Podtastic Posted May 6, 2019 Posted May 6, 2019 (edited) This comic may be the worst yet. 1) Min May sings an aggressive song which is unlikely to either inspire the troops or evoke the correct emotional response in the Zentraedi. If anything hostility from Meltrans is what Zentrans expect and are used to. Does the writer understand the mythos? 2) Khyron amazingly notices that a single pod is missing. Since when is he a pod counting storeman? Does the writer understand that the Zentraedi can't be bothered with such trivia? 3) The SDF saws Dolza's Mainbase in half with an energy blast in a panel where the perspective is reminiscent of one of those old medieval drawings. This is absolutely beyond ridiculous. Do the writer and/or artist actually understand the scale and sheer mass of Dolza's Mobile Fortess? Edited May 6, 2019 by Podtastic
Seto Kaiba Posted May 6, 2019 Posted May 6, 2019 1 hour ago, Podtastic said: This comic may be the worst yet. 1) Min May sings an aggressive song which is unlikely to either inspire the troops or evoke the correct emotional response in the Zentraedi. If anything hostility from Meltrans is what Zentrans expect and are used to. Does the writer understand the mythos? It's not that much different from what was used in the Robotech TV series. If you recall, the little ditty that Robotech used to replace the classic love song "Ai wa nagareru" from the original Macross series was "We will win"... a song about winning the battle. It wouldn't exactly have evoked any foreign sentiments in the Zentradi. Also, the "hostility [with] Meltrans" thing doesn't exist in Robotech... only in Macross: Do You Remember Love?. Do you understand the mythos? 1 hour ago, Podtastic said: 2) Khyron amazingly notices that a single pod is missing. Since when is he a pod counting storeman? Does the writer understand that the Zentraedi can't be bothered with such trivia? He's really just Davey the Donut Boy, who blackmailed his way up the chain of command without having any actual skills. 1 hour ago, Podtastic said: 3) The SDF saws Dolza's Mainbase in half with an energy blast in a panel where the perspective is reminiscent of one of those old medieval drawings. This is absolutely beyond ridiculous. Do the writer and/or artist actually understand the scale and sheer mass of Dolza's Mobile Fortess? I feel like you might be confusing "understand" with "give a f*ck about". Whether they understand or not, it is clearly evident that they don't give a f*ck about it.
Podtastic Posted May 6, 2019 Posted May 6, 2019 5 hours ago, Seto Kaiba said: f you recall, the little ditty that Robotech used to replace the classic love song "Ai wa nagareru" from the original Macross series was "We will win"... a song about winning the battle. It wouldn't exactly have evoked any foreign sentiments in the Zentradi. Also, the "hostility [with] Meltrans" thing doesn't exist in Robotech... only in Macross: Do You Remember Love?. Do you understand the mythos? I do, however that song would have inspired the humans at least. The other question would be whether all Zentraedi understood the language being broadcast or were just responding to the melody and tones. I do and yes it does. In Robotech it's is just hostility, contempt, distrust and rivalry between the segregated sexes as opposed to open conflict as in DYRL.
sketchley Posted May 7, 2019 Posted May 7, 2019 7 hours ago, Seto Kaiba said: He's really just Dennis the Donut Boy, who blackmailed his way up the chain of command without having any actual skills. Fixed!
Seto Kaiba Posted May 7, 2019 Posted May 7, 2019 2 hours ago, Podtastic said: I do, however that song would have inspired the humans at least. The other question would be whether all Zentraedi understood the language being broadcast or were just responding to the melody and tones. Considering it's Rebecca Forstadt's tone-deaf caterwauling, the only thing I would say it could inspire would be suicide... or perhaps murder, whatever it takes to stop the Most Annoying Sound. (Seriously, it's like listening to someone insert a barbed-wire buttplug into a hungover cockatiel.) 2 hours ago, Podtastic said: I do and yes it does. In Robotech it's is just hostility, contempt, distrust and rivalry between the segregated sexes as opposed to open conflict as in DYRL. Ah, no... just as in the original Super Dimension Fortress Macross version, the lolicon trio are pretty freaking stoked when they hear they're being delivered to their objective by none other than top ace [Milia/Miriya]. The ONLY hostility ever displayed was between the commanders, which was pretty much entirely work related. [Quamzin/Khyron] was PO'd because [Laplamiz/Azonia] put him on the shortest of short leashes to make him behave, and [Vrlitwhai/Breetai] was a bit snippy because she took his job and it took him a fair bit of political maneuvering to get it back (with interest) from their mutual boss. Zentradi men and women are segregated, but not mutually hostile. Mutually hostile was only a thing in DYRL?.
Einherjar Posted May 7, 2019 Posted May 7, 2019 (edited) I had a hard time looking for it, but Multiverse World is just another rando blog site. Edited May 8, 2019 by Einherjar
Brofessor Posted May 14, 2019 Posted May 14, 2019 Free Comic Book Day was 5/4/2019. There was a free Robotech Comic titled Event Horizon Chapter Zero. It is a new story arc starting with Chapter One in Issue 21 of Titan’s Robotech Comic Book. Spoiler Alert for Issue 17 March 2019 Spoiler The introduction seems to have errors. It states the SDF-1 belongs to the Zentreadi but it belongs to The Masters. It also states Miriya unleashed Invid warriors inside the SDF-1 as a distraction. However, it was Lazlo Zand who allowed the Invid through a portal and into the SDF-1. The introduction also refers to the onboard city as Macross City but it never really had a name until it was on Earth as New Macross City. Lisa decides to take the SDF-1 back to Mars. Dr. Lang is working on the omni-directional barrier system. Dr. Jean Grant is shown onboard the SDF-1. Evil Roy is killed and Good Roy seems to escape from Dr. Lazlo Zand. Kazianna Hesh and Kurita are shown. Kazianna proposes treason by micronizing and approaching the SDF-1 to join forces against the Invid.
Seto Kaiba Posted May 14, 2019 Posted May 14, 2019 12 minutes ago, Brofessor said: Hide contents The introduction seems to have errors. It states the SDF-1 belongs to the Zentreadi but it belongs to The Masters. It also states Miriya unleashed Invid warriors inside the SDF-1 as a distraction. However, it was Lazlo Zand who allowed the Invid through a portal and into the SDF-1. The introduction also refers to the onboard city as Macross City but it never really had a name until it was on Earth as New Macross City. Lisa decides to take the SDF-1 back to Mars. Dr. Lang is working on the omni-directional barrier system. Dr. Jean Grant is shown onboard the SDF-1. Evil Roy is killed and Good Roy seems to escape from Dr. Lazlo Zand. Kazianna Hesh and Kurita are shown. Kazianna proposes treason by micronizing and approaching the SDF-1 to join forces against the Invid. Go home, Titan Comics... you're drunk.
Brofessor Posted May 14, 2019 Posted May 14, 2019 Robotech Event Horizon is a 5 issue story arc. Event Horizon also includes the first of a 5 part back-up story at the end of the comic book. Starting with Issue 17 the A cover variants begin a countdown to free Comic Book Day. Issue 17 has a -4 and Issue 20 has a -1. Event Horizon is Chapter Zero.
505thAirborne Posted May 14, 2019 Posted May 14, 2019 4 hours ago, Brofessor said: Free Comic Book Day was 5/4/2019. There was a free Robotech Comic titled Event Horizon Chapter Zero. It is a new story arc starting with Chapter One in Issue 21 of Titan’s Robotech Comic Book. Spoiler Alert for Issue 17 March 2019 Reveal hidden contents The introduction seems to have errors. It states the SDF-1 belongs to the Zentreadi but it belongs to The Masters. It also states Miriya unleashed Invid warriors inside the SDF-1 as a distraction. However, it was Lazlo Zand who allowed the Invid through a portal and into the SDF-1. The introduction also refers to the onboard city as Macross City but it never really had a name until it was on Earth as New Macross City. Lisa decides to take the SDF-1 back to Mars. Dr. Lang is working on the omni-directional barrier system. Dr. Jean Grant is shown onboard the SDF-1. Evil Roy is killed and Good Roy seems to escape from Dr. Lazlo Zand. Kazianna Hesh and Kurita are shown. Kazianna proposes treason by micronizing and approaching the SDF-1 to join forces against the Invid. ????????????
Einherjar Posted May 15, 2019 Posted May 15, 2019 3 hours ago, 505thAirborne said: ???????????? That’s what some people call a mythos?
Old_Nash Posted May 16, 2019 Author Posted May 16, 2019 Happy FCBD Or no... A New Bold Super New Saga... Or a raping of Robotech II: The Sentinels There and Back Again What is the wrong with this page???? Everything Changed When the (another) Invid pre-Invasion Attacked... And all secrets barely revealed Oh God... why?
Podtastic Posted May 16, 2019 Posted May 16, 2019 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Old_Nash said: Happy FCBD Or no... Hide contents A New Bold Super New Saga... Or a raping of Robotech II: The Sentinels There and Back Again What is the wrong with this page???? Everything Changed When the (another) Invid pre-Invasion Attacked... And all secrets barely revealed Oh God... why? Well that Scrim Inorganic looks sort of ok, but not so much the Hellcats. They look too angular. Also, is it just me or do those Invid look a bit like Dire Wraiths? And something else that has been bugging me throughout this comic, why the heck is Lisa wearing those stupid boots as opposed to shoes? It looks inappropriate with a dress uniform. Edited May 16, 2019 by Podtastic
tekering Posted May 16, 2019 Posted May 16, 2019 3 hours ago, Podtastic said: Well that Scrim Inorganic looks sort of ok, but not so much the Hellcats. With all the aesthetic liberties they've taken with the designs, it's lucky they're even recognizable. One huge advantage Robotech has always had over original sci-fi properties in the US is the wealth of Japanese production designs to work from, depicting both functional-yet-futuristic human technology and exotic-yet-functional alien civilizations. Expanding the mythos for the Sentinels meant adapting a lot of existing designs to create new mecha that would nonetheless fit in with the established look, and Zor's battlefortress was no exception; it's usually depicted as a cross between the SDF-1 and a Zentraedi cruiser. But I've always wondered what the interior would've looked like. Would it have the cramped, industrial look that Zentraedi ships had, like a WWII battleship or a submarine? Or the organic, ethereal quality of a Robotech Masters mothership, with Romanesque columns and floating control stations? Would Zor have been influenced by Invid aesthetics? How much would individual design elements from Macross, Southern Cross or Mospeada have influenced the production design? I was particularly intrigued by what the control surfaces would've looked like... And now we know. The bridge of Zor's battlefortress looked like... ...a Boeing 747 console.
anime52k8 Posted May 16, 2019 Posted May 16, 2019 4 hours ago, Old_Nash said: Every time they dramatically reveal a character in this comic I'm just like "and who is this person supposed to be?"
anime52k8 Posted May 16, 2019 Posted May 16, 2019 I now realize the funky uniform and headset imply Dana. I was thrown off by the hair. and the face. and the malformed bone structure of her torso.
JB0 Posted May 16, 2019 Posted May 16, 2019 In fairness, I just opted for "one of the Sterling girls, because everything in Sentinels revolved around them."
Podtastic Posted May 16, 2019 Posted May 16, 2019 5 hours ago, tekering said: With all the aesthetic liberties they've taken with the designs, it's lucky they're even recognizable. Frustrating as hell. With modern technological aids they could have delivered exceptionally beautiful renditions of the classic designs. But instead they made them look like generic crap. Its like seeing a Ferrari Enzo chassis being redesigned by someone who thinks an AMC Gremlin looks just as good or better.
Seto Kaiba Posted May 16, 2019 Posted May 16, 2019 9 hours ago, Old_Nash said: Well, I am now officially convinced that Furman and co. hate this comic as much as we do and want out. They've been trying increasingly ridiculous ploys to get Robotech fans to stop reading, but they've drastically underestimated how low three and a half decades of hilarious failures have set the bar for quality in the Robotech fandom. This is their Hail Mary: introducing the single most hated character in Robotech in the hopes that she can drive away all all the remaining readers. 9 hours ago, Old_Nash said: A New Bold Super New Saga... Or a raping of Robotech II: The Sentinels It'd only be raping it if Sentinels were, y'know, actually good. Sentinels is as much an unwatchable/unreadable hot mess as everything else Robotech has done for botched sequels, so it's just homage. 1 hour ago, JB0 said: In fairness, I just opted for "one of the Sterling girls, because everything in Sentinels revolved around them." Nah, everything in the Sentinels dumpster fire revolved around Rick and Lisa, and to a lesser extent their unlikeable carbon copies Jack Baker and Karen Penn.
Knight26 Posted May 16, 2019 Posted May 16, 2019 Oh God, the End of the Circle? Are they F'n serious? That was the most stupid thing Robotech ever did, and I know that is saying something.
Podtastic Posted May 16, 2019 Posted May 16, 2019 54 minutes ago, Seto Kaiba said: Sentinels is as much an unwatchable Oh hell no, I thoroughly enjoyed the Invid attack on the Tiresian capital. There just wasn't enough of that.
Seto Kaiba Posted May 16, 2019 Posted May 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Knight26 said: Oh God, the End of the Circle? Are they F'n serious? That was the most stupid thing Robotech ever did, and I know that is saying something. You're surprised? At its very best, this comic has been an insipid mess of generic soap opera plot twists and they've been foreshadowing this time loop BS from the start with all of the subtlety of a half-brick to the head. FFS, when Hayes and Roy explore the ship at the start of the comic they find the corpses of its human crew from the future and the one that gives Hayes pause is strongly implied to be a future version of his daughter Lisa. The computers even already have QWERTY keyboards and speak English. 37 minutes ago, Podtastic said: Oh hell no, I thoroughly enjoyed the Invid attack on the Tiresian capital. There just wasn't enough of that. As we've noted on several previous occasions, your particular tastes are... unconventional.
Knight26 Posted May 16, 2019 Posted May 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, Seto Kaiba said: You're surprised? At its very best, this comic has been an insipid mess of generic soap opera plot twists and they've been foreshadowing this time loop BS from the start with all of the subtlety of a half-brick to the head. FFS, when Hayes and Roy explore the ship at the start of the comic they find the corpses of its human crew from the future and the one that gives Hayes pause is strongly implied to be a future version of his daughter Lisa. The computers even already have QWERTY keyboards and speak English. As we've noted on several previous occasions, your particular tastes are... unconventional. Oh yes, the foreshadowing was always there, but they did it even worse than In End of the Circle, at least in that they handed it over to Zor. IIRC The attack on Tyrol was the best part of Sentinels and looked like it received the most attention from the animators.
Roy Focker Posted May 16, 2019 Posted May 16, 2019 I don't know about you but I'm enjoying reading about the craziness of this comic. It sounds all over the place with a million nonsensical plot twists.
Chronocidal Posted May 16, 2019 Posted May 16, 2019 (edited) 46 minutes ago, Roy Focker said: I don't know about you but I'm enjoying reading about the craziness of this comic. It sounds all over the place with a million nonsensical plot twists. See, just this. It's like a timey-wimey buffet of tropes. It might be an unmitigated train wreck, but at least half of the cars are filled with glitter, cream pies, and clowns. Edited May 16, 2019 by Chronocidal
Einherjar Posted May 16, 2019 Posted May 16, 2019 27 minutes ago, Chronocidal said: See, just this. It's like a timey-wimey buffet of tropes. It might be an unmitigated train wreck, but at least half of the cars are filled with glitter, cream pies, and clowns. And space bears, since the novels are coming back with a vengeance.
Old_Nash Posted May 16, 2019 Author Posted May 16, 2019 13 hours ago, tekering said: I don't read the novels, but, this part it's a bitly diferent from Shadow Chronicles movie.
Einherjar Posted May 16, 2019 Posted May 16, 2019 And people are mad at the final season of Game of Thrones. Get over yourselves.
Bolt Posted May 16, 2019 Posted May 16, 2019 “Admiral” Rick Hunter looks like he was hitting the bottle pretty hard before doing that bridge scene..
JB0 Posted May 17, 2019 Posted May 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Einherjar said: And people are mad at the final season of Game of Thrones. Get over yourselves. Just because it isn't the worst possible thing doesn't mean it isn't still terrible and possibly a betrayal of the fans.
Chronocidal Posted May 17, 2019 Posted May 17, 2019 (edited) 26 minutes ago, JB0 said: Just because it isn't the worst possible thing doesn't mean it isn't still terrible and possibly a betrayal of the fans. To be entirely fair, I think the entire Robotech fanbase must be completely numb to that sort of betrayal by this point. GoT has about 20 years worth of shattered expectations to catch up with that level of disappointment. Edited May 17, 2019 by Chronocidal
Dynaman Posted May 17, 2019 Posted May 17, 2019 On the bright side, they toned down the teeth in this one.
JB0 Posted May 17, 2019 Posted May 17, 2019 4 hours ago, Chronocidal said: To be entirely fair, I think the entire Robotech fanbase must be completely numb to that sort of betrayal by this point. GoT has about 20 years worth of shattered expectations to catch up with that level of disappointment. Yeah. The Thronies are in the early stages, where they can be gravely upset by what sounds like their End of the Circle. With Robotech, all you can do is laugh.
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