The Nintendo Switch

[mikeszekely]

Rumor, so take it with a grain of salt, but there's some buzz going around that preorders will open for the Switch 2 on Wednesday, April 2nd at 10:00am EDT.

[Scyla]

  On 3/24/2025 at 4:13 PM, mikeszekely said:

Rumor, so take it with a grain of salt, but there's some buzz going around that preorders will open for the Switch 2 on Wednesday, April 2nd at 10:00am EDT.

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I‘m unsure when and if I should replace my OLED Switch. I still have a big backlog of games and the performance of the Switch never was a concern to me since all the indie games I played run mighty fine. 

I’m not a fan of TotK (but loved BotW) so I’m not that excited for a 3D Zelda game but a Mario Odyssey 2 or M:Prime 4 might make a purchase worthwhile. Mario Kart games play mostly the same for me so Mario Kart 9 doesn’t have a big draw for me.

Edited March 24 by Scyla

[Mommar]

I'm buying one Day 1.

[azrael]

  On 3/24/2025 at 7:02 PM, Scyla said:

I‘m unsure when and if I should replace my OLED Switch. I still have a big backlog of games and the performance of the Switch never was a concern to me since all the indie games I played run mighty fine.

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It's probably not worth it to upgrade if you have the Switch OLED. While the Switch 2's screen is likely a regular LCD with 120Hz, it won't look as nice as the OLED.

[Mommar]

The OLED doesn't look better anyway, just yellow tinted when next to a regular LCD.  

[Hikuro]

I'm going to hold off. I have enough on my plate as it is, and I got more than enough switch games and other games on other consoles to play. I'm gonna dive in hot and heavy like I said when the switch first released a decade ago. Plus this'll allow for any kind of bugs and faults to be corrected later on. 

[mikeszekely]

  On 3/24/2025 at 9:50 PM, azrael said:

It's probably not worth it to upgrade if you have the Switch OLED. While the Switch 2's screen is likely a regular LCD with 120Hz, it won't look as nice as the OLED.

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So it's a choice between the vibrant colors and rich blacks of an OLED screen on a potato, or an LCD on a less-underpowered device (that likely incorporates DLSS)?  Bye, Switch OLED.

  On 3/24/2025 at 9:37 PM, Mommar said:

I'm buying one Day 1.

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Same.  It's a Nintendo console.  Even if I do 90% of my gaming on PC I still love most of Nintendo's first-party games, and I'm confident that there'll be something I want to play at launch.

[Big s]

  On 3/24/2025 at 10:49 PM, Hikuro said:

I'm going to hold off. I have enough on my plate as it is, and I got more than enough switch games and other games on other consoles to play. I'm gonna dive in hot and heavy like I said when the switch first released a decade ago. Plus this'll allow for any kind of bugs and faults to be corrected later on. 

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I barely got into the whole switch thing. So I’m ok with waiting. Besides, I guess Assault suit Leynos 2 is now available , so I’m gonna probably play the heck out of it.

[azrael]

  On 1/16/2025 at 6:33 PM, azrael said:

I'm probably game as well. But I'll wait closer to end of year so bugs can be worked out.

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Me? ☝️

[Mog]

So, have they done anything to fix the joy-con drift issue?

That was one of the things that kinda killed the fun for me.

[Seto Kaiba]

  On 3/25/2025 at 2:41 AM, Mog said:

So, have they done anything to fix the joy-con drift issue?

That was one of the things that kinda killed the fun for me.

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Various media outlets like Polygon have reported that the Switch 2's joycons switched to Hall effect sensors, which should eliminate the stick drift issue the Switch 1's analog sticks had.

[davidwhangchoi]

 

[davidwhangchoi]

  On 3/24/2025 at 4:13 PM, mikeszekely said:

Rumor, so take it with a grain of salt, but there's some buzz going around that preorders will open for the Switch 2 on Wednesday, April 2nd at 10:00am EDT.

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bestbuy canada confirming your post

 

Metroid Prime 4 Beyond revealed

 

Edited March 27 by davidwhangchoi

[mikeszekely]

  On 3/27/2025 at 2:14 PM, davidwhangchoi said:

Metroid Prime 4 Beyond revealed

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Interesting, considering that reliable leakers were saying it wasn't going to be shown. I'm also surprised that it looks like it's still coming to the Switch 1. It's a must-buy for me (I wish 2-3 would get ports, too).

Dragon Quest I+II, Raidou Remastered, the Marvel beat 'em up, and that Pac Man metroidvania are high on my wish list  too, but I'll get those on PC.

The digital game card feature seems cool, should make it easier to share games with my kid.

[Mommar]

  On 3/27/2025 at 2:14 PM, davidwhangchoi said:

bestbuy canada confirming your post

 

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Except not.  Other outlets are saying the 9th.

 

  On 3/27/2025 at 2:48 PM, mikeszekely said:

Interesting, considering that reliable leakers were saying it wasn't going to be shown. I'm also surprised that it looks like it's still coming to the Switch 1. It's a must-buy for me (I wish 2-3 would get ports, too).

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It could be (SHOULD BE) one of the "Switch 2 Enabled" games mentioned in some of the promo material.

[Mommar]

They have Delta in the new Super Robot Wars.

 

[mikeszekely]

Mario Forza Kart Horizon.

Ah, so there will be a switch 2 version of Metroid Prime 4 after all. 

I may be the only person on earth looking forward to a new Daemon X Machina game. 

Yes to more Hyrule Warriors. 

I'm glad that the Switch 2 looks like it's going to have strong 3rd party support, it's just that most of it looks like games you could already buy on PS4/5/PC.

Edited Wednesday at 01:48 PM by mikeszekely

[Old_Nash_II]

I liked Bravely Default HD, it's a shame that Golden Sun was once again forgotten at the party...

[Tking22]

Honestly, I was expecting $400, think I'll wait at $450, nothing at launch looks like anything I need. 

[mikeszekely]

  On 4/2/2025 at 2:44 PM, Tking22 said:

Honestly, I was expecting $400, think I'll wait at $450, nothing at launch looks like anything I need. 

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Oof. $399 was pricey but doable, but $50 less than a PS5 for a console that might be as powerful as a PS4 is pushing it.

EDIT: the $500 bundle with Mario Kart is looking like a better deal since Nintendo quietly announced that Mario Kart World will have an $80 price tag 

Edited Wednesday at 03:03 PM by mikeszekely

[azrael]

Here's the TLDR version of this morning's live stream:

As well as the full specs page. I wanna see a teardown of this.

Leaks say the CPU is based off the "Orin"-SoC, which is based off Ampere (that's the RTX 30-series generation).

  On 4/2/2025 at 2:50 PM, mikeszekely said:

Oof. $399 was pricey but doable, but $50 less than a PS5 for a console that might be as powerful as a PS4 is pushing it.

EDIT: the $500 bundle with Mario Kart is looking like a better deal since Nintendo quietly announced that Mario Kart World will have an $80 price tag 

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*almost spit takes coffee* Yeah, I'll wait for Black Friday or the holiday season to grab one. You early adopters can bug test this.

[Valkyrie Hunter D]

Not the Bloodborne sequel I wanted, but it looks awfully close:

[Old_Nash_II]

  On 4/2/2025 at 5:13 PM, Valkyrie Hunter D said:

Not the Bloodborne sequel I wanted, but it looks awfully close:

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An acquaintance said that it might be like what happened with Demon's Souls for Dark Souls.
Bloodbourne is exclusive to Sony, and they made this for the rest

[Mommar]

It gets better microSD cards don't work, you need microSD Express now.  And a 1TB E press is $200.

[davidwhangchoi]

  On 4/2/2025 at 5:13 PM, Valkyrie Hunter D said:

Not the Bloodborne sequel I wanted, but it looks awfully close:

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looks hot!

[Mommar]

  On 4/2/2025 at 1:24 PM, mikeszekely said:

I may be the only person on earth looking forward to a new Daemon X Machina game.

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In theory I do, but they'll have to really fix the gameplay in order to win me back.

[mikeszekely]

  On 4/3/2025 at 3:53 AM, Mommar said:

In theory I do, but they'll have to really fix the gameplay in order to win me back.

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That's kind of what I mean. So many people seemed to complain about the first one, but I unironically thought it was pretty good.

Hope it comes to PC. Switch 2 is coming in a little pricier than I expected, and that's before a bunch of new tariffs are set to go into place, plus Nintendo thinks at least some games should retail for $80. I'm thinking I might just splurge on new PC hardware instead.

[davidwhangchoi]

i'm looking at the mario cart bundle. seeing that mario cart is looking to be 80 dollars. 

 

[Tking22]

Jesus, $80 for some digital games, $90 for physical? And the physical literally isn't even a cartridge with the game on it, it's just a box with a code in it, meaning it's still digital, but you get a box, for $90? Nintendo will get away with it I'm sure, it's Nintendo, doubt I'll be buying in anytime soon, looks cool and all, some solid games for sure and real third party support, but Nintendo can frakk right off with their continued nonsense. 

[Chronocidal]

Ouch.  Yeah, hard pass until some sense comes to this mess, that's just insane.

If I need Metroid that badly, I'll probably just pick it up on a secondhand older model.

Looks like PC is just where everything will stay for the foreseeable future.

[Mommar]

  On 4/3/2025 at 2:50 PM, Tking22 said:

Jesus, $80 for some digital games, $90 for physical? And the physical literally isn't even a cartridge with the game on it, it's just a box with a code in it, meaning it's still digital, but you get a box, for $90? Nintendo will get away with it I'm sure, it's Nintendo, doubt I'll be buying in anytime soon, looks cool and all, some solid games for sure and real third party support, but Nintendo can frakk right off with their continued nonsense. 

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There's nothing explicitely saying there's $80 for a digital game or $90 for a download code.  You pay $50 with the bundle for Kart World or $80 for physical.  That's it.  There are already plenty of overpriced digital games on Steam as well.  This isn't a new situation unique to Nintendo, especially given Rockstar has already said GTA6 is going to be $100.

[Tking22]

  On 4/3/2025 at 4:28 PM, Mommar said:

There's nothing explicitely saying there's $80 for a digital game or $90 for a download code.  You pay $50 with the bundle for Kart World or $80 for physical.  That's it.  There are already plenty of overpriced digital games on Steam as well.  This isn't a new situation unique to Nintendo, especially given Rockstar has already said GTA6 is going to be $100.

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Rockstar said GTA VI could be $100, now Nintendo set a new precedent, and if I was Rockstar, I'd certainly be thinking why not? Also.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2025/04/02/nintendo-switch-2-flips-the-switch-on-80-90-games/

Not all Switch 2 games will be $80 or $90, but some absolutely will be, I'd guess all Nintendo first party titles, or since it's Nintendo, whichever ones they feel like charging that much for depending on how shitty they feel that day. Mario Cart is merely one example, getting a discount buying it bundled is great, but if you don't the price is what it is, too much IMO. Also, also.

https://www.gamesindustry.biz/some-physical-nintendo-switch-2-games-will-be-download-only-game-key-cards

Physical games are a code in a box, for $10 more when they decide to charge this nonsense. I don't care about Steam, Steam is a mess of shovelware, pure garbage, and nonsense, it shouldn't be compared to Nintendo getting blatantly absurd with their pricing. If you're okay with all this more power to you, the more this kind of bullshit gets normalized and people try to justify it the worse it will get, Nintendo will learn and change nothing, and bottom line, Nintendo is setting a new standard for absurd pricing for mainstream games.

I'm not new in thinking and feeling this way, since yesterday people have been, rightfully, blowing up about this. these prices are awful, Nintendo sucks and has for a good while as far as customer good will goes, they coast by on their IPs but they are worse then Sony and Microsoft as far as games companies go, that's how I feel bottom line.

[Scyla]

  On 4/3/2025 at 5:05 PM, Tking22 said:

Rockstar said GTA VI could be $100, now Nintendo set a new precedent, and if I was Rockstar, I'd certainly be thinking why not? Also.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2025/04/02/nintendo-switch-2-flips-the-switch-on-80-90-games/

Not all Switch 2 games will be $80 or $90, but some absolutely will be, I'd guess all Nintendo first party titles, or since it's Nintendo, whichever ones they feel like charging that much for depending on how shitty they feel that day. Mario Cart is merely one example, getting a discount buying it bundled is great, but if you don't the price is what it is, too much IMO. Also, also.

https://www.gamesindustry.biz/some-physical-nintendo-switch-2-games-will-be-download-only-game-key-cards

Physical games are a code in a box, for $10 more when they decide to charge this nonsense. I don't care about Steam, Steam is a mess of shovelware, pure garbage, and nonsense, it shouldn't be compared to Nintendo getting blatantly absurd with their pricing. If you're okay with all this more power to you, the more this kind of bullshit gets normalized and people try to justify it the worse it will get, Nintendo will learn and change nothing, and bottom line, Nintendo is setting a new standard for absurd pricing for mainstream games.

I'm not new in thinking and feeling this way, since yesterday people have been, rightfully, blowing up about this. these prices are awful, Nintendo sucks and has for a good while as far as customer good will goes, they coast by on their IPs but they are worse then Sony and Microsoft as far as games companies go, that's how I feel bottom line.

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But the required download is nothing new for Switch games no? Games like the Bio Shock collection or some of the Final Fantasy releases (like FFX/X2) required you to download game (or part of the game) if it was too big for the cartridge. 

I think it will be the same for some Switch 2 games if I understood the article correctly.

I don’t think that this is a smart move by Nintendo given that one of the unique selling points of the Switch (1) was that you can have a physical game collection that you can just boot up like with video game consoles of old. At least to me.

I guess there is always Limited Run Games if they plan to extend that practice to games that would fit on a cartridge.

[Tking22]

  On 4/3/2025 at 7:01 PM, Scyla said:

But the required download is nothing new for Switch games no? Games like the Bio Shock collection or some of the Final Fantasy releases (like FFX/X2) required you to download game (or part of the game) if it was too big for the cartridge. 

I think it will be the same for some Switch 2 games if I understood the article correctly.

I don’t think that this is a smart move by Nintendo given that one of the unique selling points of the Switch (1) was that you can have a physical game collection that you can just boot up like with video game consoles of old. At least to me.

I guess there is always Limited Run Games if they plan to extend that practice to games that would fit on a cartridge.

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Some third party games required a download as well, and only had partial data on the cartridge, or as much data as the cartridge could fit like you mentioned, and if I remember right, all third party only, not first party Nintendo. Nintendo's first party titles always required an update, that's just how it is these days, but you could just pop a game in, install it, then run it even without an update the majority of the time. 

Unfortunately it's another vague detail, "some" games will be a totally digital download, and apparently "some" games will have partial data on the physical insert key, apparently each box will specify if a game requires an additional download as well. No word on if all third party games will require an additional download, or if they'll go the Series X/PS5 route and just have 50-100MB on the "key" then make you just download the entire game.

I'm also having a hard time finding which actual Nintendo first party games will require a download as well, as you mentioned I'd expect Nintendo first party titles to be on cartridge/key like Switch 1, but I guess we'll see. The idea of not having cartridges I can just pop in and have the whole game on ready to go sounds awful, especially when advertised as "physical" versions of the game. If people are basically just using the "key" in these physical games as a download token do they still need to be inserted even though the majority, or possibly all of the data, will be digitally downloaded and not actually running off the physical key/cart? Will the "key" in the box even be necessary to insert once you download the game?

It just feels like following Ubisoft in one of the worst gaming trends, you own nothing, you only pay for access to a license, now that's the case even if you buy "physical". 

[azrael]

  On 4/3/2025 at 7:47 PM, Tking22 said:

It just feels like following Ubisoft in one of the worst gaming trends, you own nothing, you only pay for access to a license, now that's the case even if you buy "physical". 

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SaaS (Software-as-a-Service) has been the model for of the tech industry for a while. Gaming has been the one area that's been lagging behind on it.