Podtastic Posted February 10, 2019 Posted February 10, 2019 33 minutes ago, Seto Kaiba said: I know if I saw a book with cover art that badly drawn, there'd be no way I'd be willing to pick it up. Like the song goes, "it was acceptable in the 80's"... but today, you can find art of substantially higher quality from high schoolers on DeviantArt. Someone who doesn't know who Jason and John Waltrip are would be left to wonder if they farmed the cover out to an unpaid intern. Normally one shouldn't judge a book by its cover, but in comics the cover is what's supposed to promote the book. It won't matter how good or bad the contents are if the packaging screams "this is amateur hour". I mean, they are trying to market this book to someone besides just Robotech fans right? Right. But don't people also examine interior art before making a buy or don't buy decision? I don't buy a comic before I see what it's artwork is like.
Seto Kaiba Posted February 10, 2019 Posted February 10, 2019 14 minutes ago, Podtastic said: Right. But don't people also examine interior art before making a buy or don't buy decision? I don't buy a comic before I see what it's artwork is like. Granted, but the cover and/or title are what get your attention. The title's not going to grab anyone who's not already a Robotech fan, and that atrocious cover art isn't going to encourage many (if any) to pick it up outside of maybe morbid curiosity.
Bolt Posted February 10, 2019 Posted February 10, 2019 I admit I would do a double take seeing a RT comic at the shop. Generally,the cover would define any further interest after that. I might look thru it out of morbid curiosity.. Unfortunately, because it’s RT, I would tend to ignore it like the Archie and Scooby-Doo comics. But heck. If these guys are generating a fan base and people like it, more power to them.
RavenHawk Posted February 11, 2019 Posted February 11, 2019 10 hours ago, Seto Kaiba said: Granted, but the cover and/or title are what get your attention. The title's not going to grab anyone who's not already a Robotech fan, and that atrocious cover art isn't going to encourage many (if any) to pick it up outside of maybe morbid curiosity. I think that the standard covers are there to get people's attention, and draw in new readers. These alternate covers are usually shipped in much smaller quantities (like 1 copy of a special cover per 10 or 20 standard covers that a shop orders) and are usually sold by comic shops immediately marked up, aimed at collectors (i.e. someone who is an established fan and has an affection for the Waltrips, in this case).
JB0 Posted February 11, 2019 Posted February 11, 2019 12 hours ago, Seto Kaiba said: I mean, they are trying to market this book to someone besides just Robotech fans right? Based on the action-figure package covers, I'mma say no.
Old_Nash Posted March 6, 2019 Author Posted March 6, 2019 Robotech #18 Release today Preview https://www.previewsworld.com/Catalog/JAN192103
Old_Nash Posted March 6, 2019 Author Posted March 6, 2019 Bullet POints of 18 -Rick cry about "death" of Roy -Bodolzaa apear with Factory Satellite (!) and shoots in the Earth(!!) -Invid have micronians in inside qhat trying to replaces humanity(!!!) Gloval back to the death in a clone (!!!!)
Seto Kaiba Posted March 6, 2019 Posted March 6, 2019 36 minutes ago, Old_Nash said: Bodolzaa apear with Factory Satellite (!) and shoots in the Earth(!!) This week on Photoshop Sins...
tekering Posted March 6, 2019 Posted March 6, 2019 44 minutes ago, Old_Nash said: Gloval back to the death in a clone (!!!!) So, do they shave the clone in the tank...? Or does the cloning process replicate facial grooming?
sketchley Posted March 6, 2019 Posted March 6, 2019 Isn't that the remodelled Factory Satellite from VF-X2? I didn't know HG had the license for material from there...
Einherjar Posted March 6, 2019 Posted March 6, 2019 (edited) Wow, so no one in Titan Comics really had the balls to "kill" anyone really important in this series. Edited March 6, 2019 by Einherjar
RavenHawk Posted March 6, 2019 Posted March 6, 2019 I guess some people like it... doubt I'd agree, but hey... https://www.bleedingcool.com/2019/03/05/robotech-18-hints-that-theres-something-else-to-minmei-review/ I will say that I do dig the cover.
Seto Kaiba Posted March 6, 2019 Posted March 6, 2019 1 hour ago, sketchley said: I didn't know HG had the license for material from there... Flagrant copyright infringement has been a part of the Robotech comics experience almost from day one. It got especially bad in the 90's when the license was held by Academy Comics (1994-1996) and Antarctic Press (1997-1998). They would frequently "borrow" characters and designs from Macross sequels and other mecha anime of the period, and sometimes even steal entire plots from whatever the anime or sci-fi flavor-of-the-month was. My personal favorites there are: Academy's Robotech: the Misfits, which illegally used the VF-4 and Captain Higgins from Macross Plus. (Canceled after one issue, lol.) Antarctic's Robotech: Wings of Gibraltar, with its not-a-VF-19F-honest!, plentiful tracing of VF-1s from DYRL artbooks, and one character was literally Brent Spiner's character from Independence Day (traced, not redrawn, so he was in a different art style from everyone else for the entire book!). Antarctic's promo Robotech: Crystal Dreams for the vaporware video game by the same name, which was like 90% traced from DYRL art. 29 minutes ago, RavenHawk said: I guess some people like it... doubt I'd agree, but hey... https://www.bleedingcool.com/2019/03/05/robotech-18-hints-that-theres-something-else-to-minmei-review/ My only question is how much HG paid to have the review not just be a full page of gagging noises as the reader tries not to throw up.
Gerli Posted March 7, 2019 Posted March 7, 2019 10 hours ago, Seto Kaiba said: This week on Photoshop Sins... How to use Ctrl-C and Ctrl-V?
Podtastic Posted March 7, 2019 Posted March 7, 2019 Bullet POints of 18 -Rick cry about "death" of Roy -Bodolzaa apear with Factory Satellite (!) and shoots in the Earth(!!) -Invid have micronians in inside qhat trying to replaces humanity(!!!) Gloval back to the death in a clone (!!!!) That Invid Mecha is pure heresy! Good that Gloval is back, now they can put him back in command and reassign the temporary stand-in. After paying her a stand-in allowance of course.
Bolt Posted March 7, 2019 Posted March 7, 2019 Just so whacky... Is this the new story board & script for the live action RT..?!?
505thAirborne Posted March 7, 2019 Posted March 7, 2019 Seeing the factory and those cruisers for some reason reminded me of this.
Dynaman Posted March 7, 2019 Posted March 7, 2019 On that Photoshop sin picture - at least a couple of the Zentraidi ships that are farther away have been pasted in front of the closer ship. Even I wouldn't have made that bad a mistake.
Podtastic Posted March 14, 2019 Posted March 14, 2019 (edited) On that Photoshop sin picture - at least a couple of the Zentraidi ships that are farther away have been pasted in front of the closer ship. Even I wouldn't have made that bad a mistake. its a step backwards art wise .I would cheer due to them giving Khyron his hair back in this issue but they ruined it by having Zentraedi speech patterns, in the very same panels, that are completely wacked. The words "ass" and " screwed" have no business coming from Zentraedi elites such as Khyron and Azonia. , Edited March 14, 2019 by Podtastic
Seto Kaiba Posted March 14, 2019 Posted March 14, 2019 The words "ass" and " screwed" have no business coming from Zentraedi elites such as Khyron and Azonia. , It's almost like it's being written by someone that neither likes nor gives a crap about Robotech... Really, the best part of this comic is how few f*cks the people working on it give.
RavenHawk Posted March 14, 2019 Posted March 14, 2019 It's almost like it's being written by someone that neither likes nor gives a crap about Robotech... Really, the best part of this comic is how few f*cks the people working on it give. In fairness, I don't think Furman has given a crap about anything he's worked on in the last decade.
Einherjar Posted March 14, 2019 Posted March 14, 2019 (edited) In fairness, I don't think Furman has given a crap about anything he's worked on in the last decade. He has a Furmanism for that. ”Can I do less?” Edited March 14, 2019 by Einherjar Furmanism
Old_Nash Posted April 3, 2019 Author Posted April 3, 2019 (edited) Robotech 19# GOING DOWN!!! https://majorspoilers.com/2019/04/02/preview-robotech-19/ Lynn Kaifun Sailor Space Brawler The most ugly couple draw ever... Laslo and the Fokkers and Gloval return... Edited April 3, 2019 by Old_Nash
Seto Kaiba Posted April 3, 2019 Posted April 3, 2019 How is this crap still in print? HOW? Seriously, we're hitting levels of soap opera BS and M. Night Shyamalan hack twists that shouldn't be possible.
RavenHawk Posted April 3, 2019 Posted April 3, 2019 (edited) Not going to comment on the writing. I think that's been beaten to death (or should be...). As for the art, I think it's pretty decent. Not necessarily my cup of tea, but if you consider this an original creation (which, being so different from the original story, it might as well be) and thus not hamstrung by the original character designs, then I think that this artist is doing a pretty good job. Better than the story deserves. EDIT: Guess the whole thing hadn't loaded when I looked. I take back some of my previous statement: Khyron and Azonia look terrible, especially in the profile shot. Yes to the Neanderthals comment... or maybe some sort of bobble-head mutation. Edited April 3, 2019 by RavenHawk Ugh... took a closer look
Einherjar Posted April 3, 2019 Posted April 3, 2019 Wow, just vainglorious. I learn something new everyday here.
azrael Posted April 3, 2019 Posted April 3, 2019 They had to go back to the other artist, didn't they?
Chronocidal Posted April 3, 2019 Posted April 3, 2019 (edited) Judging by the return of Spacebieber, yep. I'm more amused at how the spy trio look like traced fashion models, and Kaifun manages to look like a cardboard cutout of a rejected sailor scout within the same panel. As far as the plot goes... I think it would actually work better in text form, so you didn't have those eye-gouging distractions going on all the time. It'd still be a mess, but I'm actually genuinely curious to see where this crazy train eventually goes. I'm also still hoping that at some point, they begin cloning so many copies of Focker that the SDF-1 is just overrun with them, they drive all the bars out of business, and then form a ridiculous drunken mecha legion to conquer the universe in search of more booze. Either that, or each successive clone becomes more and more mutated, and they eventually just start shoving all the mutations into a gym to keep track of them. Edit: Or even better.. as the Fockers get dumber, they just start reenacting Three Stooges bits. Lazlo: "Find Roy Focker.." Roy clone 1 and 2: "......" They each just point to the other. Edited April 3, 2019 by Chronocidal
mickyg Posted April 3, 2019 Posted April 3, 2019 All I know is, I keep coming back here to see what you all come up with. I mean the comic is one thing, but the commentary is just the best thing ever!
Bolt Posted April 3, 2019 Posted April 3, 2019 1 hour ago, mickyg said: All I know is, I keep coming back here to see what you all come up with. I mean the comic is one thing, but the commentary is just the best thing ever! Lol. Agreed. I could go on but you all are doing just fine.
anime52k8 Posted April 3, 2019 Posted April 3, 2019 (edited) 11 hours ago, Old_Nash said: Laslo and the Fokkers and Gloval return... I'm so confused, is that supposed to be Roy? Are there Roy clones now? Why did skynet make a terminator that looks like Freddie Mercury? Edited April 4, 2019 by anime52k8
tekering Posted April 4, 2019 Posted April 4, 2019 3 hours ago, anime52k8 said: Are there Roy clones now? Why did skynet make a terminator that looks like Freddie Mercury? Not "Skynet," but Lazlo Zand... and not "Terminators," just duplicates. "Clones" is equally inaccurate, because it's impossible to clone a hairstyle (or a mustache).* * Of course, the artists and/or writers probably just don't understand how cloning works.
RavenHawk Posted April 4, 2019 Posted April 4, 2019 Just now, tekering said: Of course, the artists and/or writers probably just don't understand how cloning works. Just cloning?
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