Macross Δ (Delta) - Mission 24 - READ 1st POST

[azrael]

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[IXTL]

Episode started off dull with lots of talking but kicks into gear when...

Arad pilots Wright's VF-22

Makina takes a shot from a sniper

Mikumo transforms into the Wind Singer

Xaos arrive with Kairos's and Koenigs

I'm hoping they keep things moving in this direction for the final few episodes.

Wright Immelmann's Sturmvogel in action. For all of a few seconds.

[RedWolf]

Whatever excuses Heinz had he has lost all sympathy from me as he is willing to let a great injustice happen in front of him.

As for Roid his fanaticism will lead to the death of his people. Forcing Mikumo to summon the head can only lead to Windermere's destruction. Yes it is the Bird Human all over again.

Berger Stone helped Walkure as he knows whatever plan Roid had can't be good for him. Leading them to Wright's VF-22.

[seti88]

Dx Dx!

[IXTL]

I almost forgot something.

Flying fox Windemerians...

Shortly before Walkure sent their drones to knock them out of the sky.

Edited September 11, 2016 by IXTL

[eko.prasetiyo]

I'm waiting for full spoiler

[charles88]

I think right now either Roid is playing with fire in powder full of bomb right now(means he WAYYYY over his head) or is now fully become evil and insane

[Laundro]

Can some translate what Roid says post credits?

This episodes feels to me like the half way mark for the show, but alas we only have 2/3 eps left

[Product9]

Arad got serious! I think Bogue seriously just dodged a bullet.

[This Confuses Gamlin]

The VF-31A looks really nice with this paint scheme.

[Chronocidal]

Wait. He just jumped into a plane on display in a museum, and it flew? Please tell me he didn't fly it straight off the pedestal, and they actually had to do some kind of restoration work on it first....

[azrael]

I told you people it was a plot point last week.

Please tell me they pulled the flight data recorder.

[Product9]

I told you people it was a plot point last week.

Please tell me they pulled the flight data recorder.

Oh wow, I didn't even think about that. That could blow this whole thing wide open!

Also,

I made a GIF of my favorite scene in the episode (as I choose to remember it)

Imgur Link (warning, large GIF)

Edit: Improved version

Edited September 11, 2016 by Product9

[UN Spacy]

VERY nice to see the Strumvogel in action.

But where was Kaname and the others being stowed?

POSITIVE...last two episodes should be a thriller.

Oh wow, I didn't even think about that. That could blow this whole thing wide open!

Also,

I made a GIF of my favorite scene in the episode (as I choose to remember it)

Imgur Link (warning, large GIF)

Hahaha...that's great.

[Marzan]

Better, much better.

The stakes were higher and there was more and better drama. Combat scenes were actually meningful for once (Arad did something!) and the bit with Freyja starting to develop scales added a sombre ending to the proceedings. I hope they keep this up for the entire finale

[This Confuses Gamlin]

How did they open up the Fold gate? Who opened the Fold gate? Wasn't the intention of the song to destroy the ruins? Was that just a bonus of activating them?

[azrael]

How did they open up the Fold gate? Who opened the Fold gate? Wasn't the intention of the song to destroy the ruins? Was that just a bonus of activating them?

The better question is

Why not just bring a fleet through that gate? For christ sake... One of the other squads, Chuck, a spare shuttle and a Monster came through. Bring an 'effin FLEET. TACTICS?!?!?!?!? Strategy?!?!?

[This Confuses Gamlin]

The better question is

Why not just bring a fleet through that gate? For christ sake... One of the other squads, Chuck, a spare shuttle and a Monster came through. Bring an 'effin FLEET. TACTICS?!?!?!?!? Strategy?!?!?

But it was TWO Monsters. As far as getting a fleet through the gate goes, we don't know what the situation is like on the other side; last we saw Chuck he was separated from the Elysion; there might have been a larger fleet battle that popped up along the way preventing them from meeting. If the Elysion couldn't go through, it's possible that whoever was in charge was reluctant to send anyone through without knowing what they'd encounter on the other side. (Technical question, if you see someone else's Fold portal open, how do you know where it goes?)

Edited September 11, 2016 by This Confuses Gamlin

[Ghostbear0]

Lay-Line project command "It was you who broke my Mason plate".

[Aries Turner]

But where was Kaname and the others being stowed?

Quite a luxurious bomb bay lined with rich Corinthian leather.

[505thAirborne]

Looking forward to the subtitles, just watched it raw and I must say.... this might just be one of the better episodes.

[spanner]

The VF-31A looks really nice with this paint scheme.

that looks gorgeous in more plain colors!

definitely gonna be trying for 3x of these!

Edited September 11, 2016 by spanner

[kalvasflam]

"Klaatu Barada Nikto" Just say the magic word, and all will be well.

Waiting for the subs now. This episode certainly seems to be more interesting than the last one, but there is just this feeling that we've seen this before somewhere in this series.

[Super Ostrich]

Can some translate what Roid says post credits?

This episodes feels to me like the half way mark for the show, but alas we only have 2/3 eps left

He says:

"Star Singer, Mikumo Guynemer, let your song heard in the entire galaxy."

Episode started off dull with lots of talking but kicks into gear when...

Arad pilots Wright's VF-22

Makina takes a shot from a sniper

Mikumo transforms into the Wind Singer

Xaos arrive with Kairos's and Koenigs

I'm hoping they keep things moving in this direction for the final few episodes.

Wright Immelmann's Sturmvogel in action. For all of a few seconds.

Mikumo transforms into the Wind Star Singer

[Mr. Birler]

The better question is

Why not just bring a fleet through that gate? For christ sake... One of the other squads, Chuck, a spare shuttle and a Monster came through. Bring an 'effin FLEET. TACTICS?!?!?!?!? Strategy?!?!?

A fleet and Elysion might still at Randall, I guessed.

The squads that appeared in this episode might be standby with Chuck at Alfheim.

[Graham]

Saw a screenshot of Makina getting shot. Is she dead?

[Roy Focker]

Gutsy move if they did kill one of the singers. I would assume they'd all be alive for the live action music and product sales.

[Ghostbear0]

Saw a screenshot of Makina getting shot. Is she dead?

Not yet. So did anyone catch an explanation of how they got the two Sigfrieds there, and why they didn't just get Arad's the same way?

[Tochiro]

Episode 24 discussion is up!

http://www.macrossworld.com/speakerpodcast-ep-67-macrossΔ-ep-24-spoilercast/

[Product9]

Why not just bring a fleet through that gate?

Well, the Sigur Valens is there. Sending fleets up against that thing hasn't gone well in the past, so a tactical strike makes at least some sense.

[azrael]

Saw a screenshot of Makina getting shot. Is she dead?

No. She was shot in the lower left abdomen and Kaname had her aid kit.

[Graham]

The chance of a display plane mounted on a plinth (i.e. a gate guard) being still flyable is next to none. First step would normally to be remove the engines and any sensitive avionics, rendering it unflyable

[Ghostbear0]

The chance of a display plane mounted on a plinth (i.e. a gate guard) being still flyable is next to none. First step would normally to be remove the engines and any sensitive avionics, rendering it unflyable

Well It might be harder to hit a valk like that given how integrated systems are and their more stable in a resting state. But mostly keeping a trophy weapon in working order seems very much like something Gramia would do.

[kalvasflam]

The chance of a display plane mounted on a plinth (i.e. a gate guard) being still flyable is next to none. First step would normally to be remove the engines and any sensitive avionics, rendering it unflyable

I just chalked it up to the Windermereans being lazy, rather than doing a good job in taking the things apart, he just had an extra strong support built for the VF-22; wonder if that thing could still transform.

Now, the part that was interesting was with Berger, he is basically playing both sides, is that right? I just don't get him, is he may be Lady M in drag?

I finally figured out the thing that keeps bothering me about Bogue. On the one hand, his voice makes him sound Edward Elric size, then they show him standing next to Keith, he is almost as tall. I wonder if his animation is somehow inconsistent, I had the feeling that he was shorter than Herman when the show started, but now he is just as tall. May be he went through a growth spurt or something.

I guess I don't get the plan with the smash and grab here; they were trying to activate the runes to destroy it, but then because Mikumo fell into the wrong hands, and she activated the bird human thingie, everything went wrong, and now our heroes beat a hasty retreat. But how did the reinforcements know when they need to get there? Hope the subs come out soon.

[Aries Turner]

If a portal just open magically in your side of the planet, the infiltration team... er... succeeded. That is your cue to send reinforcements.

About the VF-22, it shouldn't fly. The fact that it did just show how bigger than life evildoers like 007 antagonists ever get undone after showing how mighty they are, what kind of usable trophies they are fond of, and how much they do like the sound of their own voices telling everything needed to be defeated just because they feel pretty sure the good guys walk to their deaths.

Not that I take this show for what it is, I am enjoying it again. Even Deux Ex Machina silly plots like "we had the valkyries parked down there just by lucky coincidence".

Edited September 12, 2016 by Aries Turner