TehPW Posted December 6, 2018 Posted December 6, 2018 http://www.decultureshock.com/speakerpodcast-ep-118-yamato-2202-ch-6-regeneration/?fbclid=IwAR3cYRGvSKaezQvFy6jQon59ZL0WXQL4Qit92Ovg26mev0RDaVaw7sbuNiA massive spoilage but it explains soooooo much (and suplex's right into 2202's title: Warriors of Love) Quote
Keith Posted December 17, 2018 Posted December 17, 2018 The first half of Funi's 2202 Blu-ray release is up for pre-order, & due out late March. Quote
kalvasflam Posted December 25, 2018 Posted December 25, 2018 (edited) Be warned, below is a long rant, if you love Yamato 2202, don't click it, it's better for everyone involved that way. Reveal hidden contents Wow, watched the raw, and I think I need to reserve judgement until the subbed version comes out, but this was one disjointed set of crap. My thought is that if you aren't going to show all the stuff that actually happened with all those potential battles, then why bother with showing off these massive fleets. There was plenty of allusions to massive space battles, but we don't see any of it. Suddenly, sword ships have blown up the shield walls, what the hell happened to the thirty plus Gamilas dreadnoughts, did they just die? Well, who cares, we need to rush onto the next thing. The Ginga is surrounded by its fleet one minute, and then the next, it is soloing around Jupiter. The rest of the copy and past ships that were the Ginga's escorts? No one gives a damn. But quick, let's switch over to the fight around Mars. Show two or three pieces of action mid battle, and then forget about everything. What the F happened to Balsey and his rotating carrier? Apparently, no one gave a crap, we'll see three of those things in the final episodes, just long enough for them to be wiped out, or may be just never seen again. Then the final insult, one minute, however many Andromedas and boosters were diving and firing on Gatlantis, the next minute, it's only Yamanami's Andromeda left fighting by itself. WTF happened? Why go through all these pointless scenes of launching all of these Andromedas and variants if you don't even bother to show what happened. I think we can literally say no one gives a crap about all of those variants that were shown. Not even the writers, they were thrown in to give Bandai more models to sell. This was even worse than the battle of Saturn. They shoehorned in the Gamilas crap, I mean, how pathetic. My advise is if you only watched just the snippets that is out on Vimeo, and just imaging the rest of the glorious battles that occurred, you would be better off. Just pretend it was really good, and call it a day. Then there is the Desslar attack on Yamato. I'm totally speechless, the only thing I can say is WTF. What happened to the rest of Desslar's fleet. I am just waiting for the subs to hear what really happened, but this just seem so odd. There was almost no build up, how did Kodai and Kinman get aboard the core ship? All of this basically is to say that these particular writers decided to dump on giant smelly steaming pile of crap on the lap of the fans who enjoyed 2199, and then to add insult to injury, went over to the houses of the original series 2 writers and flipped every single one of them off. They could've just done the blue tunnel of love for the entire series, and it wouldn't have been this bad. I guess it must be me, but the writing on the last two series (Macross D) and Yamato 2202 has been horrendous. At least the first half of Macross D wasn't so bad. 2202 just kept finding ways to raise up your hopes and then dashing them. Edited December 25, 2018 by kalvasflam Quote
TehPW Posted December 26, 2018 Posted December 26, 2018 On 12/25/2018 at 6:17 AM, kalvasflam said: Be warned, below is a long rant, if you love Yamato 2202, don't click it, it's better for everyone involved that way. Reveal hidden contents Wow, watched the raw, and I think I need to reserve judgement until the subbed version comes out, but this was one disjointed set of crap. My thought is that if you aren't going to show all the stuff that actually happened with all those potential battles, then why bother with showing off these massive fleets. There was plenty of allusions to massive space battles, but we don't see any of it. Suddenly, sword ships have blown up the shield walls, what the hell happened to the thirty plus Gamilas dreadnoughts, did they just die? Well, who cares, we need to rush onto the next thing. The Ginga is surrounded by its fleet one minute, and then the next, it is soloing around Jupiter. The rest of the copy and past ships that were the Ginga's escorts? No one gives a damn. But quick, let's switch over to the fight around Mars. Show two or three pieces of action mid battle, and then forget about everything. What the F happened to Balsey and his rotating carrier? Apparently, no one gave a crap, we'll see three of those things in the final episodes, just long enough for them to be wiped out, or may be just never seen again. Then the final insult, one minute, however many Andromedas and boosters were diving and firing on Gatlantis, the next minute, it's only Yamanami's Andromeda left fighting by itself. WTF happened? Why go through all these pointless scenes of launching all of these Andromedas and variants if you don't even bother to show what happened. I think we can literally say no one gives a crap about all of those variants that were shown. Not even the writers, they were thrown in to give Bandai more models to sell. This was even worse than the battle of Saturn. They shoehorned in the Gamilas crap, I mean, how pathetic. My advise is if you only watched just the snippets that is out on Vimeo, and just imaging the rest of the glorious battles that occurred, you would be better off. Just pretend it was really good, and call it a day. Then there is the Desslar attack on Yamato. I'm totally speechless, the only thing I can say is WTF. What happened to the rest of Desslar's fleet. I am just waiting for the subs to hear what really happened, but this just seem so odd. There was almost no build up, how did Kodai and Kinman get aboard the core ship? All of this basically is to say that these particular writers decided to dump on giant smelly steaming pile of crap on the lap of the fans who enjoyed 2199, and then to add insult to injury, went over to the houses of the original series 2 writers and flipped every single one of them off. They could've just done the blue tunnel of love for the entire series, and it wouldn't have been this bad. I guess it must be me, but the writing on the last two series (Macross D) and Yamato 2202 has been horrendous. At least the first half of Macross D wasn't so bad. 2202 just kept finding ways to raise up your hopes and then dashing them. Expand Is it possible it looks all AFU because the films are done up in film format (not television episodic)? Quote
kalvasflam Posted December 26, 2018 Posted December 26, 2018 No, it is in the episodic format. It was just mind bogglingly disjointed in a lot of ways, I'm going to reserve final judgement until the subs come out, but it felt pretty horrible in terms of the actions. We'll just have to see. Quote
Valkyrie Hunter D Posted January 13, 2019 Posted January 13, 2019 What is this? http://www.hcj.jp/2202/home.html Is this another build-a-ship project from a magazine subscription? Quote
Dobber Posted January 13, 2019 Posted January 13, 2019 Whoa! 1/350 scale.....curious about it too. Chris Quote
westfall Posted January 13, 2019 Posted January 13, 2019 (edited) It's a 110 issue magazine by Hachette that will release parts for a 2202 Yamato in 1/350 scale, sort of like DeAgostini publications like the one with Millenium Falcon. The finished model will feature several light and sound gimicks, controled from a dedicated control box. Final price tag is above $2000 but you get a nifty 95 cm Yamato and a Yamato Fact File style collection in the end. Edited January 13, 2019 by westfall Quote
slide Posted January 13, 2019 Posted January 13, 2019 On 1/13/2019 at 8:41 AM, UN Spacy said: Wow how much that gonna cost? Expand Oh, probably triple what the OG 1/350 kit did when Bandai released it... at least they seem to be hitting all the same gimmicks... Quote
westfall Posted January 13, 2019 Posted January 13, 2019 (edited) Well, this will end up costing over $2000 but at least you can pay it in weekly instalments. Also of note that a lot of the kit is die cast. Edited January 13, 2019 by westfall Quote
slide Posted January 13, 2019 Posted January 13, 2019 On 1/13/2019 at 8:33 PM, westfall said: Well, this will end up costing over $2000 but at least you can pay it in weekly instalments. Also of note that a lot of the kit is die cast. Expand OH... so I could pay an Extra $1000 in shiping 15 installments to Canada?! Awesome!! I realize the quality of these things [Like De'Agostini's Falcon] but... As a modeler I'd rather hunt down one of Bandai's if I had the money to buy/time to build/space to display a Giant SBY. Still Super-Jealous of anyone who can afford the investment and space to display her, though! Maybe once I've payed off my mortgage I can think about really cool toys like this... Quote
Valkyrie Hunter D Posted January 13, 2019 Posted January 13, 2019 Just for kicks I asked Books Kinokuniya Web for a subscription quote to get the whole model. It might be cheaper for those who live close to an actual Kinokuniya store. Quote
treatment Posted January 13, 2019 Posted January 13, 2019 Yeah. Iirc, the 1/350 Bandai kit also had lights and electronics, and was around US$500 (excluding shipping-fees). Quote
slide Posted January 14, 2019 Posted January 14, 2019 On 1/13/2019 at 9:46 PM, treatment said: Yeah. Iirc, the 1/350 Bandai kit also had lights and electronics, and was around US$500 (excluding shipping-fees). Expand Lights, sounds, moving Turrets, etc... it's quite the box... Quote
Valkyrie Hunter D Posted January 14, 2019 Posted January 14, 2019 Huh, even though they're at the same scale, the Hachette model is going to be longer at 3.1 feet as opposed to Bandai's at 2.8 feet; a difference of just over 3 inches. Quote
treatment Posted January 14, 2019 Posted January 14, 2019 (edited) On 1/14/2019 at 1:25 AM, Valkyrie Hunter D said: Huh, even though they're at the same scale, the Hachette model is going to be longer at 3.1 feet as opposed to Bandai's at 2.8 \feet; a difference of just over 3 inches. Expand Wasn't the Yamato's sizing-specs retconned with the 2199/2202 versions? The Hachette kit looks to be the 2202-edition. Thought the Bandai 1/350 kit was for the old school Yamato specs. Edited January 14, 2019 by treatment Quote
Valkyrie Hunter D Posted January 14, 2019 Posted January 14, 2019 On 1/14/2019 at 1:41 AM, treatment said: Tought the Bandai 1/350 kit was for the old school Yamato specs. Expand Yeah, that must be it. I think that kit hit the market before 2199 was released. Quote
westfall Posted January 14, 2019 Posted January 14, 2019 Yes, the Yamato in 2199/2202 is 333 meters long while the original was about 265. Quote
Valkyrie Hunter D Posted January 14, 2019 Posted January 14, 2019 Surprisingly, Books Kinokuniya couldn't offer their services for the Hachette subscription. My best guess for anyone who wants to get in on this is Amazon JP or some proxy service. Quote
peter Posted January 16, 2019 Posted January 16, 2019 A little off topic, but Yamato related..... Haven't watched this show, but I want to now, just to see the visual effects. Quote
Dobber Posted January 16, 2019 Posted January 16, 2019 What is that from? The Man in the High Castle?? Chris Quote
peter Posted January 16, 2019 Posted January 16, 2019 (edited) Apparently. Visually, it looks as good if not better than the 2005 film Otoko Tachi No Yamato. That film really irked me btw. They built a third of the ship in 1/1 scale, yet still managed to make it look fake in the movie. It looked more real in tourist photos than it did in the film. Edited January 16, 2019 by peter Quote
TehPW Posted January 17, 2019 Posted January 17, 2019 did they (the Japanese) have working helicopters in WWII? I thought the first combat use of helicopters was the Korean War? Quote
Valkyrie Hunter D Posted January 17, 2019 Posted January 17, 2019 On 1/17/2019 at 3:34 AM, TehPW said: did they (the Japanese) have working helicopters in WWII? I thought the first combat use of helicopters was the Korean War? Expand Nope they didn't. The shot is from The Man in the High Castle where an alternative outcome of WWII takes center, so that's why we see a Kamov helicopter buzzing the Yamato. Quote
Dynaman Posted January 17, 2019 Posted January 17, 2019 (edited) On 1/17/2019 at 3:34 AM, TehPW said: did they (the Japanese) have working helicopters in WWII? I thought the first combat use of helicopters was the Korean War? Expand First combat use was in WW2 - very limited and I forget exactly what it was. Not by Japan however. Edited January 17, 2019 by Dynaman Quote
Dobber Posted January 17, 2019 Posted January 17, 2019 Yeah, The Man in the High Castle takes place in an alternate reality late 1950’s where the Axis powers won WWII and have occupied America. Japan has west of the Rockies and Germany East. It’s VERY depressing, good but depressing. I haven’t watched beyond season 1. Don’t know if I’m up to it. Chris Quote
peter Posted January 17, 2019 Posted January 17, 2019 On 1/17/2019 at 12:23 PM, TehPW said: Regardless, that pic is awesome... Expand Someone working for the show must have been a real battleship nut to recreate the ship so accurately (apart from the slight modernization of the helicopter pad). Quote
Valkyrie Hunter D Posted January 25, 2019 Posted January 25, 2019 So I've been asking HLJ to offer subscription services for the Hachette kit. The end result is that they can't offer a subscription, BUT they will now offer individual issues for sale. 1st one now on preorder: https://hlj.com/space-battleship-yamato-2202-1-350-yamato-weekly-magazine-001-hsjwym001 Quote
TehPW Posted January 25, 2019 Posted January 25, 2019 On 1/16/2019 at 4:42 PM, peter said: A little off topic, but Yamato related..... Haven't watched this show, but I want to now, just to see the visual effects. Expand I just notices something wrong with this pic: The ship is underway. Why does the flags still fly at the bow & stern flag staff's? Now I have no idea what the deal was a 100 years ago but modern procedures, for the USN, when they call 'Underway, Shift Colors!' on the 1MC, the Union Jack [or the Don't Tread on Me Flag] on the bow and the National Ensign on the stern are lowered at the same time, the bigger National Ensign is raised on the at-sea flag staff on the back of the bridge tower. maybe it's for dramatic effect, but I think the makers of this pic goof'ed. [Navy Nerd Mode, OFF] Quote
arbit Posted January 26, 2019 Posted January 26, 2019 On 1/25/2019 at 2:07 PM, TehPW said: [Navy Nerd Mode, OFF] Expand Quote
Thom Posted January 27, 2019 Posted January 27, 2019 (edited) Sorry. This was on the other night and I just had to do it. Bonus! Edited January 27, 2019 by Thom Quote
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