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  On 8/22/2016 at 3:38 AM, Seto Kaiba said:
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Ep13? That sounds about right, Messer's death was essentially the high watermark for this series, 12 and 13 were passable as the prelude and the action sequence, although not as well as ep 13 on Frontier.

I hope they find a way to redeem this, they need to make a new series just to rectify the mistakes here. May be SK is having his Lucas moment, although I can't tell who the Jar Jar is in this series... Bogue?

So, the next logical step is sell the rights to Disney, or the equivalent there of in Japan, Sunrise? They'll do an equivalent of TFA and make us forget about Delta.

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Just saw the Chinese subs. Very disappointed with this and the last few episodes. I used to be looking forward to what the next episode had to offer and hit the forums to see what kind of insight there are from others and perhaps join in the discussion. At this point, I seriously don't care about this series anymore. There isn't anything really new to discuss besides lamenting about how the producers are squandering the series (I think it is pretty much unanimous). What a shame too, since we only get a new Macross series/ OVA maybe once for every 2 Olympics summer games.

Perhaps the last few episodes will be different. Maybe, but I remember ourselves saying that a few episodes ago too, so, like I said, i don't really care at this point. Even through the rose tinted glasses as a Macross fan, this series had effectively jumped the shark since episode 13.

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  On 8/22/2016 at 6:17 AM, Aries Turner said:
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Redwolf you just beat me to the punch......lol. I even screenshot the exact same scene......

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  On 8/22/2016 at 7:41 AM, RedWolf said:
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Is Kawamori writing and directing these episodes? Doesn't feel like it. :rolleyes:


  On 8/22/2016 at 6:29 AM, Raptor One said:

Blonde chick was cute.

Yes, that is the extent of my commentary

One of the best parts of this episode! :D <3

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From official delta site the major writer is 根元歲三,there are many below standard 2nd half episodes written by others...

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  On 8/22/2016 at 7:31 AM, BlueMax said:

Perhaps the last few episodes will be different. Maybe, but I remember ourselves saying that a few episodes ago too, so, like I said, i don't really care at this point. Even through the rose tinted glasses as a Macross fan, this series had effectively jumped the shark since episode 13.

The last few episodes will be different because obviously, the series is heading toward its finale. The problem is the road were taking to get to that finale. It's not a good one. Since we got past the halfway-point (perhaps even earlier), this show has been a narrative mess. They could have used parts of other previous episodes to incorporate what we have been seeing for the past few weeks instead of as they've done, drop 3 weeks of info on us. I'm sure this show will end in grand Macross-fashion, but that doesn't excuse the story dragging we've been through for the past 8 episodes.

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  On 8/22/2016 at 5:13 AM, RedWolf said:
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  On 8/22/2016 at 5:48 AM, kalvasflam said:

I hope they find a way to redeem this, they need to make a new series just to rectify the mistakes here. May be SK is having his Lucas moment, although I can't tell who the Jar Jar is in this series... Bogue?

Honestly? I don't think there's one single character who is a concentrated cauldron of wretchedness like Jar-Jar. It's spread out across a bunch of the superfluous cast who are all teaspoon-shallow one-dimensional cardboard standees... Makina, Reina, Kaname, Messer, Keith, Gramia...
  On 8/22/2016 at 6:17 AM, Aries Turner said:
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  On 8/22/2016 at 6:29 AM, Raptor One said:

Blonde chick was cute.

Yes, that is the extent of my commentary

The Ragnan girl was cute too. Can we trade Makina and Reina for those two?
  On 8/22/2016 at 12:43 PM, Aries Turner said:
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  On 8/21/2016 at 5:02 PM, Gerli said:

Ernest has good taste for decorations:

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  On 8/22/2016 at 2:29 PM, CRYO said:

From official delta site the major writer is 根元歲三,there are many below standard 2nd half episodes written by others...

Kawamori tends to write the outline of the story for the production and lets other scribes flesh out the details.

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  On 8/22/2016 at 11:05 PM, Zinjo said:

Kawamori tends to write the outline of the story for the production and lets other scribes flesh out the details.

Not sure how it works in Japan, but that's how it usually works in Hollywood. Someone pitches an idea (or writes up the outline) for an episode and then someone goes about writing the script. Who pitches the idea and who writes it varies from a writer to the executive producer (the EP being Kawamori in this case). Then the executive producer and/or director approves. In Hollywood, the pitcher is supposed to write his/her episode. Again, not sure how this works for animation.

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  On 8/22/2016 at 9:30 PM, Seto Kaiba said:
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  On 8/22/2016 at 10:53 PM, Zinjo said:
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That is the original SDF-1 Macross with the Prometheus and Daedalus. As far as we know Ernest is a merc not NUNS that once was an instructor and military advisor to the Windermerean government before he got transferred just before the independence war.
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  On 8/22/2016 at 11:26 PM, Aries Turner said:
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  On 8/23/2016 at 3:12 AM, RedWolf said:

That is the original SDF-1 Macross with the Prometheus and Daedalus. As far as we know Ernest is a merc not NUNS that once was an instructor and military advisor to the Windermerean government before he got transferred just before the independence war.

Strictly speaking, we don't know enough of Johnson's background to say with any certainty that he never served in the New UN Forces. His backstory only goes as far back as 2059-2060, when he was a hired trainer for the Windermere kingdom's local defense forces. He had to learn space warfare tactics somewhere, and he's probably 40-50 years old, so he may have done a stint in the (N)UNS somewhere in the 2030's or 2040's.
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I know from interaction in the military with officers (pilots), they will have models like that on their desk. Usually of aircraft they have either flown or greatly admire. Navy officers are the same way but then they will also have ship models or pictures of both historical ships and ships they have served on. As Seto said he may have served for a stint in the Spacy and may have served on one of the SDFN's or holds an admiration for the SDF-1. Either way it is a nice desk ornament.

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Sooooo...kinda like this......

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  On 8/23/2016 at 9:11 AM, no3ljm said:
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  On 8/23/2016 at 9:39 AM, Graham said:
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At least Walkure is sounding better these days.

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This is what I want to see for the end, with Siegfried's and Drakens going at it with Walkure Music mixed with Previous Macross Music. The fight choreography would be a mix of Battroid Martial Arts with a generous dose of flying. ^^

As a rookie member of Delta Platoon, Hayate is instructed to hang back while his comrades-in-arms go ahead with their mission to take down Roid Brehm after it’s learned he plans to finish what Macross Galaxy started with their Hivemind project. However, the team's cover is blown (Or did Roid already know they were attacking?), and Roid unleashes every ancient Protoculture defense system within Sigur Valens. Now Hayate must take command and lead his remaining team on an ultraviolent charge through the ship to complete -- and survive -- the mission.

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  On 8/23/2016 at 3:11 PM, no3ljm said:
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Unfortunately, the logical part of me says that should be the last thing Xaos does.
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  On 8/23/2016 at 7:34 AM, grigolosi said:

I know from interaction in the military with officers (pilots), they will have models like that on their desk. Usually of aircraft they have either flown or greatly admire. Navy officers are the same way but then they will also have ship models or pictures of both historical ships and ships they have served on. As Seto said he may have served for a stint in the Spacy and may have served on one of the SDFN's or holds an admiration for the SDF-1. Either way it is a nice desk ornament.

Captain Ernest Johnson would be a senior citizen if he'd served in the First Space War... but given his age, it seems a safe bet he's a part of the peace children generation born in the aftermath of the war, like Elmo was. I'd say that'd explain him having a model of the SDF-1 on his desk, given that peace children wouldn't be a thing if not for the Macross's effect on the Zentradi.

  On 8/23/2016 at 1:39 PM, Aries Turner said:

I see some serious Mecha Deprivation Syndrome. I'll even settle for a mecha choreography

At this point, I think most of us consider the show to be a disappointment on the mecha front. The mecha action's been thin on the ground, and the dogfight choreography has been flat, boring, and utterly lacking in Macross's distinctive high-mobility high-variability combat style. It's like we're only being allowed to watch episode previews for a mecha series between long dull slogs through a badly written Escaflowne slashfic.

Of course, after the last few episodes I'd be hard pressed to deny that this show hasn't started to turn into an all-fronts disappointment. It says a lot that I was much more excited for a single picture of a VF-31A Kairos in NUNS livery for the SVF-168 Death Adders in Variable Fighter Master File: VF-4 Lightning III than I was for Macross Delta Ep21.

(Said picture mentions the existence of a Variable Fighter Master File: VF-31 Siegfried in its caption... possibly an in-book in-universe tease like the one for the VF-4 book years ago.)

I suppose I could sum up my feelings on the second half of the series with a paraphrased quote from Gioachino Rossini... (originally directed at Wagner.)

Mister Nemoto has good moments, but awful halves of an hour.

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  On 8/23/2016 at 3:59 PM, Seto Kaiba said:

It's like we're only being allowed to watch episode previews for a mecha series between long dull slogs through a badly written Escaflowne slashfic.

Harsh!

But... probably fair. :D

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