ok one more mod to Smokescreen

[Solscud007]

I tried to use the stock stars but I messed up so I took the blue "I" from my diecast (where I get all my other parts) and did this.

[Solscud007]

here it is in car mode

I have too much time on my hands haha

Edited January 7, 2004 by Solscud007

[Mr.Sci-Fi]

Nice but it needs something in there. Are you going to do the other vent's more acurate?

[Mechamaniac]

He needs a Macrossworld.com sticker somewhere!

[Solscud007]

Yeah I know it need something but not sure what. I couldnt find the right texture. I'll find one eventually. Im thinking of jsut painting the upper grill on the hood flat black.

[Kin]

Does the Subaru team use energon as nitrogen?

[Winkle]

Wow that looks great, love the stickers too.

Does that thing have a gigantic coffee-can exhaust?

[Opus]

Does that thing have a gigantic coffee-can exhaust?

It's a rally car not a rice racer. <_<

[David Hingtgen]

Hard to tell the difference sometimes. I mean, it is a Japanese sports sedan with a few body mods, big new spoiler, hood scoop, bright flashy gaudy paint, sponsor markings, etc.

[Vostok 7]

Hard to tell the difference sometimes.  I mean, it is a Japanese sports sedan with a few body mods, big new spoiler, hood scoop, bright flashy gaudy paint, sponsor markings, etc. 

Yes, but how many ricemobiles can do 120 on a gravel road and four wheel drift around hairpins at highspeed?

That's what I thought.

And that's not much of a body kit. It's more subtle than the WRX's stock bumper.

Vostok 7

Edited January 8, 2004 by Vostok 7

[David Hingtgen]

I did say a FEW body mods

And performance is irrelevant to its looks. Rally racers based on Japanese cars often look very similar to heavily riced-out Japanese cars. (Whereas you'll never see a modern street Pontiac that looks like a NASCAR Pontiac)

I mean, those "fake" Lamborghini's look awfully similar to the real ones, even if they do have a Fiero's chassis and suspension, and maybe a V-6...

And since Smokecreen is only a "shell" of a car (with seats and a dash), his external appearance is what matters. And he looks ricey, because ricers try to copy the real racers.

Edited January 8, 2004 by David Hingtgen

[Vostok 7]

I did say a FEW body mods

And performance is irrelevant to its looks. Rally racers based on Japanese cars often look very similar to heavily riced-out Japanese cars. (Whereas you'll never see a modern street Pontiac that looks like a NASCAR Pontiac)

I mean, those "fake" Lamborghini's look awfully similar to the real ones, even if they do have a Fiero's chassis and suspension, and maybe a V-6...

And since Smokecreen is only a "shell" of a car (with seats and a dash), his external appearance is what matters. And he looks ricey, because ricers try to copy the real racers.

That's alot of thinking for me, man.

Racey may look ricey (that is the point after all) but what counts to me is performance.

Vostok 7

[David Hingtgen]

Actually, I think it's ricey looks racey, not the other way around.

Performance is always good, but for me, looks beat performance. (I'd rather have an 85-87 Countach above any other car in the world, even if by today's performance standards it's not spectacular, only good, and met by factory-fresh cars costing 1/7 as much) And I feel '97 Camaros are superior to all other years, looks-wise.

[yellowlightman]

I did say a FEW body mods

And performance is irrelevant to its looks. Rally racers based on Japanese cars often look very similar to heavily riced-out Japanese cars. (Whereas you'll never see a modern street Pontiac that looks like a NASCAR Pontiac)

All WRC cars look like that, not just the Japanese ones. When you have sponsors paying you millions of dollars to drive around in the dirt, you gotta advertise. The reason you don't see NASCAR street-counterparts trying to be like they're racing brothers is because who want's to drive around with a giant VIAGRA logo or Carrot Top face on the hood of your car? C'mon, even Pontiac driver's have some taste...

*ducks*

[UN Spacy]

I think you new some kind of wide body mod the make the wheels look less "noticable".

[David Hingtgen]

Trying to clarify my point:

Yes, all rally cars have "that look". But only the ones made from Japanese cars often have "copies" (usually riceified) running around on the streets here. I mean, you don't usually see a steet Volkswagen looking like that, despite there being rally racing versions of them. Many many cars have racing versions. But only the JP Rally cars are copied, by ricers.

[yellowlightman]

Trying to clarify my point:

Yes, all rally cars have "that look". But only the ones made from Japanese cars often have "copies" (usually riceified) running around on the streets here. I mean, you don't usually see a steet Volkswagen looking like that, despite there being rally racing versions of them. Many many cars have racing versions. But only the JP Rally cars are copied, by ricers.

Oh... Okay, I get what you're saying. Thing is, I don't think riceboys copy the rally car look per se. The generic plastered with stickers look could attributed to almost any type of motorsport, and most people don't even knwo what teh hell rally is. With the riceboy crowd drag racing and drifting is popular, real motorsports like WRC and DTM aren't very very well known.

[MrDisco]

ok call me blind but other then the tires what were the mods you did exactly ?

[David Hingtgen]

We really could use a sequel to Sega Rally 2, especially with "Smokescreen" in it. Build awareness, etc.

[yellowlightman]

We really could use a sequel to Sega Rally 2, especially with "Smokescreen" in it. Build awareness, etc.

Would he be fully transformable? Maybe a sort fo Sega Rally 2/Virtual On combo.

[Yohsho]

That' would be cool, just flip a toggle button and then grab the Virtual On sticks and start taking out the competition.

I guess you guys wouldn't like me trying to make a Focus Rally car then?

[Eternal_D]

haha, those tires stickin out make it look like one of those ugly low riders with tiny wheels which stick out about half a foot from the car.

the no-grill thing looks cool tho.

[yellowlightman]

I guess you guys wouldn't like me trying to make a Focus Rally car then?

The real Ford Focus WRC cars have a hard enough time racing and actually winning... they should work on being able to do that before trying they're hand at being robots.

A Lancia Statros or Integrale on the other hand...

[Solscud007]

ok call me blind but other then the tires what were the mods you did exactly ?

As you mentioned. Plus a detailed engine bayand interior stuff. My steering wheel has the momo badge on it. I have a gauge decal so the gauges look more real. And I added a rear view mirror. Small time stuff.

[Solscud007]

Oh hey David Hingten,

I saw a guy with a ford focus hatchback rallied out. He copied the rally car decals mostly.

Oh dont forget about the Nascar Malibu chevy. It has the color scheme of nascar

[Hoptimus]

We really could use a sequel to Sega Rally 2, especially with "Smokescreen" in it.    Build awareness, etc.

Would he be fully transformable? Maybe a sort fo Sega Rally 2/Virtual On combo.

You can race the Impreza in the most excellent Rallisport Challenge on Xbox.

RalliSport Challenge 2 is coming in March 2004 with LIVE support. I will be racing my Impreza on there if there are any takers.

[yellowlightman]

Oh hey David Hingten,

I saw a guy with a ford focus hatchback rallied out. He copied the rally car decals mostly.

Oh dont forget about the Nascar Malibu chevy. It has the color scheme of nascar

I think you mean Monte Carlo, not Malibu. The Malibu's are 4-door only. Oh the things I've learned working at a Chevy dealership... <_<

[pfunk]

Oh hey David Hingten,

I saw a guy with a ford focus hatchback rallied out. He copied the rally car decals mostly.

Oh dont forget about the Nascar Malibu chevy. It has the color scheme of nascar

I think you mean Monte Carlo, not Malibu. The Malibu's are 4-door only. Oh the things I've learned working at a Chevy dealership...

Look at the tarus (no production 2 door) and the intrepid (same)

[yellowlightman]

Oh hey David Hingten,

I saw a guy with a ford focus hatchback rallied out. He copied the rally car decals mostly.

Oh dont forget about the Nascar Malibu chevy. It has the color scheme of nascar

I think you mean Monte Carlo, not Malibu. The Malibu's are 4-door only. Oh the things I've learned working at a Chevy dealership...

Look at the tarus (no production 2 door) and the intrepid (same)

No, I'm talking about the production NASCAR Monte Carlo, basically a Monte Carlo (SS maybe?) plastered with NASCAR stickers. Not the actual NASCAR racing cars.

And yeah, I know how they use non-production cars for NASCAR. I guess they forgot the part about them being stock cars, but then again they forgot the part about racing too (ovals suck).

[David Hingtgen]

Taurus, Intrepid, Grand Prix etc---they are physically/externally VERY different from the NASCAR versions. There's not a single piece of a NASCAR Grand Prix that will fit on a street Grand Prix. The NASCAR cars have only the overall external shape SIMILAR to the street versions. Rear-wheel drive manual V-8's and FWD automatic V-6's have completely different chassis, for starters... Putting stickers on a Monte Carlo means you've got the same colors, nothing more. The body is completely different. As is the chassis, and interior. And drivetrain. If you ever see a rally Vette, you at least know that underneath it all, it's still a Vette. Not the same with any NASCAR car. A '97 Camaro RS is much more mechanically similar to a '99 Grand Prix than a NASCAR Grand Prix is. (Wanna guess what I drive?)

As opposed to a Subaru Impreza, where you can actually make a rally version from a street version, etc. They're different in the details, not wholly different cars that somewhat look alike.

[yellowlightman]

As opposed to a Subaru Impreza, where you can actually make a rally version from a street version, etc. They're different in the details, not wholly different cars that somewhat look alike.

Homogulation is a wonderful thing.

[eriku]

I guess you guys wouldn't like me trying to make a Focus Rally car then?

I'd love to see that! I'd also love to see the Focus make it into the Binaltech line.

I'm biased though, I have a Focus and I love it.