Big s Posted July 3 Posted July 3 1 hour ago, Raikkonen said: Aren't the guns way under-scaled here? (I know Hase makes fighter mode priority over the other mode's details, but these look like small daggers than the actual guns.) They are mostly covered by the armor underneath, but I’m probably just used to toys and Bandai’s model since they do look smallish. They rarely get shown in the anime and pictures are fairly scarce for the rifles Quote
Raikkonen Posted July 3 Posted July 3 (edited) 51 minutes ago, Big s said: They are mostly covered by the armor underneath, but I’m probably just used to toys and Bandai’s model since they do look smallish. They rarely get shown in the anime and pictures are fairly scarce for the rifles Found this in my Master file. Hase did make them a bit too much on the thin and didn't centre them down the intake. Edited July 3 by Raikkonen Quote
Urashiman Posted July 3 Posted July 3 Well - the original HASE YF-21 has two gunpods with it already. You could just use them and saw off the fast pack holes and use the original pods. Quote
pengbuzz Posted July 3 Posted July 3 3 hours ago, Urashiman said: Well - the original HASE YF-21 has two gunpods with it already. You could just use them and saw off the fast pack holes and use the original pods. *makes notes for archive* Quote
Big s Posted July 3 Posted July 3 11 hours ago, Raikkonen said: Found this in my Master file. Hase did make them a bit too much on the thin and didn't centre them down the intake. I have a feeling that they went more by the animation line art for once and in these pictures the fastpacks cover the rifles so much that they look about like the kit. They even have a similar placement to the kit. I’d personally prefer them a bit bigger though Quote
Big s Posted July 4 Posted July 4 45 minutes ago, Bolt said: They do look quite a bit more diminished there. I think it’s because they’re sunken into that armor plating Quote
kajnrig Posted July 4 Posted July 4 And also, one more time, repeat it with me class: Master File isn't canon. I mean I know, shut up about canon we're just looking at art for reference, but just sayin'. Quote
pengbuzz Posted July 4 Posted July 4 2 minutes ago, kajnrig said: And also, one more time, repeat it with me class: Master File isn't canon. I mean I know, shut up about canon we're just looking at art for reference, but just sayin'. Master File isn't canon. Master File isn't canon. Master File isn't canon. Master File isn't canon. Master File isn't canon. Master File isn't canon. Master File isn't canon. Master File isn't canon. Master File isn't canon. Master Card can be used to buy a canon. Master Shake should be shot out of a canon. Master Chief carries a canon. Master Mold makes sentinels that use built-in canons. Master File isn't canon. Master Miyagi could use his bare hands to break a canon. Quote
Raikkonen Posted July 4 Posted July 4 12 hours ago, Big s said: I have a feeling that they went more by the animation line art for once and in these pictures the fastpacks cover the rifles so much that they look about like the kit. They even have a similar placement to the kit. I’d personally prefer them a bit bigger though Good catch. You very right here. Quote
Raikkonen Posted July 4 Posted July 4 6 hours ago, kajnrig said: And also, one more time, repeat it with me class: Master File isn't canon. I mean I know, shut up about canon we're just looking at art for reference, but just sayin'. 6 hours ago, pengbuzz said: Master File isn't canon. Master File isn't canon. Master File isn't canon. Master File isn't canon. Master File isn't canon. Master File isn't canon. Master File isn't canon. Master File isn't canon. Master File isn't canon. Master Card can be used to buy a canon. Master Shake should be shot out of a canon. Master Chief carries a canon. Master Mold makes sentinels that use built-in canons. Master File isn't canon. Master Miyagi could use his bare hands to break a canon. Master Files is my bible. Lots of inspired interpretations, but I remain faithful to most chapters. Quote
KOG Water Dragon Posted July 18 Author Posted July 18 (edited) I apologize in advance. Not much news to comment on. And I'm bored. So... VF-1J Max Super Battroid WHEN HASEGAWA? WHEEEEEEN?????????? (Oh and also, VF-1D Battroid when please?) Edited July 18 by KOG Water Dragon Quote
KOG Water Dragon Posted July 25 Author Posted July 25 Well, it's out. HLJ just charged me for my YF-19 battroid. Quote
Duymon Posted July 25 Posted July 25 Saw this pop up just now. nice to see it finally coming out Quote
Big s Posted July 25 Posted July 25 On 7/18/2024 at 2:23 PM, KOG Water Dragon said: (Oh and also, VF-1D Battroid when please?) Probably gonna be a while since max factory has theirs coming out pretty soon Quote
Bolt Posted July 25 Posted July 25 9 hours ago, KOG Water Dragon said: Well, it's out. HLJ just charged me for my YF-19 battroid. Yup. It's now in my private warehouse too, along with the plamax vf-1j batroid and the Max Rau . So i can finally make the shipping worth my while. Quote
Bolt Posted July 25 Posted July 25 On 7/2/2024 at 6:00 AM, Urashiman said: well - that was kinda predictable https://www.hlj.com/1-72-scale-yf-21w-fast-pack-fold-booster-hsg65887 Though I've got plenty of these already, i will be getting a few for the fold boosters. Quote
Duymon Posted July 25 Posted July 25 A big plus of that hase YF-21 is no bent head laser out of the box 😁 Quote
KOG Water Dragon Posted July 25 Author Posted July 25 5 hours ago, Big s said: Probably gonna be a while since max factory has theirs coming out pretty soon Oh, I know. I just find Hasegawa's variant releasing strategy weird. We've had 2 distinct releases of the VF-1D fighter, and also a VF-1D gerwalk, but not VF-1D battroid even though the battroids came out way before the gerwalks started. Also odd (to me): The Max and Miria VF-1Js are vanilla as fighter releases, but super configuration for gerwalk and battroid releases. And there's still no VF-1J super max battroid to go with the miria type, even though they made sure to release max and miria queadluun rau in quick succession. There seems to be little love the battroid line in general, as they've really only done a couple variants (VF-1J miria super, and the minmei guard super) since the original launch lineup of regular and super/strike battroids. For consistency, I'd really like to have a pair of max and miria VF-1J super fighters, and a max VF-1J super battroid. Obviously I can wait a bit, but I really hope I won't have to buy another max/miria fighter set PLUS 2 more super VF-1s to make the max/miria super fighter pair, and an extra VF-1J super batt which I will then have to source max decals for. I'm hoping I could source relevant max specific decals from a max gerwalk, but that still means having to buy 2 kits to make 1. And heck, I'd rather have a dedicated max VF-1J super battroid so we can have an excuse to get a sweet new boxart. The art for the miria super battroid was really nice. And then of course the artwork can wind up in one of the artwork compilation books... Sorry, rant over. Quote
KOG Water Dragon Posted July 25 Author Posted July 25 3 hours ago, Bolt said: Yup. It's now in my private warehouse too, along with the plamax vf-1j batroid and the Max Rau . So i can finally make the shipping worth my while. Same, I've got those plus the plamax VF-1J fighter and some older Hasegawa restocks ready to go, so it's really time to arrange a shipment, Quote
Big s Posted July 25 Posted July 25 6 hours ago, KOG Water Dragon said: I just find Hasegawa's variant releasing strategy weird. I feel the same about Plamax. A few odd fighters and two battroid kits, one being the 1D, but no 1D fighter yet and a bunch of 1A fighters, but no 1Abattroid yet. All the gotta really do to make me happy would be a kit with all head pets for the battroid and same for the fighters and basic decal sets and then I wouldn’t have to wait, but I guess they really want you to pick up each release. Also no gerwalk yet. these two companies are both doing VF-1 kits, but trying so hard not to get in each other’s way over super slight variations Quote
kajnrig Posted July 26 Posted July 26 16 hours ago, Duymon said: Saw this pop up just now. nice to see it finally coming out Took the time to do a rough Google translate of the text. - Scrawl on bottom is typical "Photo is of prototype, may differ from release" notice. - 0:09-0:20 "What would happen if the stylish YF-19 fighter transformed into a Battroid? This is a kit that has truly taken shape. The interpretation is overflowing with Hasegawa's reputation for its aircraft models." - 0:22-0:28 "It is full of charm, with detailed moldings all over the body, sharp edges, and a sense of presence in the proportions." - 0:29-46 TOP: "The stylish battroid form is made into 1/72 scale." BOTTOM: "The proportions are a perfect balance of smartness and strength. The parts are expressed with a wealth of detail in the 3D curves, and the three-dimensional effect of the shadows is a highlight. When the fighter plane transforms, the edges of the panels are exposed, convincingly expressing the thinness of the armor." - 0:47-1:00 "The structure has been devised to pursue sharp edges and molded fine details. The technology cultivated in scale models gives it a unique Hasegawa feel. I'm also happy that it's divided into parts that make it easy to paint." - 1:02 TOP: "Head visor and sensors reproduced with clear parts." BOTTOM: "The head visor and sensors are reproduced with clear parts." - 1:06-1:30 TOP: "The legs, which are the engine nacelles, are also full of aircraft-like expressions." BOTTOM: "The leg of the YF-19 houses the engine and carries the missile inside the outer bulge. The mold that reproduces the duct behind the knee is also realistic with just the right amount of volume. The wave pattern on the hinge part of the vertical stabilizer is often seen on actual aircraft. Hasegawa's commitment is conveyed through small details like these. The thinness of the folded wings on the sides also expresses the fighter-like character of the YF-19." - 1:32 TOP: "Comes with FAST Pack // Can be assembled in normal state and selection type" BOTTOM: "Happily, the kit also comes with a Fast Pack, which is an additional piece of equipment. When I attached the Fast Pack, the impression completely changed. It has voluminous proportions." - 1:42 TOP: "Gunpod can be attached to the shield." BOTTOM: "In addition, the shield can be attached with a gunpod as configured." - 1:47 "Finally, we will introduce a runner configuration. You can clearly see the molding applied to each part." - 1:55 "The overwhelming power that you can't believe is 1/72 scale is attractive." Video closes with typical release info: Hasegawa 1/72 Macross Plus YF-19 Battroid Scheduled to be released July 2024 Base price: 4900 JPY (w/ tax: 5390 JPY) Model height: 225mm Quote
Bolt Posted July 26 Posted July 26 1 hour ago, kajnrig said: Took the time to do a rough Google translate of the text. - Scrawl on bottom is typical "Photo is of prototype, may differ from release" notice. - 0:09-0:20 "What would happen if the stylish YF-19 fighter transformed into a Battroid? This is a kit that has truly taken shape. The interpretation is overflowing with Hasegawa's reputation for its aircraft models." - 0:22-0:28 "It is full of charm, with detailed moldings all over the body, sharp edges, and a sense of presence in the proportions." - 0:29-46 TOP: "The stylish battroid form is made into 1/72 scale." BOTTOM: "The proportions are a perfect balance of smartness and strength. The parts are expressed with a wealth of detail in the 3D curves, and the three-dimensional effect of the shadows is a highlight. When the fighter plane transforms, the edges of the panels are exposed, convincingly expressing the thinness of the armor." - 0:47-1:00 "The structure has been devised to pursue sharp edges and molded fine details. The technology cultivated in scale models gives it a unique Hasegawa feel. I'm also happy that it's divided into parts that make it easy to paint." - 1:02 TOP: "Head visor and sensors reproduced with clear parts." BOTTOM: "The head visor and sensors are reproduced with clear parts." - 1:06-1:30 TOP: "The legs, which are the engine nacelles, are also full of aircraft-like expressions." BOTTOM: "The leg of the YF-19 houses the engine and carries the missile inside the outer bulge. The mold that reproduces the duct behind the knee is also realistic with just the right amount of volume. The wave pattern on the hinge part of the vertical stabilizer is often seen on actual aircraft. Hasegawa's commitment is conveyed through small details like these. The thinness of the folded wings on the sides also expresses the fighter-like character of the YF-19." - 1:32 TOP: "Comes with FAST Pack // Can be assembled in normal state and selection type" BOTTOM: "Happily, the kit also comes with a Fast Pack, which is an additional piece of equipment. When I attached the Fast Pack, the impression completely changed. It has voluminous proportions." - 1:42 TOP: "Gunpod can be attached to the shield." BOTTOM: "In addition, the shield can be attached with a gunpod as configured." - 1:47 "Finally, we will introduce a runner configuration. You can clearly see the molding applied to each part." - 1:55 "The overwhelming power that you can't believe is 1/72 scale is attractive." Video closes with typical release info: Hasegawa 1/72 Macross Plus YF-19 Battroid Scheduled to be released July 2024 Base price: 4900 JPY (w/ tax: 5390 JPY) Model height: 225mm Thanks for taking the time to do that ! Quote
Bolt Posted July 26 Posted July 26 9 hours ago, no3Ljm said: From Hobby Japan Web. What's going on here? In some pictures the heal looks proper. In the others it's not right. Boy this kit need some panel lining. Quote
KOG Water Dragon Posted July 26 Author Posted July 26 52 minutes ago, Bolt said: What's going on here? In some pictures the heal looks proper. In the others it's not right. Boy this kit need some panel lining. It has 2 sets of heel parts and you choose which one you want to use. I think it's an attempt to reconcile the differences in how the heel part looks in fighter mode vs battroid mode. One set is 'this looks OK for battroid mode but we know it would look weird compared to the fighter mode part' and the other part is 'this is closer to the look of the fighter mode part but it doesn't really sit right in battroid mode'. I don't really get it, there's been lots of variable YF-19 figures before, so how did they achieve a heel part that looks OK in both modes and why didn't Hasegawa draw from that? Personally I think the heel that sits on its edge looks terrible and I'll definitely use the other set of heel parts... even though they look nothing like the corresponding parts on Hasegawa's own fighter kit. As for panel lining... sure. It's like any Hasegawa kit. Tons of detail but it's delicate so it needs a wash to bring it out. Small issues aside, I'm really excited for this kit. Having a dedicated battroid kit in 1/72 of the YF-19 with this level of detail is something of a dream come true. I just hope Hasegawa sells enough to find it worthwhile to follow it up with a YF-21 battroid and then maybe a VF-11. I don't do pre-finished figures/toys, so battroids of these designs are something that's been missing from my (model) collection for a long long time. Quote
no3Ljm Posted July 26 Posted July 26 2 hours ago, Bolt said: What's going on here? In some pictures the heal looks proper. In the others it's not right. Boy this kit need some panel lining. 2 options included in the kit. Quote
KOG Water Dragon Posted July 26 Author Posted July 26 Does anyone have pics of the heel part for the various YF-19 toys that have come out over the years? I don't own any myself and it's been hard to find good pics of just the heels when searching images on google. I'm curious how Hasegawa's interpretation compared to all the various transforming toys which really do have to balance how the part looks in different modes. Quote
Big s Posted July 26 Posted July 26 2 hours ago, KOG Water Dragon said: so how did they achieve a heel part that looks OK in both modes and why didn't Hasegawa draw from that? The ones on the toys don’t actually transform the way they’re supposed to. It’s one of those odd animation things that doesn’t translate to real life, so the fighter feet look more proper to how it was meant to look, but the battroid feet will never match that, so Hasegawa did one set for the battroid to look more like the animation and the odd ones that don’t look quite right are to appear as though they never change shape at all between the two modes like they do in the animation. Most of the toys just kinda compromise between the two appearances but hasegawa tends to like the idea that the fighter is the ultimate shape and the battroid is secondary. that’s why the battroid intakes on the VF-1 are so big that they get in the way of mobility. In this case they were nice and decided to give two options, the ones that would be realistic which look weird or the ones that look better for battroid Quote
pengbuzz Posted July 26 Posted July 26 I think in some cases, the animation needs to be taken with a grain of salt and the model/ toy made to work the best realistic way possible. Quote
no3Ljm Posted July 27 Posted July 27 3 hours ago, KOG Water Dragon said: Does anyone have pics of the heel part for the various YF-19 toys that have come out over the years? I don't own any myself and it's been hard to find good pics of just the heels when searching images on google. I'm curious how Hasegawa's interpretation compared to all the various transforming toys which really do have to balance how the part looks in different modes. First, here's Hasegawa's YF-19 (Isamu) kit. 1/72 YF-19 with Fast Pack & Fold Booster (2024) 1/72 YF-19 (2002) 1/48 YF-19 (2009) For transforming toy form, here's all the link to @jenius VF/YF-19 reviews which you can browse the photos with: Yamato 1/72 YF-19 and VF-19A https://anymoon.com/blog/?paged=2&cat=20 Revoltech YF-19 and YF-21 https://anymoon.com/blog/?p=2289 Yamato Gnu-Dou YF-19, VF-11B, and YF-21 https://anymoon.com/blog/?p=2274 Bandai 1/65 VF-19 https://anymoon.com/blog/?p=397 Doyusha 1/144 VF-1, YF-19, and YF-21 https://anymoon.com/blog/?p=2259 Bandai Hi-Metal VF-19 https://anymoon.com/blog/?p=3724 Yamato/Arcadia 1/60 VF-19 https://anymoon.com/blog/?p=4769 Yamato 1/60 YF-19 https://anymoon.com/blog/?p=1673 Bandai DX VF-19/Adv and YF-19 https://anymoon.com/blog/?p=8151 Arcadia 1/60 YF-19 https://anymoon.com/blog/?p=8083 Hope that helps. Quote
KOG Water Dragon Posted July 27 Author Posted July 27 17 hours ago, no3Ljm said: First, here's Hasegawa's YF-19 (Isamu) kit. 1/72 YF-19 with Fast Pack & Fold Booster (2024) 1/72 YF-19 (2002) 1/48 YF-19 (2009) For transforming toy form, here's all the link to @jenius VF/YF-19 reviews which you can browse the photos with: Yamato 1/72 YF-19 and VF-19A https://anymoon.com/blog/?paged=2&cat=20 Revoltech YF-19 and YF-21 https://anymoon.com/blog/?p=2289 Yamato Gnu-Dou YF-19, VF-11B, and YF-21 https://anymoon.com/blog/?p=2274 Bandai 1/65 VF-19 https://anymoon.com/blog/?p=397 Doyusha 1/144 VF-1, YF-19, and YF-21 https://anymoon.com/blog/?p=2259 Bandai Hi-Metal VF-19 https://anymoon.com/blog/?p=3724 Yamato/Arcadia 1/60 VF-19 https://anymoon.com/blog/?p=4769 Yamato 1/60 YF-19 https://anymoon.com/blog/?p=1673 Bandai DX VF-19/Adv and YF-19 https://anymoon.com/blog/?p=8151 Arcadia 1/60 YF-19 https://anymoon.com/blog/?p=8083 Hope that helps. It does help! Thank you. Very interesting. I think of all these, maybe the Bandai DX VF-19 Advanced makes the best attempt at feet that look OK in both fighter and battroid modes. Quote
Big s Posted July 27 Posted July 27 23 hours ago, pengbuzz said: I think in some cases, the animation needs to be taken with a grain of salt and the model/ toy made to work the best realistic way possible. I think if the item is meant to transform, then I agree. But if it’s a separate model for fighter and battroid, then I actually like it when they try and stick to the animation art. Quote
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