What will Hasegawa do next?

[Papa Rat]

3 hours ago, Thom said:

Mine showed up today, and dang are those pieces big!

Awesome! It’s a big boi that’s for sure. Going to be a lot of fun. 

[captain america]

On 4/12/2025 at 10:09 AM, tekering said:

That AI-generated translation is gloriously epic FAIL. 🤪

The whole kit is a disappointment, to be honest. They weren't faithful to the source material in terms of details or proportions, and the whole mech is still too small, especially compared to the Regult. I've seen some modelers try to shoehorn a pilot into the cockpit, but it just makes the thing look worse.

[Shawn]

Thanks for posting the assembly video, it looks like a fun build. I'm amazed no glue for something that large.
I understand some of the dimensions aren't ideal holding to the line art, but I still like it a lot, just as there are many variations on every release of the basic VF-1.

I can't wait for the Nousjadeaul-Ger which HAS to be coming up next-in DYRL style to match the Quead.

[Big s]

1 minute ago, Shawn said:

I can't wait for the Nousjadeaul-Ger which HAS to be coming up next-in DYRL style to match the Quead.

It showed up on the box art for the Max and basic Queadluun Rau kits, so I’m really hoping for it. It’s one thing to tease it once, but multiple times should mean something 

[DeltaE27]

Eh, maybe this is controversial but as long as the Glaug is about 9 inches tall I’m fine with that. The 16.5 meter height I see consistently listed would land it about there if the scale is right. That’ll keep it looking decent next to the other models and let it menacingly pinwheel its arms at them

 

 

If it’s hard to fit a Zentradi pilot in there, that seems more a conflict with existing world building than it is a fault of the modeler. Besides, maybe the Zentradi aren’t big on comfortable seating 😅

If the model isn’t about 9 inches all bets are off though. I’ll have one in hand soon enough to be able to tell!

[DeltaE27]

44 minutes ago, Shawn said:

I can't wait for the Nousjadeaul-Ger which HAS to be coming up next-in DYRL style to match the Quead.

Please! I’d love a Nousjadeaul-Ger at 1/72. 
 

Not like that 1/144 sitting in my backlog. It was definitely false advertising that made me buy that, and not me forgetting what scale my other kits were…

[Big s]

22 minutes ago, DeltaE27 said:

Please! I’d love a Nousjadeaul-Ger at 1/72. 
 

Not like that 1/144 sitting in my backlog. It was definitely false advertising that made me buy that, and not me forgetting what scale my other kits were…

You could use the little one with those new 1/144 kits coming from fujimi or the older tomytec ones

[tekering]

3 hours ago, captain america said:

the whole mech is still too small, especially compared to the Regult

Absurdly small.  Hasegawa's "1:72" Glaug is barely any bigger than Bandai's Hi-Metal R toy... and considerably smaller than the vintage 1:72 kit.

1 hour ago, DeltaE27 said:

The 16.5 meter height I see consistently listed would land it about there if the scale is right.

There's nothing right about that consistently-listed 16.5 meter height. 🤣

1 hour ago, DeltaE27 said:

Maybe Hasegawa based their scaling and proportions on this animation reference. 🙄

[Big s]

2 hours ago, DeltaE27 said:

Eh, maybe this is controversial but as long as the Glaug is about 9 inches tall I’m fine with that. The 16.5 meter height I see consistently listed would land it about there if the scale is right. That’ll keep it looking decent next to the other models and let it menacingly pinwheel its arms at them

 

 

If it’s hard to fit a Zentradi pilot in there, that seems more a conflict with existing world building than it is a fault of the modeler. Besides, maybe the Zentradi aren’t big on comfortable seating 😅

If the model isn’t about 9 inches all bets are off though. I’ll have one in hand soon enough to be able to tell!

Seems to be about the height of the regult kit from hasegawa. 

[DeltaE27]

2 hours ago, tekering said:

 

There's nothing right about that consistently-listed 16.5 meter height. 🤣

Maybe Hasegawa based their scaling and proportions on this animation reference. 🙄

Hey, if that’s what official sources list, it makes sense to me that licensed products would stick to it. I’m very curious where that figure came from though, and if it *is* official. I’d definitely love to learn more. There’s this Studio Nue lineart where it seems to be closer to 19 meters. (see the right side, rough sizes there).
 

the ARII box lists it at 18.1 meters, which is closer to 19. So I’m very curious where that 16 meter figure comes from. Or that 18 meter figure  

Setting aside pure numbers, though, the glaug and regult at least seem fairly accurate *proportionally* to each other. Screen taken from a video posted earlier in the thread. 

with perhaps a bit of wiggle room for how bent any legs are, the position of weaponry, etc. 

chalk it up as another mystery about Macross scale, I guess?

Edited Thursday at 07:38 PM by DeltaE27

[Bolt]

4 hours ago, DeltaE27 said:

chalk it up as another mystery about Macross scale, I guess?

A never ending topic..

I'll be getting the Hasegawa version as well. But it will ultimately push me to build my Moscato version first, as my heavy missile Regult is also a Moscato ,and i still need to build my Moscato scout Regult too.

I think @captain america needs to release the DYRL  Nousjadeaul-Ger in 1/72 before Hasegawa does, so he can take my money! 

[tekering]

8 hours ago, DeltaE27 said:

There’s this Studio Nue lineart where it seems to be closer to 19 meters. (see the right side, rough sizes there).

Yeah, but that line art was produced six months before the series began airing, and designs hadn't even been finalized at that point -- note the funky gunpod that Valkyrie is holding, for example -- and we all know how much the subsequent animation contradicts it.  Hell, the narrative itself contradicts it, since Max's Valkyrie wears a Zentraedi uniform as a disguise at one point. 

In the series, Zentraedi soldiers are consistently depicted as the same height as the Battroid Valkyrie, and the Battroid passes through Zentraedi doorways with ease.

They aren't tall doorways, either! 😅

Thus, if Zentraedi soldiers are as tall as Battroids (and Quamzin is one of the taller commanders), the Glaug cockpit should be large enough to fit a Valkyrie.

Clearly, that scale chart was eventually abandoned entirely by the production... and yet, it's still referenced in official stats, that unfortunately determine merchandising scales. 😒

If only the Hasegawa or Bandai staff would take the time to actually watch the show... 🙄

3 hours ago, Bolt said:

A never ending topic..

As long as the merchandisers continue to accept published stats, instead of doing their own research, the problem persists. 😐

[Big s]

8 hours ago, DeltaE27 said:

with perhaps a bit of wiggle room for how bent any legs are, the position of weaponry, etc.

I’ve always been curious if the heights on the backward leg mecha is listed with them somewhat bent or if it’s supposed to be with them fully extended. The pictures of the heights usually show the pods and monster with bent legs

 

2 minutes ago, tekering said:

Yeah, but that line art was produced six months before the series began airing, and designs hadn't even been finalized at that point -- note the funky gunpod that Valkyrie is holding, for example -- and we all know how much the subsequent animation contradicts it.  Hell, the narrative itself contradicts it, since Max's Valkyrie wears a Zentraedi uniform as a disguise at one point. 

In the series, Zentraedi soldiers are consistently depicted as the same height as the Battroid Valkyrie, and the Battroid passes through Zentraedi doorways with ease.

They aren't tall doorways, either! 😅

Thus, if Zentraedi soldiers are as tall as Battroids (and Quamzin is one of the taller commanders), the Glaug cockpit should be large enough to fit a Valkyrie.

Clearly, that scale chart was eventually abandoned entirely by the production... and yet, it's still referenced in official stats, that unfortunately determine merchandising scales. 😒

If only the Hasegawa or Bandai staff would take the time to actually watch the show... 🙄

As long as the merchandisers continue to accept published stats, instead of doing their own research, the problem persists. 😐

Oddly most of the time in the show, the zentraedi mecha aren’t much taller than a Valkyriein battroid mode, while the pilots appear more or less the same height as a Valkyrie in battroid mode. The animation is all over the place with scale and I think hasegawa chose to do them closer to how they appear in the show. Personally I would love to see a 1/72 pilot that’s about the same height as a battroid and the mecha reflect that size. But at least these don’t look too far from that to the 1/100 kits.

As far as the movie when Kamjin gets out of his armor to squish Roy, he actually appears to be about the height shown on the scale charts. The Regults on the side walls appear rather large. But then Mirya appears extraordinarily massive after max defeats her. So even the movie is a bit odd.

[tekering]

2 hours ago, Big s said:

I would love to see a 1/72 pilot that’s about the same height as a battroid and the mecha reflect that size.

Oh, I can oblige you there. ☺️

[Big s]

1 minute ago, tekering said:

Oh, I can oblige you there. ☺️

Is that the Tomytec? Looks sized about right for the pilot finally 

[DeltaE27]

I’d say calling the animation consistent is a slight stretch. We see Vrlitwhai wrestling with that same model of Valkyrie, and he’s supposedly bigger than your average boy, er, Zentradi. But he looks to be about the same size as the Valkyrie. Heck, unless Vrlitwhai is the same size as that Zentradi guard, how is he supposed to get through that door?

And yeah, we see valkyries depicted around the same size as the machines they’re fighting all the time too (ie, Max vs Milia for a few split seconds when they’re on screen together, and the seating room inside a Q-Rau is well documented). 
 

So yeah, I fully agree that scale chart isn’t used when animations were being made. But the result isn’t something that’s *more* consistent, it’s something that’s *less* consistent. Whoever a Valkyrie is fighting always seems to be about the same size as it (see, silly glaug melee attack animation for a low-quality example. I also found a screenshot of Valkyrie vs Regult where they’re about the same size). Vrlitwhai is equivalent to a Valkyrie is equivalent to a standard zentradi is equivalent, on a bad animation day, to a Glaug. 
 

frankly I think the more likely explanation is it’s just easier to animate scenes where everything is roughly the same size…

So if I’m a model company, and I have a license for production of a design, my two options are

1. to comb through the original anime and the reference material I have been given and decide based on contradictory information which size I’d like to go with. Perhaps this is based on being able to fit a zentradi in the cockpit, but even the zentradi aren’t consistently sized. It also means using a lot more plastic to scale everything up.

2. Using official figures that I’ve already used in the past (and for all we know may have been provided by the license holders?) to size the design, and as long as I never make a model of the pilot I’m fine. 

Personally, I find the discussion of scale fascinating but I think accusing the company of not doing their homework by sticking to official sources for their licensed product is a bit… unfair?

But I also imagine this might be too much of a tangent for a thread about hasegawa kits, so…my apologies!

[kajnrig]

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[Papa Rat]

20 minutes ago, kajnrig said:

I don't know if this deserves its own thread but HLJ sent this out in response to the US tariffs. Would a thread that collects the various stores' responses be warranted?

tl;dr - As of April 20, 11pm EST, only EMS will be available for shipping to the US.

 

 

And from a few days earlier (goes without saying, but the coupon code is expired):

 

I was just going to post this too. Just got notice.

[sh9000]

https://www.macrossworld.com/mwf/topic/49497-general-discussion-of-stores-store-policies-and-practices-shipping-and-handling-and-types-of-packaging/page/6/#comments

I posted here.

[Papa Rat]

4 minutes ago, sh9000 said:

https://www.macrossworld.com/mwf/topic/49497-general-discussion-of-stores-store-policies-and-practices-shipping-and-handling-and-types-of-packaging/page/6/#comments

I posted here.

Thanks

[Big s]

4 hours ago, DeltaE27 said:

I’d say calling the animation consistent is a slight stretch. We see Vrlitwhai wrestling with that same model of Valkyrie, and he’s supposedly bigger than your average boy, er, Zentradi. But he looks to be about the same size as the Valkyrie. Heck, unless Vrlitwhai is the same size as that Zentradi guard, how is he supposed to get through that door?

And yeah, we see valkyries depicted around the same size as the machines they’re fighting all the time too (ie, Max vs Milia for a few split seconds when they’re on screen together, and the seating room inside a Q-Rau is well documented). 
 

So yeah, I fully agree that scale chart isn’t used when animations were being made. But the result isn’t something that’s *more* consistent, it’s something that’s *less* consistent. Whoever a Valkyrie is fighting always seems to be about the same size as it (see, silly glaug melee attack animation for a low-quality example. I also found a screenshot of Valkyrie vs Regult where they’re about the same size). Vrlitwhai is equivalent to a Valkyrie is equivalent to a standard zentradi is equivalent, on a bad animation day, to a Glaug. 
 

frankly I think the more likely explanation is it’s just easier to animate scenes where everything is roughly the same size…

So if I’m a model company, and I have a license for production of a design, my two options are

1. to comb through the original anime and the reference material I have been given and decide based on contradictory information which size I’d like to go with. Perhaps this is based on being able to fit a zentradi in the cockpit, but even the zentradi aren’t consistently sized. It also means using a lot more plastic to scale everything up.

2. Using official figures that I’ve already used in the past (and for all we know may have been provided by the license holders?) to size the design, and as long as I never make a model of the pilot I’m fine. 

Personally, I find the discussion of scale fascinating but I think accusing the company of not doing their homework by sticking to official sources for their licensed product is a bit… unfair?

But I also imagine this might be too much of a tangent for a thread about hasegawa kits, so…my apologies!

I completely agree here. Everything is inconsistent and the producers of kits and toys have to make a tough decision on size for scale. I think for those making a garage kit, they can choose their preference as well. It was the rubber robot generation. If Macross was consistent, then I’d feel like siding one way or another, but I’m happy to get some great products coming out from multiple companies in recent days. Actually I’m more excited for the franchise now than I had been for a few decades. 

[tekering]

3 hours ago, DeltaE27 said:

I’d say calling the animation consistent is a slight stretch.

It depends on what studio animated the episode in question.  Some episodes are reliably consistent, some are inconsistent, and some (as you rightfully point out) are laughably bad. 

3 hours ago, DeltaE27 said:

I find the discussion of scale fascinating but I think accusing the company of not doing their homework by sticking to official sources for their licensed product is a bit… unfair?

Unfair and unrealistic, to be sure... particularly concerning the most problematic Glaug.  😅

13 minutes ago, Big s said:

I’m more excited for the franchise now than I had been for a few decades. 

The last few years been a golden age for both Macross and Mospeada fans, really. 

[Big s]

25 minutes ago, tekering said:

The last few years been a golden age for both Macross and Mospeada fans, really. 

Oh definitely. I’m kinda excited to see what moderoid is about to do for Mospeada, maybe something other than just the good guys 

[Papa Rat]

22 minutes ago, Big s said:

Oh definitely. I’m kinda excited to see what moderoid is about to do for Mospeada, maybe something other than just the good guys 

 I know this is a Hasegawa thread, but do you know if the Moderoid kits would do transformation?

[Big s]

5 hours ago, Papa Rat said:

 I know this is a Hasegawa thread, but do you know if the Moderoid kits would do transformation?

I think it’s partsforming. We have a Moderoid and Mospeada thread that shows the prototype 

[Papa Rat]

32 minutes ago, Big s said:

I think it’s partsforming. We have a Moderoid and Mospeada thread that shows the prototype 

Thanks. I’ll search for it. 

[KOG Water Dragon]

8 hours ago, Big s said:

Oh definitely. I’m kinda excited to see what moderoid is about to do for Mospeada, maybe something other than just the good guys 

Has anyone EVER released a Tread kit? I want one.

[Shawn]

Just resin kits for the Tread.
Imai did a prototype but they had financial issues and it was never released-see the Mospead thread and search for "Imai"

[Big s]

5 hours ago, KOG Water Dragon said:

Has anyone EVER released a Tread kit? I want one.

Keep checking either the Mospeada pages or the moderoid ones. If anyone is gonna do it, it will probably be moderoid or the standard max factory plamax kits. Either way news gets posted over in the Mospeada section regularly