renegadeleader1 Posted October 11, 2017 Posted October 11, 2017 You know what I would find hilarious? We find out Captain Phasma is Finn's mother in a big reveal during their duel and it's Grace Jones under the helmet. What? Vader was voiced by James Earl Jones and had a white guy under the mask. Quote
Sildani Posted October 11, 2017 Posted October 11, 2017 *insert GIF of Gimli laughing at Helm’s Deep* Quote
Black Valkyrie Posted October 11, 2017 Posted October 11, 2017 (edited) The only things I'm interested : Luke Skywalker and the new AT-M6, as for Rey I hope she gets a Saber blow. Edited October 11, 2017 by Black Valkyrie Quote
electric indigo Posted October 11, 2017 Posted October 11, 2017 On 10/11/2017 at 2:30 AM, renegadeleader1 said: You know what I would find hilarious? We find out Captain Phasma is Finn's mother in a big reveal during their duel and it's Grace Jones under the helmet. Expand Nah, by the end of the movie Finn will be frozen in carbonite... Quote
Focslain Posted October 11, 2017 Posted October 11, 2017 On 10/11/2017 at 10:15 AM, electric indigo said: Nah, by the end of the movie Finn will be frozen in carbonite... Expand Close, it will be hibernation in the escape pod we keep seeing him sleeping in. Quote
Graham Posted October 12, 2017 Posted October 12, 2017 Definitely a strong ESB vibe to the new trailer. Quote
seti88 Posted October 12, 2017 Posted October 12, 2017 (edited) Watching the trailer, it seems such an amazing opportunity to turn star wars on its head. Kylo joins the light due to remorse of killing han and rey turns to the darkside because of luke's training .. but that wont happen, too risky a storywriting for studios i gather... Edited October 12, 2017 by seti88 Quote
Vepariga Posted October 12, 2017 Posted October 12, 2017 Looks great, alot of misdirection in the trailer im sensing though. Would be cool if Kylo took Rey to Snoke and then turns her on Luke, and Lukes gotta take them both down lol Quote
danth Posted October 12, 2017 Posted October 12, 2017 The visuals in that trailer are so stark. Characters or vehicles in crisp contrast to a bright background. Feels like they are in front of the world rather than in it. Nothing seems shrouded or mysterious. Quote
Thom Posted October 12, 2017 Posted October 12, 2017 On 10/12/2017 at 7:03 AM, seti88 said: Watching the trailer, it seems such an amazing opportunity to turn star wars on its head. Kylo joins the light due to remorse of killing han and rey turns to the darkside because of luke's training .. but that wont happen, too risky a storywriting for studios i gather... Expand That, and I do not want to see that happen! What I want is for Kylo to pay for killing Han. You just don't join the Light and all is forgiven. Quote
no3Ljm Posted October 13, 2017 Posted October 13, 2017 On 10/12/2017 at 12:35 PM, Vepariga said: Looks great, alot of misdirection in the trailer im sensing though. Would be cool if Kylo took Rey to Snoke and then turns her on Luke, and Lukes gotta take them both down lol Expand I already said that... in a 'twins' way. On 10/10/2017 at 5:58 AM, no3Ljm said: Luke VS The Solo Twins. Expand Quote
jvmacross Posted October 13, 2017 Posted October 13, 2017 On 10/12/2017 at 11:44 PM, Thom said: You just don't join the Light and all is forgiven. Expand yes it is....in fact...you get to look like your youthful self if you do and get to skip on all the "training" to become a force ghost!.... Quote
no3Ljm Posted October 13, 2017 Posted October 13, 2017 On 10/13/2017 at 2:06 AM, jvmacross said: yes it is....in fact...you get to look like your youthful self if you do and get to skip on all the "training" to become a force ghost!.... Expand Hahaha! Quote
Thom Posted October 13, 2017 Posted October 13, 2017 (edited) Not in my Light, they don't! And look at Anakin there. Look at that lowered brow and sneaky smile. Bastard is still up to something! Edited October 13, 2017 by Thom Quote
kalvasflam Posted October 13, 2017 Posted October 13, 2017 Ok, so, it might be just me, but Luke seem to be a bit of a dick. Not sure if he is a good teacher at all, because the monologue makes him seem quite jaded. I like how they are turning the heroes of ep IV to VI on their heads. No exactly a happy ending. But then, it would make sense if SW were to go on. Quote
no3Ljm Posted October 13, 2017 Posted October 13, 2017 It's all trailers for now so it's really hard to tell if he's going to be a dick throughout the film. Quote
dizman Posted October 13, 2017 Posted October 13, 2017 I hope Luke is just a jaded broken old man, it would fit especially after his teaching brought out the dark side of Kylo. I'm still not sure why he would even leave a map of where he went, guess it was a break glass in case of emergencies kind of thing. Quote
Chronocidal Posted October 13, 2017 Posted October 13, 2017 (edited) Honestly, the map nonsense was probably one of the weaker parts of TFA. Like.. ok fine, you hid your travel route, and no one knows where you went. That doesn't mean a chunk of every map in the galaxy just goes missing and no one knows what's there. The ham-fisted "Ooh look, the map fills in this giant empty space!" sequence had me just staring blankly. All they needed were coordinates. Edited October 13, 2017 by Chronocidal Quote
Dynaman Posted October 13, 2017 Posted October 13, 2017 That is no worse then "The Death Star Plans are not in the main computer". OK, back then people were not as computer savvy and didn't generally know that making a copy was bloody easy... If the plans HAD been in the main computer would the Empire have gone looking for the Droids? Quote
jvmacross Posted October 14, 2017 Posted October 14, 2017 On 10/13/2017 at 7:28 PM, dizman said: I hope Luke is just a jaded broken old man, it would fit especially after his teaching brought out the dark side of Kylo. I'm still not sure why he would even leave a map of where he went, guess it was a break glass in case of emergencies kind of thing. Expand I thought it was Snoke that brought out his dark side? Also....what if Snoke wanted to find Luke to get to Rey....and turn her? Quote
jvmacross Posted October 14, 2017 Posted October 14, 2017 On 10/13/2017 at 10:58 PM, Dynaman said: That is no worse then "The Death Star Plans are not in the main computer". OK, back then people were not as computer savvy and didn't generally know that making a copy was bloody easy... If the plans HAD been in the main computer would the Empire have gone looking for the Droids? Expand But I thought Rogue One established that the rebels put it on disk only? So basically when the grey Ackbar dude accepted the transmission from Jyn....it was downloaded straight to disk....the disk shown at the end of Rogue One handed to Leia and beginning of A New Hope....the same one Leia stashed inside R2.... Quote
captain america Posted October 14, 2017 Posted October 14, 2017 I'll just leave this here. This guy gets it. Quote
Dynaman Posted October 14, 2017 Posted October 14, 2017 On 10/14/2017 at 3:12 PM, jvmacross said: But I thought Rogue One established that the rebels put it on disk only? So basically when the grey Ackbar dude accepted the transmission from Jyn....it was downloaded straight to disk....the disk shown at the end of Rogue One handed to Leia and beginning of A New Hope....the same one Leia stashed inside R2.... Expand Which still makes NO logical sense. It was copied to disk in all of 5 minutes tops. They could have made a thousand copies while in Hyperspace. Quote
no3Ljm Posted October 16, 2017 Posted October 16, 2017 All of this ReyLo posts made me think that Disney probably kept the Solo Twins concept. What do you guys think? Quote
peter Posted October 16, 2017 Posted October 16, 2017 On 10/16/2017 at 4:18 PM, no3Ljm said: All of this ReyLo posts made me think that Disney probably kept the Solo Twins concept. What do you guys think? Expand I kind of think so. There hasn't been much chatter about what Luke was doing standing there at the end of the last film. Was that his wife's gravestone? Quote
Chronocidal Posted October 16, 2017 Posted October 16, 2017 I mean, that's been my going theory since the day I saw it. That pan around them on the island just made it way too conspicuous to ignore. See, there's one thing that strikes me really hard about the new movies, and new canon in general, for better or for worse. Despite unilaterally declaring the old EU as non-canon, that hasn't seemed to deter them in the slightest from picking and choosing bits and pieces that they liked, and reincorporating them. Whether that's because they really actually liked the EU, or just are creatively inept to the point that they couldn't think of something different, is up for grabs. My personal leaning is to the latter, given how much we've seen recycled from everything on every level. The other thing that struck me as interesting was that the timeline is pretty darn convenient. Not only did they distance themselves from the original trilogy enough to allow a new generation of characters to come into their prime, but they left themselves a lot of room for filling in the blanks, even to an excessive and detrimental level from a storytelling perspective, since we needed a ton of filler novels to explain half the movie. But the fun part? There's nothing really directly contradicting a good portion of the EU yet. They brought Thrawn back already. Who's to say that the overall plot of a lot of the EU material won't be directly adapted? Sure, they're going to change names, and a lot of the smaller details. They might not be Solo twins, but they might be siblings. And Kylo may have killed a renamed Mara Jade expy. They left enough room in the storyline that they could directly adapt a ton of EU material, with minimal changes. Quote
Focslain Posted October 16, 2017 Posted October 16, 2017 On 10/16/2017 at 7:24 PM, Chronocidal said: Reveal hidden contents I mean, that's been my going theory since the day I saw it. That pan around them on the island just made it way too conspicuous to ignore. See, there's one thing that strikes me really hard about the new movies, and new canon in general, for better or for worse. Despite unilaterally declaring the old EU as non-canon, that hasn't seemed to deter them in the slightest from picking and choosing bits and pieces that they liked, and reincorporating them. Whether that's because they really actually liked the EU, or just are creatively inept to the point that they couldn't think of something different, is up for grabs. My personal leaning is to the latter, given how much we've seen recycled from everything on every level. The other thing that struck me as interesting was that the timeline is pretty darn convenient. Not only did they distance themselves from the original trilogy enough to allow a new generation of characters to come into their prime, but they left themselves a lot of room for filling in the blanks, even to an excessive and detrimental level from a storytelling perspective, since we needed a ton of filler novels to explain half the movie. But the fun part? There's nothing really directly contradicting a good portion of the EU yet. They brought Thrawn back already. Who's to say that the overall plot of a lot of the EU material won't be directly adapted? Sure, they're going to change names, and a lot of the smaller details. They might not be Solo twins, but they might be siblings. And Kylo may have killed a renamed Mara Jade expy. They left enough room in the storyline that they could directly adapt a ton of EU material, with minimal changes. Expand Actually it's a control issue, the EU is a gold mine of lore and material, but they are partially owned but the dozens of authors and artists that helped create them. By legending the EU this allows Disney to pick and choose what they want to use and tap those materials to make their version of the EU via the media they are releasing. Quote
Chronocidal Posted October 16, 2017 Posted October 16, 2017 That much is pretty obvious I think, they don't want to be tied down to all the original authors. I do give them credit for going straight to Zahn for material regarding Thrawn though, and not just wimping out and making an obvious rip-off. On the other hand though, given the lack of originality seen at pretty much every level of production, I seriously question the ability of the current production team to actually develop any compelling original content at all. Quote
Convectuoso Posted November 2, 2017 Posted November 2, 2017 Thanks for sharing that! Gives a lot to think about were the characters are going with this movie. Quote
Kelsain Posted November 2, 2017 Posted November 2, 2017 I'm officially on trailer & TV spot lockdown at this point. The last one was enough for me! Quote
peter Posted November 2, 2017 Posted November 2, 2017 Reveal hidden contents Would be cool to imagine Luke reminiscing about the past, maybe pick up the training remote while thinking about Obi Wan, or sit on the medical bed that he was laid out on after he lost his arm. I wonder if they will Force Ghost Obi Wan into a scene with him on the Falcon. Quote
TangledThorns Posted November 7, 2017 Posted November 7, 2017 Has it been discussed that Snoke is actually the 'last Jedi'? A survivor of Order 66 perhaps? Quote
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