a domestic release. Expand So now that nothing will change within Kawamori's or hell, even my lifetime.
Roy Focker Posted July 6, 2019 Posted July 6, 2019 On 7/6/2019 at 1:51 AM, JB0 said: Uuuugh. WHY, Tatsunoko? Expand Why? Because money. On the rare chance they make that live action movie Tatsunoko will get their cut. Also maybe Tatsunoko doesn't care. It costs money to keep a property in the public eye. If HG wants to invest money in a dead horse that's okay with Tatsunoko. Better HG dime than theirs.
kajnrig Posted July 6, 2019 Posted July 6, 2019 You know what? I really, really love this Macross thing. No other entertainment property has taken me on quite so many emotional roller coasters with so many highs and lows over the course of not just two hours, or 20 episodes, or seasons or series, but an entire lifetime as Macross. YA-HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
davidwhangchoi Posted July 6, 2019 Posted July 6, 2019 so, is Harmony Gold going to release DYRL with subs?
TehPW Posted July 6, 2019 Posted July 6, 2019 (edited) On 7/6/2019 at 1:27 AM, Seto Kaiba said: Ugh... Harmony Gold is claiming they've secured a renewal of their license agreement with Tatsunoko Production. What a waste. Expand I can also claim to have a pair of 40GG breasts... but a claim is hyperbole until the ink dries on the paper. Please provide a credible link, less we collectively think someone else was sitting in your chair typing bovine excrement... Is there any mention of this in Japanese Print or Digital Media? Edited July 6, 2019 by TehPW Chose my words... carefully.
Knight26 Posted July 6, 2019 Posted July 6, 2019 Just how big is Tatsunoko? What is to prevent say, Bandai, from just buying them outright? I realize Big West and Studio Nue are not big enough. Also, what could HG really do if Bandai Visual, just said "to hell with it" and started releasing Macross sequels outside of Japan? It sounds like the language in the contract regarding the sequels is vague to say the least.
Knight26 Posted July 6, 2019 Posted July 6, 2019 On 7/6/2019 at 3:21 AM, TehPW said: I can also claim to have a pair of 40GG breasts... but a claim is hyperbole until the ink dries on the paper. Please provide a link, less we collectively think someone else was sitting in your chair typing bovine excrement... Expand Exactly, until the signed contract is able to be examined, I have my doubts.
Sgt Nate V Posted July 6, 2019 Posted July 6, 2019 (edited) On 7/6/2019 at 3:21 AM, Knight26 said: Just how big is Tatsunoko? What is to prevent say, Bandai, from just buying them outright? Expand The fact that TakaraTomy owns part of them? Edited July 6, 2019 by Sgt Nate V
Seto Kaiba Posted July 6, 2019 Posted July 6, 2019 On 7/6/2019 at 3:21 AM, TehPW said: I can also claim to have a pair of 40GG breasts... but a claim is hyperbole until the ink dries on the paper. Please provide a credible link, less we collectively think someone else was sitting in your chair typing bovine excrement... Is there any mention of this in Japanese Print or Digital Media? Expand https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2019-07-05/harmony-gold-renews-license-to-1st-macross-southern-cross-mospeada-anime-series/.148700 It was the subject of their AnimeExpo panel, apparently.
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