azrael Posted January 22, 2016 Author Share Posted January 22, 2016 Too early for a Waifu War. We have no read on most of the characters... which I guess never stopped anyone before. Never mind, carry on. At least it's not a 'shippin war. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scyla Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 So after watching the preview episode and giving it a lot of thought I have to be honest and say I didn't care for it. To be honest it felt scatterbrained and the tone was all over the place. If I didn't know any better that this was an offical work I'd have assumed this show was parody of Macross on the level of Project A-Ko. I'm not giving up on the show yet as all be told this is just a preview episode, but its not hitting the mark with me. You should watch it a couple of times more. I feel that it is a bit too cluttered with different story bits but if you watch it several times this goes away and you can concentrate more on the core of the story in this episode. The Speaker Podcast also mentioned that Kawamori said the tone of the first few episodes be vastly different in tone. Not sure what to take from that since I liked the tone of the preview episode but we will see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB0 Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 At least it's not a 'shippin war. MiragexMikumo one true pairing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kajnrig Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 Wasn't there a shipping war just a few pages back? Freyrage4life Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frothymug Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 You should watch it a couple of times more. I feel that it is a bit too cluttered with different story bits but if you watch it several times this goes away and you can concentrate more on the core of the story in this episode. You shouldn't have to watch it several times to catch everything, but that's just the reality of this offering. I've only seen it once, but I'm sure you're right. It's just the principle that bugs me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azrael Posted January 22, 2016 Author Share Posted January 22, 2016 MiragexMikumo one true pairingAs Yakko Warner would say, "G'night everybody!" Wasn't there a shipping war just a few pages back? No. I'm referring to the 'shippin wars from Frontier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kajnrig Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 No. I'm referring to the 'shippin wars from Frontier. Oh. Well, don't worry. With two competing groups, these shipping wars promise to be even more exciting than last round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einherjar Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 You shouldn't have to watch it several times to catch everything, but that's just the reality of this offering. I've only seen it once, but I'm sure you're right. It's just the principle that bugs me. This is the franchise where the animators turned a random missile into a beer can as an Easter egg for the movie. If you're just watching it once, you're doing it wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frothymug Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 The beer can didn't add to my appreciation of the overall story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerli Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 (edited) The beer can didn't add to my appreciation of the overall story. Beer always change the appreciation of a story.... only if you are the one drinking it. So... anyone watched Delta on drugs? it gets better? Edited January 23, 2016 by Gerli Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renegadeleader1 Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 You know there's a big difference between beer can missile or an Arcadia cameo easter egg and a main character in a worker destroid doing roller boogie electric boogaloo while super fun happy magical girls prance and sing. All this while civilians are dying from an old foe driven insane from music in addition to some random 18th century aristocrats in varible fighter show up unannounced looking for a runaway bride deciding "diplomacy is for dweebs" and start annihiliating the planets defense force. Did I miss anything? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karaoke Ninja Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 You know there's a big difference between beer can missile or an Arcadia cameo easter egg and a main character in a worker destroid doing roller boogie electric boogaloo while super fun happy magical girls prance and sing. All this while civilians are dying from an old foe driven insane from music in addition to some random 18th century aristocrats in varible fighter show up unannounced looking for a runaway bride deciding "diplomacy is for dweebs" and start annihiliating the planets defense force. Did I miss anything? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZFn96KWYBA What's wrong with the main character dancing in a mecha? And to be fair most of those things didn't happen at the same time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gubaba Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 You know there's a big difference between beer can missile or an Arcadia cameo easter egg and a main character in a worker destroid doing roller boogie electric boogaloo while super fun happy magical girls prance and sing. All this while civilians are dying from an old foe driven insane from music in addition to some random 18th century aristocrats in varible fighter show up unannounced looking for a runaway bride deciding "diplomacy is for dweebs" and start annihiliating the planets defense force. Did I miss anything? It's kinda like saying that SDFM had Hikaru playing pranks with the Angelbirds and Roy checking out Minmay's ass while Zentradi are bombarding the city... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raptor One Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 some random 18th century aristocrats in varible fighter show up unannounced looking for a runaway bride deciding "diplomacy is for dweebs" and start annihiliating the planets defense force. A lot of assumptions right here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karaoke Ninja Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 A lot of assumptions right here They didn't even hint they were looking for Freya. If anything it sounded like they were after Walkure since one of them fired a salvo of missiles while saying "Die Walkure!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zinjo Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 They didn't even hint they were looking for Freya. If anything it sounded like they were after Walkure since one of them fired a salvo of missiles while saying "Die Walkure!" Maybe he was saying "The Walkurie" in German... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scyla Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 (edited) Maybe he was saying "The Walkurie" in German... Die Walküre, Die! Edited January 25, 2016 by Scyla Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VF-15 Banshee Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Hmmm... Var Syndrome. Takes people over and makes them commit violent acts. Varauta, mind-controlled warriors of the Protodeviln. Coincidence? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zinjo Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Hmmm... Var Syndrome. Takes people over and makes them commit violent acts. Varauta, mind-controlled warriors of the Protodeviln. Coincidence? There may be a link, but the PD mind control seemed more sophisticated than the affects of the Var. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedWolf Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 The violence aspect is more in line with the effects of the Protodevlin or Evil Series on Zentradi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saruta Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 MiragexMikumo one true pairing Well, I guess a Jenius can be just strong enough when Mikumo inevitably gets killed off. She might even get to cook some pineapple salad. There probably WILL be yuri. Not even a war, a near certainty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saruta Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 You know there's a big difference between beer can missile or an Arcadia cameo easter egg and a main character in a worker destroid doing roller boogie electric boogaloo while super fun happy magical girls prance and sing. All this while civilians are dying from an old foe driven insane from music in addition to some random 18th century aristocrats in varible fighter show up unannounced looking for a runaway bride deciding "diplomacy is for dweebs" and start annihiliating the planets defense force. Did I miss anything? I'm joining the "lots of assumptions there" team. There is no hint these guys are even aware Freya exists. Yeah, she's from the same planet. But they still appear to be after the Walkure. (Which is all to the better, because if Freya got that Itano Circus it would likely be the end of her, and we're not even started yet, and she's the neo-Ranka or something). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zinjo Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 The violence aspect is more in line with the effects of the Protodevlin or Evil Series on Zentradi. True, but the PD prompted abject fear in the Zentradi. However I am beginning to see your point. It takes some lucidity to build a bomb as opposed to just shooting up a place. A fact I had forgotten from the prologue of the preview episode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedWolf Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 (edited) True, but the PD prompted abject fear in the Zentradi. However I am beginning to see your point. It takes some lucidity to build a bomb as opposed to just shooting up a place. A fact I had forgotten from the prologue of the preview episode. In Macross 30 Leon had to subdue Zentradi that suddenly went crazy and after they were knocked out they couldn't remember what happened to them after investigating the ruins. Turns out the planet had the eighth Evil Series that wasn't taken over by Protodevlin. Whatever faction created the Evil series planned to exploit the aggressiveness the Protoculture implanted on the Zentradi on the genetic level. Since the setting is the Outer Rim there are likely a bunch of former Protoculture settlements. It wouldn't surprise me if the Protoculture there decided to integrate with the sub-Proticulture races they created there. PC 5000 In what still remains of the Stellar Republic, only a small number of separated colonized planets, colonization fleets, space colony clusters [bunches], and other populations at the edge of the galaxy are left. Maybe the Kingdom of Wind has beef with Humans being called the Protoculture or their inheritors as the Windermere may have blood ties with the Protoculture. Those hair appendages may be indication of Space-Time Resonance Ability as they've shown some sort of "New-Type" effect like Sara and Mao's premonitions. The Mayan people revere the Protoculcha as it is not merely culture but genetic memory programmed in their genes. Like in DYRL where Culture was a genetic memory for Zentradi. Edited January 28, 2016 by RedWolf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zinjo Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 In Macross 30 Leon had to subdue Zentradi that suddenly went crazy and after they were knocked out they couldn't remember what happened to them after investigating the ruins. Turns out the planet had the eighth Evil Series that wasn't taken over by Protodevlin. Whatever faction created the Evil series planned to exploit the aggressiveness the Protoculture implanted on the Zentradi on the genetic level. Since the setting is the Outer Rim there are likely a bunch of former Protoculture settlements. It wouldn't surprise me if the Protoculture there decided to integrate with the sub-Proticulture races they created there. Maybe the Kingdom of Wind has beef with Humans being called the Protoculture or their inheritors as the Windermere may have blood ties with the Protoculture. Those hair appendages may be indication of Space-Time Resonance Ability as they've shown some sort of "New-Type" effect like Sara and Mao's premonitions. The Mayan people revere the Protoculcha as it is not merely culture but genetic memory programmed in their genes. Like in DYRL where Culture was a genetic memory for Zentradi. Possibly, though I'd be careful about referencing games as it is not a given that they get included as part of the official continuity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedWolf Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 Possibly, though I'd be careful about referencing games as it is not a given that they get included as part of the official continuity. Macross Delta's hero Valkyrie VF-31 is derived from the YF-30. The YF-30 is Macross 30's hero Valkyrie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raptor One Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 While that is true, he's right that one should be cautious. They could easily take selective elements of the game as canonical wile disavowing certain parts of the storyline. Hopeful they let it stay canon though. Most likely there will never be explicit confirmation so the best approach is to just accept it as canon until something happens in a main series that contradicts it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gubaba Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 While that is true, he's right that one should be cautious. They could easily take selective elements of the game as canonical wile disavowing certain parts of the storyline. Hopeful they let it stay canon though. Most likely there will never be explicit confirmation so the best approach is to just accept it as canon until something happens in a main series that contradicts it. Isn't that true for EVERYTHING in Macross, though...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raptor One Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 (edited) Isn't that true for EVERYTHING in Macross, though...? I suppose. But not everyone knows that. I was gonna mention the whole "There is no true Macross canon" argument but figured that might just confuse the issue. Edited January 28, 2016 by Raptor One Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mommar Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 I guess the fun part will be which pieces, if any, get stitched into this story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scyla Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Isn't that true for EVERYTHING in Macross, though...? I assume that Macross 30 is an in-universe video game that retells (with artistic license) a story from the Macross universe? The video game company probably just found the source code for it on some remote server and adapted it for our earthly technology. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kajnrig Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 I assume that Macross 30 is an in-universe video game that retells (with artistic license) a story from the Macross universe? The video game company probably just found the source code for it on some remote server and adapted it for our earthly technology. Christ, they WOULD get that meta. Not like it's anything new to them, though. I'm still wondering if Michel is dead or not... and if Brera is alive or not... and basically everyone from Frontier could be dead or alive depending on how Kawamori's feeling that day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scyla Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 In my mind the real events that lead to the Frontier show where: Emigration Fleet 25 encountered the Vajra and survived. Everything else is inserted for more drama. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedWolf Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Christ, they WOULD get that meta. Not like it's anything new to them, though. I'm still wondering if Michel is dead or not... and if Brera is alive or not... and basically everyone from Frontier could be dead or alive depending on how Kawamori's feeling that day. Luca's sibling has it worse. In the TV series he had an unseen older brother heading LAI. In the movies he had a older sister who was Leon's fiance. On another topic I think with the Aerial Knights "Rune" they can sense hostile intention thus have Newtype like ability. The Nome sisters had some precog ability of sensing hostile intention calling them Kadun. Maybe it is the same thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerli Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 and basically everyone from Frontier could be dead or alive depending on how Kawamori's feeling that day. Let's hope that he doesn't have a cat.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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