Macross Δ (Delta) Movie Gekijō no Walkūre (Passionate Walkure)

[ZOR prime]

Yep

They still have unfinished business with Windermere

[Seto Kaiba]

6 hours ago, Chronocidal said:

While managing to remove almost all of the character development.

Well, that's what happens when you decide to have a main cast easily twice the size of other Macross shows... you don't have enough time to develop them all.

It's pretty clear they were planning to clean up on character goods, though.  The members of Walkure cover the standard harem anime character archetypes, and the Aerial Knights following the reverse harem character archetypes so closely that their promotional art feels like it was drawn with an Ouran High School Host Club crossover in mind.

[Chronocidal]

1 hour ago, Seto Kaiba said:

Well, that's what happens when you decide to have a main cast easily twice the size of other Macross shows... you don't have enough time to develop them all.

It's pretty clear they were planning to clean up on character goods, though.  The members of Walkure cover the standard harem anime character archetypes, and the Aerial Knights following the reverse harem character archetypes so closely that their promotional art feels like it was drawn with an Ouran High School Host Club crossover in mind.

But even that's a best-case scenario where any of them got developed.  We wound up with cardboard cut-out characters constructed via keyword search of TVTropes pages.  It's like they checked off a series of pop-idol fetish boxes, patted themselves on the back for a job well done, and counted on the audience to imagine the characters for themselves based on what they wanted.

[Bolt]

Yes, but I wonder, is the fan base in Japan just as critical of Delta ? Compared to say Frontier. We know it's (mostly) all about the music , for many Japanese fans . It also seems that the music from Delta is very popular.  But i know there are still frontier songs that make some of the top charts to this day..

[Seto Kaiba]

2 hours ago, Chronocidal said:

We wound up with cardboard cut-out characters constructed via keyword search of TVTropes pages.  It's like they checked off a series of pop-idol fetish boxes, patted themselves on the back for a job well done, and counted on the audience to imagine the characters for themselves based on what they wanted.

That's basically what I described... the cast was so huge that most of them ended up as specific, but undeveloped, character archetypes that the audience was expected to project onto instead of relate to. 

They did an OK job developing Hayate, Freyja, etc., but IMO too many characters on the protagonist side were expected to float on by on their resemblance to Frontier characters who were properly developed.  Arad being a suspiciously similar substitute for Ozma, Mikumo for Sheryl, etc.  In the late series, Roid for Grace and Keith for Brera.

[Gamma00Ray]

I couldn't wait for a hypothetical US release 😅 I got this today, and I just finished watching it. It was okay. I liked the Frontier movies more, but this one was okay. I'm looking forward to the second Frontier movie. I've got it preordered!