Kanedas Bike Posted March 31, 2020 Posted March 31, 2020 1 hour ago, Dobber said: Was that Harrison Ford as the voice over? Not sure. I thought I heard Mark Hamill's voice at one point, but it was hard to tell. -b. Quote
Chronocidal Posted March 31, 2020 Posted March 31, 2020 That did sound a lot like Ford. Also interesting to see the early cuts on some shots, since there were a few things we didn't see in the actual release. Probably removed for good reason, but I know I've read of a longer sideplot involving the temperature and safety of Echo Base, and I think it involved more wampas. Speaking off which, I didn't actually remember seeing the creature's claws when Luke was hanging from the ceiling either. Quote
derex3592 Posted March 31, 2020 Posted March 31, 2020 It was Ford. I have that trailer on my old Laserdisc box set. It was one of the very 1st ones for Empire. The originals for Star Wars (New Hope) were even worse...LOL. Trailers were reaally bad back then! Quote
Chronocidal Posted March 31, 2020 Posted March 31, 2020 2 hours ago, derex3592 said: It was Ford. I have that trailer on my old Laserdisc box set. It was one of the very 1st ones for Empire. The originals for Star Wars (New Hope) were even worse...LOL. Trailers were reaally bad back then! I mean, I can't actually call that trailer that bad, because it did its job, teasing a lot of things, but not really revealing any of the longer implications of the story. It was cheesy, sure, but it was still effective. I think the funniest bit was hearing Ford sound that utterly enthusiastic about anything. Quote
Kanedas Bike Posted March 31, 2020 Posted March 31, 2020 That trailer was terrible! If everyone that posts on this thread, were adults at the time you'd have ripped this thing apart. Anyone who says otherwise forgets that nostalgia is a very powerful drug. -b. Quote
jvmacross Posted March 31, 2020 Posted March 31, 2020 Another Screenrant PSA!.. https://screenrant.com/star-wars-rise-skywalker-kylo-knights-ren-origins/ Quote
jvmacross Posted March 31, 2020 Posted March 31, 2020 17 minutes ago, Chronocidal said: I think the funniest bit was hearing Ford sound that utterly enthusiastic about anything. Money is a great motivator...it made him come back for TROS! Quote
jvmacross Posted March 31, 2020 Posted March 31, 2020 https://www.polygon.com/star-wars/2020/3/31/21200863/star-wars-rise-of-skywalker-changes-art-book-alternate-deleted-scenes-scripts-duel-of-the-fates I have all of the "Art of" Star Wars books and have enjoyed them throughout the years.....so had to get this one too. Just checked and it's "Out for Delivery" Quote
sketchley Posted April 1, 2020 Posted April 1, 2020 11 hours ago, Chronocidal said: That did sound a lot like Ford. Also interesting to see the early cuts on some shots, since there were a few things we didn't see in the actual release. Probably removed for good reason, but I know I've read of a longer sideplot involving the temperature and safety of Echo Base, and I think it involved more wampas. The craziest shot that they removed was C3P0 removing a "danger! Wampa" warning sign from one of the doors during the Imperial invasion! I think you can see that shot in one of the trailers for the initial release. Quote
Bolt Posted April 1, 2020 Posted April 1, 2020 https://japantoday.com/category/entertainment/actor-andrew-jack-dies-of-covid-19-at-76-in-britain Quote
TangledThorns Posted May 5, 2020 Posted May 5, 2020 (edited) Watched RoS last night for the first time on Disney+ and holy F it about killed all my love for Star Wars. I'm glad I didn't pay to see it in the theater. The story was glorified fan fiction. The biggest sin was the cheap way they brought back Palpatine, gave him a grandchild and turned him into a Weather Dominator. Edited May 5, 2020 by TangledThorns Quote
jenius Posted May 5, 2020 Posted May 5, 2020 3 hours ago, TangledThorns said: Watched RoS last night for the first time on Disney+ and holy F it about killed all my love for Star Wars. I'm glad I didn't pay to see it in the theater. The story was glorified fan fiction. The biggest sin was the cheap way they brought back Palpatine, gave him a grandchild and turned him into a Weather Dominator. What's so mind-boggling to me is that some of that stuff could have worked fine.... if they had used the three movies to introduce and build upon it. There should have been hints of Palpatine in the first movie... then the exposure of Palpatine in the second movie, then the defeat of Palpatine in the third movie. Even plot elements I don't like would have worked better if they had built upon them from the beginning. Rey's parentage, like it or not, is all over the map. Again, if they wanted it to be Palps the whole time, hint at it, expose it, then confront it. Set it up so Kylo is a conflicted villain, Rey has to go dark side to kill Palps, then Kylo and Luke have to team up to defeat dark side Rey. Just spit balling but jeeze, if they had used a three movie long canvas instead of treating each movie like something that only needed to be tethered to a previous movie, they could have done so much better. Quote
Mog Posted May 5, 2020 Posted May 5, 2020 4 hours ago, TangledThorns said: The biggest sin was the cheap way they brought back Palpatine, gave him a grandchild and turned him into a Weather Dominator. Hey! Don’t insult the GI Joe Weather Dominator like that! Watching those old Joe episodes, you realize now just how cheesy the show could be. Quote
tekering Posted May 5, 2020 Posted May 5, 2020 Having grown up with Ewoks and Droids, I couldn't possibly have imagined a world where cartoons like Clone Wars and Rebels would be so much better than Star Wars movies... Quote
Mommar Posted May 5, 2020 Posted May 5, 2020 6 hours ago, TangledThorns said: Watched RoS last night for the first time on Disney+ and holy F it about killed all my love for Star Wars. I'm glad I didn't pay to see it in the theater. The story was glorified fan fiction. The biggest sin was the cheap way they brought back Palpatine, gave him a grandchild and turned him into a Weather Dominator. Why would it kill your love for Star Wars? The good movies still exist. Quote
Thom Posted May 5, 2020 Posted May 5, 2020 5 hours ago, jenius said: What's so mind-boggling to me is that some of that stuff could have worked fine.... if they had used the three movies to introduce and build upon it. There should have been hints of Palpatine in the first movie... then the exposure of Palpatine in the second movie, then the defeat of Palpatine in the third movie. Even plot elements I don't like would have worked better if they had built upon them from the beginning. Rey's parentage, like it or not, is all over the map. Again, if they wanted it to be Palps the whole time, hint at it, expose it, then confront it. Set it up so Kylo is a conflicted villain, Rey has to go dark side to kill Palps, then Kylo and Luke have to team up to defeat dark side Rey. Just spit balling but jeeze, if they had used a three movie long canvas instead of treating each movie like something that only needed to be tethered to a previous movie, they could have done so much better. I love your spit-balling there, as that - unfortunately - shows more thought in a few minutes than they did during all the months of preproduction. Planning, planning and planning... As in not enough of it. I liked the movies, at least TFA and TRoS, but it is only like and not love. Seeing TRoS after TLJ is like looking at two different movie arcs, showing just how far one director went opposite the other. Though I like TRoS more, I think it would have been better if JJ had not resurrected the Emperor, which feels like a desperate grab at a fraying thread, and built upon TLJ while going back to the 'magic boxes' he left in TFA. The only real way of bringing Palpy back would be to have TLJ actually having shown he was on the rise again, rather then blurbing it in the opening crawl of TRoS. They should have dropped Palpatine entirely rather then tying to cram two movies worth into the final of the trilogy. Which means that they should have planned a full arc from the start. Instead, they almost treated it like it was an anthology. A little too late to change anything now though. All is done. Quote
Graham Posted May 6, 2020 Posted May 6, 2020 At least the awfulness of episodes 8 and 9 were balanced out by the amazingness of The Mandalorian and Clone Wars Season 7. Quote
pengbuzz Posted May 6, 2020 Posted May 6, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, Thom said: I love your spit-balling there, as that - unfortunately - shows more thought in a few minutes than they did during all the months of preproduction. Planning, planning and planning... As in not enough of it. I liked the movies, at least TFA and TRoS, but it is only like and not love. Seeing TRoS after TLJ is like looking at two different movie arcs, showing just how far one director went opposite the other. Though I like TRoS more, I think it would have been better if JJ had not resurrected the Emperor, which feels like a desperate grab at a fraying thread, and built upon TLJ while going back to the 'magic boxes' he left in TFA. The only real way of bringing Palpy back would be to have TLJ actually having shown he was on the rise again, rather then blurbing it in the opening crawl of TRoS. They should have dropped Palpatine entirely rather then tying to cram two movies worth into the final of the trilogy. Which means that they should have planned a full arc from the start. Instead, they almost treated it like it was an anthology. A little too late to change anything now though. All is done. It could have been a bad dream after Luke ate some porg that had gone bad... Edited May 6, 2020 by pengbuzz Quote
Mog Posted May 6, 2020 Posted May 6, 2020 32 minutes ago, Graham said: At least the awfulness of episodes 8 and 9 were balanced out by the amazingness of The Mandalorian and Clone Wars Season 7. You were the Chosen Franchise! You were supposed to increase the fanbase, not leave it divided in shambles! Quote
Bolt Posted May 6, 2020 Posted May 6, 2020 20 hours ago, tekering said: Having grown up with Ewoks and Droids, I couldn't possibly have imagined a world where cartoons like Clone Wars and Rebels would be so much better than Star Wars movies... So true.. Quote
Graham Posted May 8, 2020 Posted May 8, 2020 On 5/6/2020 at 10:35 PM, Bolt said: So true.. Very. Quote
TehPW Posted May 8, 2020 Posted May 8, 2020 On 5/5/2020 at 10:36 PM, Mog said: You were the Chosen Franchise! You were supposed to increase the fanbase, not leave it divided in shambles! THAT sh*t. That's what is true. Quote
Dynaman Posted May 8, 2020 Posted May 8, 2020 On 5/5/2020 at 2:07 PM, tekering said: Having grown up with Ewoks and Droids, I couldn't possibly have imagined a world where cartoons like Clone Wars and Rebels would be so much better than Star Wars movies... Add even more to your argument by including that first Boba Fett appearance in the Holiday Special - knowing the whole time that particular cartoon was bookended by the WORST live action Star Wars ever made. Quote
tekering Posted May 22, 2020 Posted May 22, 2020 I can't wait for this to come out! Looks awesome. May 21, 1980 can't get here fast enough. Quote
derex3592 Posted May 22, 2020 Posted May 22, 2020 HA! I need to watch Star Wars and Empire this month. Fact. Quote
Black Valkyrie Posted May 22, 2020 Posted May 22, 2020 Gonna watch it this weekend, the original theatrical version that came in the 2004 DVD boxset, my fave movie of all time, in one word ... perfect. Quote
Dobber Posted May 22, 2020 Posted May 22, 2020 2 hours ago, Black Valkyrie said: Gonna watch it this weekend, the original theatrical version that came in the 2004 DVD boxset, my fave movie of all time, in one word ... perfect. Speaking of the original version...I so miss the line “Bring my shuttle” from Empire. Vader’s disappointment and anger just comes through so simply in that line. Instead it was completely lost with the long winded “Alert my star destroyer to prepare for my arrival” in the SE’s. Chris Quote
derex3592 Posted May 23, 2020 Posted May 23, 2020 @Dobber -- THANK YOU!!! No one else I've met complains about that change but I HATED it!!! He was SO pissed sounding in the original! Honestly, I've forgotten what other changes were made to Empire for the Blu-Ray box set, guess I'll find out this weekend! Other than that line, I don't remember having toooo much of a problem with Empire's mostly minor changes. Jedi on the hand.....ohhhh dear. Quote
Chronocidal Posted May 23, 2020 Posted May 23, 2020 HAH.. only thing missing there is that Shooting Stars theme Agreed about the changes in Empire, it really came off the best of the bunch I think, in terms of the Special Editions. Biggest change I think was the redone holographic Emperor. I'm not a huge fan of it, since it didn't match the ROTJ emperor's look, but the dialogue differences weren't anything bad, as I recall. Other main ones I remember were the wampa scene (meh), Vader's line about his shuttle, and Luke's joke to R2-D2 about him being lucky he doesn't taste very good after getting spat out by the swamp creature. Mostly just dumb, but nothing really offensive to see. On the flip-side of that, I think the changes made to the Cloud City sequences with all the added exterior shots, lighting, and windows really did add something to those scenes. Quote
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