Bolt Posted November 3 Posted November 3 2 hours ago, Thom said: Can they call it a 'fast pack' if there are no Fast Packs? I guess they won't call it YF-19 w accoutrements.. Quote
kajnrig Posted November 3 Posted November 3 IIRC in-lore its radical new engines provided so much thrust that supplementary boosters were deemed unnecessary, so its Fast Pack was designed around augmenting its existing systems (more missiles/fuel/verniers) and being able to be used in-atmosphere unlike prior/future Supers. Of course, the VF-19 just five years later would get huge honking booster Fast Packs, and Isamu's retrofitted VF-19 also got those -25 Super boosters jury-rigged onto it... Meh. I like it better this way anyway. Quote
Big s Posted November 3 Posted November 3 2 hours ago, kajnrig said: IIRC in-lore its radical new engines provided so much thrust that supplementary boosters were deemed unnecessary, so its Fast Pack was designed around augmenting its existing systems (more missiles/fuel/verniers) and being able to be used in-atmosphere unlike prior/future Supers. Of course, the VF-19 just five years later would get huge honking booster Fast Packs, and Isamu's retrofitted VF-19 also got those -25 Super boosters jury-rigged onto it... Meh. I like it better this way anyway. Slightly fast packs just doesn’t have the same ring I guess Quote
Thom Posted November 3 Posted November 3 16 hours ago, Bolt said: I guess they won't call it YF-19 w accoutrements.. Maybe they should just call them Fat Packs then. Quote
VF-1A Grunt Posted November 5 Posted November 5 On 11/3/2024 at 11:56 PM, SpacePirateNeko said: oh lord just release a new valk in 1/48 Broken record here: I still keep hoping Hasegawa will release a 1/48 VF-1D fighter some day… Quote
KOG Water Dragon Posted November 5 Author Posted November 5 2 hours ago, VF-1A Grunt said: Broken record here: I still keep hoping Hasegawa will release a 1/48 VF-1D fighter some day… Yes. And a 1/72 VF-1D battroid. They have a 1/72 fighter and even gerwalk, but no battroid. Quote
Big s Posted November 5 Posted November 5 1 hour ago, KOG Water Dragon said: Yes. And a 1/72 VF-1D battroid. They have a 1/72 fighter and even gerwalk, but no battroid. They’ll probably wait a while on that one. Plamax just recently made theirs and they seem to be staying away from specific types crossing over immediately. Sorta like how hasegawa put out a battroid Max 1s for the movie and plamax has the tv 1s for Roy or that Hasegawa put out a battroid YF-19 from plus and plamax did a VF-19 battroid from 7. I don’t know if this is a permanent thing or just that they’re giving eachother temporary breathing room before they do their own versions of things. Quote
505thAirborne Posted November 5 Posted November 5 4 hours ago, VF-1A Grunt said: Broken record here: I still keep hoping Hasegawa will release a 1/48 VF-1D fighter some day… This should be a no-brainer. Quote
KOG Water Dragon Posted November 5 Author Posted November 5 33 minutes ago, Big s said: They’ll probably wait a while on that one. Plamax just recently made theirs and they seem to be staying away from specific types crossing over immediately. Sorta like how hasegawa put out a battroid Max 1s for the movie and plamax has the tv 1s for Roy or that Hasegawa put out a battroid YF-19 from plus and plamax did a VF-19 battroid from 7. I don’t know if this is a permanent thing or just that they’re giving eachother temporary breathing room before they do their own versions of things. Sure but.... Hasegawa has had a lotta years in which they could have done a VF-1D battroid. I wish they'd milk the battroids like they milk the fighters... Quote
Big s Posted November 5 Posted November 5 4 hours ago, KOG Water Dragon said: Sure but.... Hasegawa has had a lotta years in which they could have done a VF-1D battroid. I wish they'd milk the battroids like they milk the fighters... They’ve had a lotta years to do a lot of things, I’m just glad that now they got really into things and have done something different like all the regults and the Queadluun Rau movie kits. Quote
Chronocidal Posted November 6 Posted November 6 On 11/2/2024 at 10:49 PM, Big s said: Slightly fast packs just doesn’t have the same ring I guess Late reply, but for the record, the F-15's FAST packs don't make it any faster either. It's an acronym: Fuel And Sensor Tactical Packs. In the case of valkyries, that S might stand for "stores" (meaning weapons) or "systems" since they obviously carried both of those as well. Anyhow, I'm still just frustrated that Hasegawa seems completely uninterested in making a 1/48 YF-21 to go with all of the YF-19 variants they have. Beyond that, I want to see them actually make VF-19s (aside from Isamu's). I'd seriously love some actual production versions. The Master File was full of them, and it's a beautiful plane, no matter what arrangement of wings and canards it uses. Quote
kajnrig Posted November 6 Posted November 6 24 minutes ago, Chronocidal said: Beyond that, I want to see them actually make VF-19s (aside from Isamu's). I'd seriously love some actual production versions. The Master File was full of them, and it's a beautiful plane, no matter what arrangement of wings and canards it uses. Now you mention it, I wonder what the M7 VF-19s could potentially look like in a more "realistic" style, with their bulbous shapes pared back to more closely resemble the YF-19/VF-19A they're ostensibly built on. Quote
SpacePirateNeko Posted November 6 Posted November 6 On 11/5/2024 at 9:26 PM, VF-1A Grunt said: Broken record here: I still keep hoping Hasegawa will release a 1/48 VF-1D fighter some day… I mean i think its great they are finally making more new things....but how they havnt done a 21/22 yet as its the companion in the film...i just dont get. Or at the least if you are doing only the "main" valk from each series in that scale....go beyond plus Quote
Thom Posted November 6 Posted November 6 10 hours ago, Chronocidal said: Late reply, but for the record, the F-15's FAST packs don't make it any faster either. It's an acronym: Fuel And Sensor Tactical Packs. In the case of valkyries, that S might stand for "stores" (meaning weapons) or "systems" since they obviously carried both of those as well. Anyhow, I'm still just frustrated that Hasegawa seems completely uninterested in making a 1/48 YF-21 to go with all of the YF-19 variants they have. Beyond that, I want to see them actually make VF-19s (aside from Isamu's). I'd seriously love some actual production versions. The Master File was full of them, and it's a beautiful plane, no matter what arrangement of wings and canards it uses. Thank you, I was unaware of that. The FAST packs always had those bit boosters on them, so them and fast just went together like peanut butter and jelly. Quote
Bolt Posted November 6 Posted November 6 (edited) 10 hours ago, Chronocidal said: Beyond that, I want to see them actually make VF-19s (aside from Isamu's). They at least did the SVF-569 Lightings and the SVF-440 Dullahans. The SVF-569 even in 1/48 .. The Yf-19 Demonstrator doesn't count , i know.. Edited November 6 by Bolt Quote
Chronocidal Posted November 6 Posted November 6 13 hours ago, kajnrig said: Now you mention it, I wonder what the M7 VF-19s could potentially look like in a more "realistic" style, with their bulbous shapes pared back to more closely resemble the YF-19/VF-19A they're ostensibly built on. In short? Freaking awesome. There was a reason I really wanted Yamato to make some more versions of their VF-19 molds after they finished the canon M7 paints, but alas, it was not to be. I would love to see Hasegawa just make any style of the production variant, maybe with optional wings and canards. Quote
KOG Water Dragon Posted November 6 Author Posted November 6 4 hours ago, SpacePirateNeko said: I mean i think its great they are finally making more new things....but how they havnt done a 21/22 yet as its the companion in the film...i just dont get. Or at the least if you are doing only the "main" valk from each series in that scale....go beyond plus I'd love a 1/48 VF-0, VF-25, or VF-31 series. All can be milked for variants. Quote
VF-1A Grunt Posted Friday at 01:45 AM Posted Friday at 01:45 AM On 11/6/2024 at 9:51 AM, Bolt said: They at least did the SVF-569 Lightings and the SVF-440 Dullahans. The SVF-569 even in 1/48 .. Sorry, I don’t know much about the YF/VF-19 series. Are there any differences in the VF models themselves (i.e. different parts), versus the YF, or it is just squadron paint schemes on the same YF model? Quote
kajnrig Posted Friday at 03:11 AM Posted Friday at 03:11 AM The latter, plus missiles in one and missiles and Super parts in the other. At 1/48 I think it's just the paint scheme. Quote
Chronocidal Posted Friday at 04:23 AM Posted Friday at 04:23 AM Yeah, Hasegawa has only produced one type of YF/VF-19 airframe. Modelers have customized both the 1/72 and 1/48 molds in a crazy number of ways to make all of the custom versions you see, like the Nothung or other derivatives, including a lot of customs to make the other VF-19 versions. I'd really like to see official kit versions of some of those other types though, especially the VF-19EF Caliburn SMS mod. Quote
PointBlankSniper Posted Friday at 09:50 AM Posted Friday at 09:50 AM 7 hours ago, VF-1A Grunt said: Sorry, I don’t know much about the YF/VF-19 series. Are there any differences in the VF models themselves (i.e. different parts), versus the YF, or it is just squadron paint schemes on the same YF model? The YF has canards, engine top stabilizers, engine bottom fins, variable wings that sweep forward or tuck backwards all the way to being longitudinal against the engine, and the area above the intake gets a corner that closely tapers back to the fuselage. The outer calf stores a single missle. The basic VF-19A is this in different paint. For the purpose of this topic, it's basically not the VF everyone is refering to. The VF-19E/F Advanced from frontier is just a clone of this with a new canopy and VF-25's super part's booster. The VF everyone speaks of are all the other suffix models. It has no canards, stabilizers are mounted on a panel that wraps down the side of the engine and reaches to where the fin itself sits on top of the wing, no engine bottom fins, "fixed" wings (still hinged for transformation) that comes out backwards partway before angling into built in forward sweep, and additional has ankle guards. The outer calf stores a set of micro missiles. The area above the intake stretches all the way behind the canopy and follows the edge of the wing root without transitioning into any sharp angles. All the squadron paints are done on this. The limbs and shields between the two are basically all different as well. The general difference in those parts is that the YF is more blocky and trapezoidal while the VF is rounded and bulbous. Essentially, the two only share the front half of the fuselage, which is basically the core torso, and. I think gunpod. Maybe the thruster nozzle/feet, I'm not sure. The Kai/Basara Custom/Fire Valkyrie is kind of a frankenstein between the two. It's the VF as the base, but it has the canards. The wings are variable, but I don't think it's actually the same geometry as the YF. It has VF style stabilizer sitting over it. It also has a custom gunpod, for those speaker things Basara shoots. The Nothung is that heavily altered blue one above. I think its some hobby magazine custom build for some side story stuff. Quote
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