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Subs are late. My nephew was pissed that I was watching the episode without subtitles. :lol:

  On 5/30/2016 at 6:33 AM, kajnrig said:

Decent episode overall. Nothing much to say, except that Kaname is quickly becoming my favorite character in the show bar none. Still hoping for a May-December Kaname/Arad pairing by show's end, or they trio up with Messer, or nothing happens at all. Though I just noticed in the opening Chuck's sister(?) checking out Messer from afar same as in the show. Maybe something will happen with that. The main trio are still fun, can still go in any direction and I'd be fine with it.

I like Kaname/Messer. Something should happen because right now Arad/Kaname/Messer triangle looks more interesting and it could be developed faster.

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  On 5/30/2016 at 4:06 PM, hachi said:
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  On 5/30/2016 at 1:06 PM, Graham said:

Yeah, still no subs :(

Damn, will have to watch GoT instead of Delta.

Wow you truly "suffer" for the cause.... :p

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  On 5/30/2016 at 12:58 PM, hachi said:

I like Kaname/Messer. Something should happen because right now Arad/Kaname/Messer triangle looks more interesting and it could be developed faster.

Definitely more interesting. I just find Messer to be kind of a boring character so far. The "perpetually broody" archetype has never struck my fancy; even just a little bit of levity would go a long way towards making him more bearable. My favorite "broody" characters (Cloud and Vincent from FFVII) are also capable of cracking dumb jokes, whereas the worst ones (Lightning from FFXIII) are mopey to the point of self-absorption.

His backstory makes him a bit more understandable (if not empathetic), but I'm waiting for that moment where he cracks even a small smile and there's not a big deal made about it. I hate that kind of storytelling even more than I hate that archetype.

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  On 5/29/2016 at 4:24 PM, kalvasflam said:

Finally, the animation error this time was very bad, so glaring, I caught it without even looking. Wish they do a better job.

What animation error?

You mean

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  On 5/31/2016 at 1:31 AM, Graham said:

What animation error?

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A few that I thought I saw:

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I think they need to really put a sense of danger in the series. Need may be a Mirage shot down and rescue episode. And the guys hunting her on the ground better not be the Knights. But I suppose we are too late into the series for that.

They do need to advance the storyline though, I liked the character development here, but hopefully we get to the situation of the sector soon.

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  On 5/30/2016 at 1:06 PM, Graham said:

Yeah, still no subs :(

Damn, will have to watch GoT instead of Delta.

hang in there, guys!!!

hahahahah, even the subbers have no love for Messer :)

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  On 5/31/2016 at 1:36 AM, kalvasflam said:

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While I haven't seen ep 9 yet, for eight straight episodes they have been pretty good about not reusing animation. I've recently rewatched frontier and there is ALOT of reused valkyrie and vajra footage in there, especially in the second half of the show. If a little reused animation appears in Delta I'm okay with it as long as it's not the same exact frame. As long as it never reaches M7 levels of recycled animation were still good. :)

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AHA! Called it a month ago...the other carrier IS the Hemera.

But it's a little odd

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  On 5/31/2016 at 6:43 AM, UN Spacy said:

AHA! Called it a month ago...the other carrier IS the Hemera.

Where did you spot the name of the other carrier?

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  On 5/31/2016 at 6:49 AM, Graham said:

Where did you spot the name of the other carrier?

Captain Johnson calls it out shortly after the air raid alerts go off.

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Hit the 24 hour mark so spoiler are off.

I'm liking Kaname and Freyja more and more as the series goes on. And as much as I dislike Bogue, I actually want the smug young Knights to get shot down first. At least Bogue gets humilliated every episode.

I'm hoping for something serious to occur to up the ante. The whole "the wind may blow here" when they scanned the ruins was pretty ominous so I'm guessing something will happen there soon.

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  On 5/31/2016 at 12:33 PM, Product9 said:

Pretty fun episode overall, though I feel like the dogfights are WAY too fast to be believable at this point. It's like since Frontier, Macross has been in this weird power creep competition with Gundam, where each iteration has to be fasterer and more strongerer to be competitive as a mecha anime. It's lame, and they really should go back to using reality as their baseline like they did back in Plus.

I'm definitely with you on this. I think Macross overall does a better job than most, but I agree that the dogfight scenes are way too fast. Far too hyperkinetic for believability. One thing I appreciated in Zero was that the action pretty much happened at real world speeds. I don't mind some Rule of Cool physics bending, but I do want to be able to follow the action without having to review ot frame by frame.

Or, maybe I'm just old. Damn kids...

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I really liked the part where Kaname is calling out to Messer (I assume she's the one doing that). I'm looking forward to the next episode to hear more of Kaname singing.

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Frak just to show how serious Var is it wiped out an entire colony on Alfheim. This was two years ago and Messer was there.

As stated in the 2nd Forbes interview of Shoji Kawamori Fold Bacteria has spread after the Vajra left. How this happened isn't explained in the anime but the prequel manga may have answers. At least it isn't killing its hosts like Ranshe and Sheryl was. The Vajra may have done something so won't kill humans and related races. Perhaps it is meant to facilitate communication once the Sub-Protoculture races leave the Milky Way and meet the Vajra again. Unfortunately it has been taken advantaged of by Windermere to facilitate terrorist acts.

We probably have to take account Galactic Whales a fold capable species have bacteria on them. A vaccine was developed to allow off worlders to live on Zola. Otherwise it is pretty deadly unless treated early with disinfectant or you take a bath at the Whale graveyard hotspring at Catsnake forest.

Protoculture ruins typically has energy shafts reaching to the planet's core. This in line with Macross 7 where in Rax the Protoculture ruins raised itself from deep underground from a volcanic island.

For Walkure it is a hit and miss activating them. Depending on circumstances. If Basara was there he can probably activate them himself with his status as Anima Spiritia.

Mirage is concerned being Var'ed as she doesn't have Fold Receptors. Uh Mirage you have family that have Fold Receptors. Your grandparents , Max and Milia, and aunt Mylene didn't manifest them at first but after continuous exposure to Basara singing they eventually had it as well. Your aunt Emilia? Also a powerful Fold Receptor that don't need tech and is more in line with a the legend of a Wind Singer.

The common denominator is that they learn to sing themselves instead of just listening to Basara.

And this is where Roid is mistaken in saying the ruins being just rocks without Wind Singers? Humans has Wind Singers it is just they don't call them that. Among the Mayans they are known as Shrine Maidens. Among modern Humans they are legendary Songstresses mostly, Basara a legendary Rock Star called by the Protodevlin and Protoculture as Anima Spiritia. Though I suppose Roid already knows that and lied to Keith so that he wont do anything rash. Rocks floating responding to Sara's song in Macross Zero.

On the triangle front Freyja became jealous due to a rumor by bridge bunnies and when it was cleared up was relieved. This lead her to meeting Messer at the beach. This'll be an odd friendship I think.

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I'm already seeing Bogue as the Knight to question his beliefs and maybe switch sides when Herman bites it. BoguexFreyja soon. Would like KENN to sing.

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  On 5/31/2016 at 1:50 PM, RedWolf said:

Frak just to show how serious Var is it wiped out an entire colony on Alfheim. This was two years ago and Messer was there.

As stated in the 2nd Forbes interview of Shoji Kawamori Fold Bacteria has spread after the Vajra left. How this happened isn't explained in the anime but the prequel manga may have answers. At least it isn't killing its hosts like Ranshe and Sheryl was. The Vajra may have done something so won't kill humans and related races. Perhaps it is meant to facilitate communication once the Sub-Protoculture races leave the Milky Way and meet the Vajra again. Unfortunately it has been taken advantaged of by Windermere to facilitate terrorist acts.

We probably have to take account Galactic Whales a fold capable species have bacteria on them. A vaccine was developed to allow off worlders to live on Zola. Otherwise it is pretty deadly unless treated early with disinfectant or you take a bath at the Whale graveyard hotspring at Catsnake forest.

Protoculture ruins typically has energy shafts reaching to the planet's core. This in line with Macross 7 where in Rax the Protoculture ruins raised itself from deep underground from a volcanic island.

For Walkure it is a hit and miss activating them. Depending on circumstances. If Basara was there he can probably activate them himself with his status as Anima Spiritia.

Mirage is concerned being Var'ed as she doesn't have Fold Receptors. Uh Mirage you have family that have Fold Receptors. Your grandparents , Max and Milia, and aunt Mylene didn't manifest them at first but after continuous exposure to Basara singing they eventually had it as well. Your aunt Emilia? Also a powerful Fold Receptor that don't need tech and is more in line with a the legend of a Wind Singer.

The common denominator is that they learn to sing themselves instead of just listening to Basara.

And this is where Roid is mistaken in saying the ruins being just rocks without Wind Singers? Humans has Wind Singers it is just they don't call them that. Among the Mayans they are known as Shrine Maidens. Among modern Humans they are legendary Songstresses mostly, Basara a legendary Rock Star called by the Protodevlin and Protoculture as Anima Spiritia. Though I suppose Roid already knows that and lied to Keith so that he wont do anything rash. Rocks floating responding to Sara's song in Macross Zero.

On the triangle front Freyja became jealous due to a rumor by bridge bunnies and when it was cleared up was relieved. This lead her to meeting Messer at the beach. This'll be an odd friendship I think.

Check out her rune during these sequences. Heheh.

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  On 5/31/2016 at 12:58 PM, Marzan said:

I'm liking Kaname and Freyja more and more as the series goes on. And as much as I dislike Bogue, I actually want the smug young Knights to get shot down first. At least Bogue gets humilliated every episode.

Freyja is definitely more likeable at this point in the series than Ranka was by this time in Frontier. Kaname is described as the "big sister" according to her bio as Arad is described as the "older brother"-type. You really do get that feeling from the 2. I like the two characterizations in this show. As for Bogue, I don't really want him to die right now. Humiliated, get his ass whooped, slapped around, anything. I just want to see that smug-look wiped off his face. Repeatedly.

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I'm hoping for something serious to occur to up the ante. The whole "the wind may blow here" when they scanned the ruins was pretty ominous so I'm guessing something will happen there soon.

Still to early for any deaths on Delta or Walkure. I still think Herman's death flag is blowing strong. Felt that from the first episode.

As I mentioned earlier, unless they do something new with Keith v. Messer, their dogfights are getting boring now. There are 2 other modes they could fight it out in.

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Agreed, there's almost zero tension in the battle scenes at this point because not a single one of the battles has had any real consequence to the plot or the characters. Hayate killing a redshirt is the closest we've come, everything else just feels like a game of tag. They need to establish some stakes very soon.

That said, I really liked the camera work in the dogfight scenes this episode. The clouds were interersting and I Bogue's run up to attack Walkure where he skimmed the water before popping up over the Island was very nicely done.

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Yeah Bogue's attempts at targeting Walkure are the only excitement during battles for me. Keith seems to be too in love with Messer at this point to kill him and none of the other Knights have been shown to be much of a threat to anyone. For all their vaunted superhuman physical abilities and superior airframes they still haven't proven to be much of a match for Delta's plain ol' human scum pilots.

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I really like it how Mikumo says; "listen to my song, then you'll be fine. Yes, that means you need to buy all the tracks on my latest album, the platinum edition, and go to the live concerts. I'm like a drug that can suppress the symptoms, and make sure you don't relapse. Pay me, pay me, pay me, or you'll get VAR. MUHAHAHAHA."

I think somehow an evil laughter would fit Mikumo very well.

And Bogue is just frigging hilarious, for someone so blood thirsty, it seems like he really need some grunts to beat up on, otherwise, he can't seem to take out anyone. He definitely need a kill. And he needs to get cultured. He apparently has had zero exposure to music. How many times has he tried to blow up the Walkure now? It's like a running theme with him, he fires a bunch of missiles, and he gets stopped somehow and is forced to runaway.

I'm actually not sure if at this point, he can even take Hayate when Hayate isn't resonating. May be he needs Herman to corner someone for him to shoot down.

When they say: "Branch," is that the Aerial Knight's ship?

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  On 5/31/2016 at 3:53 PM, azrael said:

Freyja is definitely more likeable at this point in the series than Ranka was by this time in Frontier. Kaname is described as the "big sister" according to her bio as Arad is described as the "older brother"-type. You really do get that feeling from the 2. I like the two characterizations in this show. As for Bogue, I don't really want him to die right now. Humiliated, get his ass whooped, slapped around, anything. I just want to see that smug-look wiped off his face. Repeatedly.

Still to early for any deaths on Delta or Walkure. I still think Herman's death flag is blowing strong. Felt that from the first episode.

As I mentioned earlier, unless they do something new with Keith v. Messer, their dogfights are getting boring now. There are 2 other modes they could fight it out in.

I get the sense Bogue is getting set up for a major change of heart. If his mentor gets fragged by Keith maybe, particularly after a confession of doubts in the cause, it may turn him.

I have to agree regarding the Messer / Keith dog fights. The Roy / DD dogfights in Zero were epic! In that OVA, SK showcased all the Valk modes in combat and it was amazing!

BTW, where are all the Drakkens we saw on Windemere?

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  On 5/31/2016 at 5:38 PM, crazysteve said:

none of the other Knights have been shown to be much of a threat to anyone

They're hardly ever on screen, the blame for which I would direct toward each episode wasting several seconds of air time on Keith and Messer calling each other out before going into a scissors duel offscreen for the entire rest of the dogfight, followed by a scene where Bogue ignores everything else so that he can try to kill Walkure.

"What are we going to do tonight, Bogue?"

"The same thing we do every night, Master! Try to kill Walkure!"

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  On 5/31/2016 at 5:50 PM, kalvasflam said:

I really like it how Mikumo says; "listen to my song, then you'll be fine.

So... capitalist Basara? :p

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  On 5/31/2016 at 5:51 PM, Zinjo said:

I get the sense Bogue is getting set up for a major change of heart. If his mentor gets fragged by Keith maybe, particularly after a confession of doubts in the cause, it may turn him.

That would be a real left-turn for Bogue and I don't get that sense from where they're going right now (maybe later, at the end???). Herman's character doesn't to give off that feeling that he would die by Keith. The feeling I get from Herman is, "I've lived a good (short) life. I'm ready to die." Same with the other "old" guy.

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The Roy / DD dogfights in Zero were epic! In that OVA, SK showcased all the Valk modes in combat and it was amazing!

Keep in mind, we weren't seeing Roy v. DD flying scissor patterns every week.

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