arbit Posted February 6, 2018 Posted February 6, 2018 Macross Delta Sneak Peak Review: The new Delta movie is out and it is amazing! All the drawbacks from the convoluted TV series were corrected into a concisely plotted story-line, that also carries an emotional punch. Add to that the amazing music and action choreography, and Delta Walkure is easily one of the greatest Anime productions of all time. Macross will continue into the future Quote
Seto Kaiba Posted February 6, 2018 Posted February 6, 2018 If you're going to drop acid, at least bring enough for the rest of the class. Quote
arbit Posted February 6, 2018 Posted February 6, 2018 We 80's Macross fans are ever optimistic. You young 'uns don't know what we went through. Quote
Focslain Posted February 6, 2018 Posted February 6, 2018 On 2/5/2018 at 8:48 PM, Seto Kaiba said: EDIT: I have to say, after all the fuss and noise about how popular Walkure supposedly is, there's very little in terms of official publications, doujinshi, and fan art for the Macross Delta series. I'm honestly surprised that the disparity is so huge compared to Macross Frontier. Almost a literal order of magnitude difference at the least. Expand Been thinking on this. So in the case of not much dojins, might it be that there is more than enough waifu-bait out there? If the info from the Speaker Podcast guys is correct, then Walkure is known more for their music then the anime and could explain lack of imagery. There is also the point that Delta was paper thin in plot and character development. In looking at Walkure individually there is little dojin material outside of Makina x Reina as Kaname is too straight and has little screen time, Frejya has the most but is so tied to Hayate that breaking the pair would seem sacrilege and Mikumo is a construct with one purpose, to sing. Versus Ranka and Sheryl from Frontier which had way more depth and human emotion and I only saw the movies. Walkure’s best and only major strength is their music, which is why their concerts are so packed. Quote
Seto Kaiba Posted February 6, 2018 Posted February 6, 2018 On 2/6/2018 at 7:34 PM, arbit said: We 80's Macross fans are ever optimistic. You young 'uns don't know what we went through. Expand Granted, Mythbusters did rather conclusively prove that it's possible to polish a turd... but in the final analysis all the polish in the world can't make it any less sh*t. That's what rational fans are looking at the Macross Delta: Gekijo no Walkure movie as: a superficial improvement to something fundamentally unpleasant. On 2/6/2018 at 8:39 PM, Focslain said: So in the case of not much dojins, might it be that there is more than enough waifu-bait out there? If the info from the Speaker Podcast guys is correct, then Walkure is known more for their music then the anime and could explain lack of imagery. There is also the point that Delta was paper thin in plot and character development. Expand Considering Walkure was basically supposed to be carrying Macross Delta, it's still rather surprising that there's so little for the series. The lack of character development across the board is likely an explanation for it but it doesn't really diminish the impact of the sheer lack of fan material from the series. Even the characters of Walkure in the series don't seem to be popular enough to muster a decent volume of fanart. Quote
SuperHobo Posted February 9, 2018 Posted February 9, 2018 Please tell me Arad does something in that armored VF-31 of his. Hopefully they cut out every single one of those sneaking around missions. Quote
Marzan Posted February 9, 2018 Posted February 9, 2018 No reviews out yet, but Tochiro was on Twitter a short while ago raving about it and saying one should follow shortly. So I'd expect the podcast guys to deliver something within the next 24 hours to strike while the iron is hot. Quote
D-Joe Posted February 9, 2018 Posted February 9, 2018 Reveal hidden contents I assume this count as spoiler? but woho a new plane to buy. Quote
Mommar Posted February 9, 2018 Posted February 9, 2018 On 2/9/2018 at 1:29 PM, Marzan said: No reviews out yet, but Tochiro was on Twitter a short while ago raving about it and saying one should follow shortly. So I'd expect the podcast guys to deliver something within the next 24 hours to strike while the iron is hot. Expand Raving about it? Quote
Seto Kaiba Posted February 9, 2018 Posted February 9, 2018 On 2/9/2018 at 4:46 PM, Mommar said: Raving about it? Expand They've finally driven him mad? Quote
JIS Posted February 9, 2018 Posted February 9, 2018 I just watched the movie a few hours ago. While my Japanese level is far from perfect I was able to understand most of the movie except an important little part in the last few minutes of the movie. I will try to avoid spoilers, so I can’t talk about several things. First, if you dislike too much Delta then the movie won’t change your mind. However, I can say that the movie is far superior to the anime. Maybe I was with very low expectations or maybe I am starting to lower my expectations of movies in general or maybe I was excited to see my first Macross movie in a theater; I’m not sure but I really enjoined most of the movie. The anime had several good moments but it also had too many terrible (not just bad, terrible) moments. The plot was a mess and probably without the mechas and the Macross name we would stop watching the show. Well, the movie is super focused in what it worked in the anime and they stripped almost all the crap and non-sense (so they removed a lot of things). Of course, the idol stuff is there and there are problems with the plot and character development but it’s a better plot altogether and with way better pace. It is great? I don’t think so but in my opinion is a better movie than most of us will expect from Delta. Also, as always the mechas are awesome. Note: the boobs of the girls increased their size a little. And why anime artists draw boobs as breast implants all the time? Yes, I know, big boobs in Japan means implants but still… Note2: I received a Reina gift with my movie ticket. Quote
no3Ljm Posted February 9, 2018 Author Posted February 9, 2018 (edited) On 2/9/2018 at 7:38 PM, JIS said: I just watched the movie a few hours ago. While my Japanese level is far from perfect I was able to understand most of the movie except an important little part in the last few minutes of the movie. I will try to avoid spoilers, so I can’t talk about several things. First, if you dislike too much Delta then the movie won’t change your mind. However, I can say that the movie is far superior to the anime. Maybe I was with very low expectations or maybe I am starting to lower my expectations of movies in general or maybe I was excited to see my first Macross movie in a theater; I’m not sure but I really enjoined most of the movie. The anime had several good moments but it also had too many terrible (not just bad, terrible) moments. The plot was a mess and probably without the mechas and the Macross name we would stop watching the show. Well, the movie is super focused in what it worked in the anime and they stripped almost all the crap and non-sense (so they removed a lot of things). Of course, the idol stuff is there and there are problems with the plot and character development but it’s a better plot altogether and with way better pace. It is great? I don’t think so but in my opinion is a better movie than most of us will expect from Delta. Also, as always the mechas are awesome. Note: the boobs of the girls increased their size a little. And why anime artists draw boobs as breast implants all the time? Yes, I know, big boobs in Japan means implants but still… Note2: I received a Reina gift with my movie ticket. Expand Thanks for your input, JIS. Does that mean Reina had a boob job as well? Wow. She's not petite anymore. Edited February 9, 2018 by no3Ljm Quote
JIS Posted February 9, 2018 Posted February 9, 2018 Note 3: I really really really want to see the Reina and Freya cosplay in summer Comiket. he he Quote
JIS Posted February 9, 2018 Posted February 9, 2018 On 2/9/2018 at 7:44 PM, no3Ljm said: Thanks for your input, JIS. Does that mean Reina had a boob job as well? Wow. She's not petite anymore. Expand Not her, but still fairly big boobs for a petite girl. Quote
Sandman Posted February 9, 2018 Posted February 9, 2018 On 2/9/2018 at 7:38 PM, JIS said: I just watched the movie a few hours ago. While my Japanese level is far from perfect I was able to understand most of the movie except an important little part in the last few minutes of the movie. I will try to avoid spoilers, so I can’t talk about several things. First, if you dislike too much Delta then the movie won’t change your mind. However, I can say that the movie is far superior to the anime. Maybe I was with very low expectations or maybe I am starting to lower my expectations of movies in general or maybe I was excited to see my first Macross movie in a theater; I’m not sure but I really enjoined most of the movie. The anime had several good moments but it also had too many terrible (not just bad, terrible) moments. The plot was a mess and probably without the mechas and the Macross name we would stop watching the show. Well, the movie is super focused in what it worked in the anime and they stripped almost all the crap and non-sense (so they removed a lot of things). Of course, the idol stuff is there and there are problems with the plot and character development but it’s a better plot altogether and with way better pace. It is great? I don’t think so but in my opinion is a better movie than most of us will expect from Delta. Also, as always the mechas are awesome. Note: the boobs of the girls increased their size a little. And why anime artists draw boobs as breast implants all the time? Yes, I know, big boobs in Japan means implants but still… Note2: I received a Reina gift with my movie ticket. Expand So how much of the movie was the same as the series (scenes and footage) and how much was completely new scenes and footage? Quote
JIS Posted February 9, 2018 Posted February 9, 2018 On 2/9/2018 at 8:12 PM, Sandman said: So how much of the movie was the same as the series (scenes and footage) and how much was completely new scenes and footage? Expand The following could be considered spoilers for some people: The Delta movie is closer (way more) to the anime than the first Frontier movie was to the Frontier anime. Plenty of scenes were reused. But I think their criteria of what to reuse and what to do completely new was for the most part good. I still feel that some good scene were left behind, specially Mirage, but I can't complain too much. Quote
kajnrig Posted February 9, 2018 Posted February 9, 2018 On 2/9/2018 at 7:38 PM, JIS said: Note: the boobs of the girls increased their size a little. And why anime artists draw boobs as breast implants all the time? Yes, I know, big boobs in Japan means implants but still… Expand Booooo..... On 2/9/2018 at 7:44 PM, no3Ljm said: Does that mean Reina had a boob job as well? Wow. She's not petite anymore. Expand ...oooOOO..... On 2/9/2018 at 7:47 PM, JIS said: Not her, but still fairly big boobs for a petite girl. Expand ...OOO!!! ....b. (No but for real boob size changes all the time depending on the fetish of the current animator. I remember me back in the day when Asuka Langley went from like a D to A-cup over the course of the show.) Anyway, it's good to hear the movie is tighter than the series, at least, though that kind of seems like a given. As for the spoilered mecha, Reveal hidden contents Is that supposed to be a Mirage-color Draken? Like the Messer VF-31 equipped with Lil' Drakens? Quote
JIS Posted February 9, 2018 Posted February 9, 2018 On 2/9/2018 at 8:27 PM, kajnrig said: Booooo..... ...oooOOO..... ...OOO!!! ....b. (No but for real boob size changes all the time depending on the fetish of the current animator. I remember me back in the day when Asuka Langley went from like a D to A-cup over the course of the show.) Anyway, it's good to hear the movie is tighter than the series, at least, though that kind of seems like a given. As for the spoilered mecha, Reveal hidden contents Is that supposed to be a Mirage-color Draken? Like the Messer VF-31 equipped with Lil' Drakens? Expand Boobs are important in the movie!! And about your question... Reveal hidden contents Do you really want to know so many details? Reveal hidden contents Yes, there is a Mirage-color Draken with Lil Drakens. Quote
Sandman Posted February 9, 2018 Posted February 9, 2018 I'm all for more spoilers (as long as they are tagged with spoiler tags) since i won't get to see this for a least 6 months and probably longer for a sub. Quote
Hiryu Posted February 9, 2018 Posted February 9, 2018 Yes, I don't mind properly tagged spoilers as well. I'm actually more interested in the mecha than the story. Quote
SuperHobo Posted February 9, 2018 Posted February 9, 2018 I'm hearing there's a lot more action in this movie. How's the valkyrie combat? Does Arad do something cool in that armored VF-31S? Quote
Sandman Posted February 10, 2018 Posted February 10, 2018 I wonder if Messer dies the same way. Quote
azrael Posted February 10, 2018 Posted February 10, 2018 So what you're saying is from a mess of garbage (TV series) to an organized garbage pile (movie) ala WALL-E. Quote
UN Spacy Posted February 10, 2018 Posted February 10, 2018 I'll wait for to preorder the Bluray since it'll most likely come with English subtitles done by Tochiro and crew. Quote
JIS Posted February 10, 2018 Posted February 10, 2018 (edited) On 2/9/2018 at 9:19 PM, SuperHobo said: I'm hearing there's a lot more action in this movie. How's the valkyrie combat? Does Arad do something cool in that armored VF-31S? Expand Reveal hidden contents Arad and Chuck both have armored VF-31's. They kick some buts, of course, but nothing extraordinary. Seeing the armored version was cool enough though. The combat was also very recycled from the anime (not a bad thing) but it had some new cool scenes too and it was well paced. Edited February 10, 2018 by JIS Quote
SuperHobo Posted February 10, 2018 Posted February 10, 2018 On 2/10/2018 at 3:33 AM, JIS said: Reveal hidden contents Arad and Chuck have both armored VF-31s. They kick some buts, of course, but nothing extraordinary. Seeing the armored version was cool enough though. The combat is also very recycled from the anime (not a bad thing) but it also have some new cool scenes too and it was well paced. Expand Cool. Thanks for the info! Now to wait like 6-8 months for the blu-ray disk. Quote
no3Ljm Posted February 10, 2018 Author Posted February 10, 2018 On 2/10/2018 at 3:33 AM, JIS said: Reveal hidden contents Arad and Chuck have both armored VF-31s. They kick some buts, of course, but nothing extraordinary. Seeing the armored version was cool enough though. The combat is also very recycled from the anime (not a bad thing) but it also have some new cool scenes too and it was well paced. Expand Reveal hidden contents Perhaps less scissoring? Quote
SMS007 Posted February 10, 2018 Posted February 10, 2018 (edited) On 2/10/2018 at 12:05 AM, Sandman said: I wonder if Messer dies the same way. Expand Someone on Discord said it's slightly different. Reveal hidden contents Messer and Keith's duel is longer, and it ends with Keith fatally wounding Messer, Messer's fighter crashes, and he dies in Kaname's arms. Edited February 10, 2018 by SMS007 Quote
seti88 Posted February 10, 2018 Posted February 10, 2018 JIS you are probably the best link we have to the movie now other than when the delta movie podcast comes. Thanks for answering! btw how's the usage of the 31A's? On 2/10/2018 at 3:33 AM, JIS said: Reveal hidden contents Arad and Chuck have both armored VF-31s. They kick some buts, of course, but nothing extraordinary. Seeing the armored version was cool enough though. The combat is also very recycled from the anime (not a bad thing) but it also have some new cool scenes too and it was well paced. Expand Reveal hidden contents Wait a min, you mean chuck pilots another 31s? So it isnt a yellow 31 armored? Are both arad and chucks armor parts the same color? Quote
kajnrig Posted February 10, 2018 Posted February 10, 2018 On 2/10/2018 at 5:11 AM, SMS007 said: Someone on Discord said it's slightly different. Reveal hidden contents Messer's fighter crashes, and he dies in Kaname's arms. Expand BOOOOOO... On 2/10/2018 at 5:04 AM, no3Ljm said: Reveal hidden contents Perhaps less scissoring? Expand ...oobs? Idols and fighters have forever ruined that word for me. Quote
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