no3Ljm Posted April 15, 2016 Posted April 15, 2016 Itasha DX VF-1 with Minmay [The Concert Outfit] version please. And I'm still waiting for Bandai to release those Itasha VF-25 versions of Sheryl and Ranka in DX form. Quote
Guest davidwhangchoi Posted April 15, 2016 Posted April 15, 2016 (edited) new page bump Ok list is updated most popular valk on Macross World. latest results: VF-31F Delta 02 w/ 18 votes Second: VF-31S Delta 01 w/ 12 votes VF-31A w/ 15 votes if anyone is not on the list and wishes to be added on just post your list and i'll update it later at night. Macross World member's favorite VF-31 VF-31S Delta 01 -pilot* Arad Mölders -associated waifu** Mikumo Guynemer Seti88 Scyla Andy NYK barurutor derex3592 (tie w/ delta 02) no3ljm Shukenzero valhary Dio ULessa (tie w/ delta 02) Scream Man Nazareno2012 VF-31F Delta 02 -pilot* Messer Ihlefeld -associated waifu** Kaname Buccaneer Raptor One Saburo (tie w/ delta 04) Graham chyll2 derex3592 (tie w/ delta 01) Sildani Kaneda's Bike charger69 akteon NZEOD RocketGTR McFly!! M'Kyuun realdeal Garfinkel ULessa (tie w/ delta 01) Mr Bomber Alberich VF-31E Delta 03 -pilot* Chuck Mustang -associated waifu Reina Prowler Major Focker wmkjr (tie w/ delta 04) VF-31C Delta 04 -pilot* Mirage Fallyna Jenius -associated waifu** Makina Nakajima davidwhangchoi mod David Saburo (tie w/ delta 02) Bub wmkjr (tie w/ delta 03) anime52k8 ManhattanProject972 (tie w/ delta 05) VF-9 Cirno (tie w/ VF-31A) sh9000 hachi (tie w/ delta 05) aurance VF-31J Delta 05 -pilot* Hayate Immelmann -associated waifu** Freyja Wion abbadon Lorindor ManhattanProject972 (tie w/ delta 04) hachi (tie w/ delta 04) VF-31A GabrielV 1/1 LowViz Lurker sandman Ignacio Ocamica Moosey physioguy Spanner76 raptormesh Kelsain VF-9 Cirno ErikElvis Mazinger vipergb34 Nekko Basara mechaninac will update weekly or bi-weekly. more frequent when we get closer to pre-order stage. * may be subject to change ** speculated based on interactions Edited April 19, 2016 by davidwhangchoi Quote
Mazinger Posted April 16, 2016 Posted April 16, 2016 Huh, thought I had already put my vote in. Regardless, I'm in for a 31A. Quote
Guest davidwhangchoi Posted April 16, 2016 Posted April 16, 2016 Huh, thought I had already put my vote in. Regardless, I'm in for a 31A. updated, i looked back and this is your most recent post. I don't know why, but I'm not liking any of the 31 paint schemes. Probably the bright colors and stripes. Eager to see what the cannon fodder variants look like. Quote
Nekko Basara Posted April 19, 2016 Posted April 19, 2016 I'm getting on the VF-31A bandwagon. It may be very similar to the YF-30, but I can't hold that against it. Quote
mechaninac Posted April 19, 2016 Posted April 19, 2016 To me, the VF-31A takes the best aspects of the YF-30 and the FSW VF-31s, and combines them into one hell of a package that is greater than the sum of those that inspired its design... add the realistic low viz scheme and it's pure awesome. If there's any more room left in that bandwagon, count me in it. Quote
Guest davidwhangchoi Posted April 19, 2016 Posted April 19, 2016 updated: VF-31A has overtaken 2nd most popular w/ 15 votes Quote
Kanedas Bike Posted April 19, 2016 Posted April 19, 2016 updated: VF-31A has overtaken 2nd most popular w/ 15 votes It's the realistic paint scheme. If it was brightly colored like the hero Valkyries, or even carried a similar scheme to the YF-30 I don't think it'd be as popular. Low Viz is usually a crowd pleaser. -b. Quote
David Hingtgen Posted April 19, 2016 Posted April 19, 2016 Not the scheme, the wings. The other -31's look too much like the -29, while the 31A is like a "perfected" -30. Quote
Nekko Basara Posted April 19, 2016 Posted April 19, 2016 Not the scheme, the wings. The other -31's look too much like the -29, while the 31A is like a "perfected" -30. Yeah, for me, that's it exactly. Relative to the -30, the -31A incorporates the vertical stabilizers into the design better, closes up the spine, and gives the canards more presence. I love the low-viz scheme, don't get me wrong, but I'm fine with "air show" colors, too. Quote
Moosey Posted April 19, 2016 Posted April 19, 2016 While I'm still very much in the -31A camp I think Mirage's -31C has overtaken Delta 02's -31F. Mostly because so far Messer has proven to be a miserable bastard 😝 Mirage went up sharply in my estimation after her reaction to Hayate following their training mission at the end of ep03 Quote
raptormesh Posted April 19, 2016 Posted April 19, 2016 If you are interested in the nose profiles. Raised the contrast to make the lines a bit more visible. Quote
spanner Posted April 19, 2016 Posted April 19, 2016 The VF-31 definitely has the nicest nose profile of the three. With the 30 they removed the nose droop completely giving it a more conventional look but brought it back with the 31. Normally I don't particularly like the forward canopy frame (F-2 v F-16 for example) but I think it works well on the later Valkyrie designs especially on the 31. Quote
d3v Posted April 19, 2016 Posted April 19, 2016 The drooping nose plus the forward canopy frame help give the 25/31 a very russian look to them. Quote
Lorindor Posted April 19, 2016 Posted April 19, 2016 If the VF-31A had a scheme with a bit more color, that would be my favorite too. Quote
raptormesh Posted April 19, 2016 Posted April 19, 2016 If anything the 31 droop seems to be more severe than the 25 and it actually reminded me of the VF-2SS. The canopy also looks more modern and sleek, like the latest model of a supercar. Quote
spanner Posted April 19, 2016 Posted April 19, 2016 The drooping nose plus the forward canopy frame help give the 25/31 a very russian look to them. Yes I agree. And yes the canopy does look a lot sleeker than its predecessors.. Quote
d3v Posted April 19, 2016 Posted April 19, 2016 If anything the 31 droop seems to be more severe than the 25 and it actually reminded me of the VF-2SS. The canopy also looks more modern and sleek, like the latest model of a supercar. The nose is shorter though which doesn't make it look as extreme as the 25/27/29. Quote
Nazareno2012 Posted April 19, 2016 Posted April 19, 2016 If the VF-31A had a scheme with a bit more color, that would be my favorite too. It would be nice if they have a VF-31 in some camouflage paint scheme, which is both realistic and more colorful. Quote
Nekko Basara Posted April 19, 2016 Posted April 19, 2016 If you are interested in the nose profiles. Raised the contrast to make the lines a bit more visible. Wow, thank you. I'm amazed to see how much nose droop the -31 redesign of the -30 was able to incorporate, and I think it looks great. The Su-27-ish swan neck of the VF-25 and kin is one of my favorite things about them. I love the -30, but I'm adding this to my list of things the -31 seems to do even better. On a related note, does anyone else feel the way I do that the position and shape of the canopy has the biggest effect on how friendly or aggressive a valk looks? For example, I feel like the more forward-set and bulged canopy on the VF-0 makes it look less dangerous than the VF-1, and the VF-19's short nose gives it a downright adorable appearance. The VF-25 and SV-51, by contrast, look like deadly hunters. Anyone else feel that way, and what do you make of the -31? Quote
David Hingtgen Posted April 19, 2016 Posted April 19, 2016 Relative canopy size is often a goodway to tell how big a fighter is. Look at a Su-27 for a good example. That is a ginormous fighter, with a small canopy to match. Quote
realdeal Posted April 19, 2016 Posted April 19, 2016 (edited) Here's your damn landing gears. Its weird the nose droops so much, it looks straight in the show.Edit: image didnt copy from this post...can someone repost that pic? Edited April 19, 2016 by realdeal Quote
Kanedas Bike Posted April 19, 2016 Posted April 19, 2016 Wow, thank you. I'm amazed to see how much nose droop the -31 redesign of the -30 was able to incorporate, and I think it looks great. The Su-27-ish swan neck of the VF-25 and kin is one of my favorite things about them. I love the -30, but I'm adding this to my list of things the -31 seems to do even better. On a related note, does anyone else feel the way I do that the position and shape of the canopy has the biggest effect on how friendly or aggressive a valk looks? For example, I feel like the more forward-set and bulged canopy on the VF-0 makes it look less dangerous than the VF-1, and the VF-19's short nose gives it a downright adorable appearance. The VF-25 and SV-51, by contrast, look like deadly hunters. Anyone else feel that way, and what do you make of the -31? Not necessarily in those same terms, but I HATE bulbous canopies, like what's on the YF-30. I like the slim profile of canopy the 25 and 29 and what I hope it's that way on the 31 as well. From the pics posted it seems that way so I'm good. But yeah, streamlined canopy = better in my book. -b. Quote
spanner Posted April 19, 2016 Posted April 19, 2016 looking at that picture again it would appear that the 31 as a whole is on a more nose down angle compared to the others which might be exaggerating the nose droop appearance?? would you agree? Quote
Moosey Posted April 19, 2016 Posted April 19, 2016 When I first watched Frontier, I was a little skeptical of the nose design on the -25. It was very obviously channeling a Su-27 vibe and I wasn't sure how well the whole design stood up. Having said that, it very quickly grew on me (I love the Flanker anyway so it wasn't a huge stretch) The VF-30's nose is what kills the fighter mode of that Valk for me. Much of the art and the anime (like the opening sequence of Frontier) plays on that drooping nose aspect as if the Valk is flying with some alpha on - and I love that. Although you don't get that sense from the -30, the -31's nose profile works this well and thus I must love it! Bring on the Dx's!! Quote
raptormesh Posted April 20, 2016 Posted April 20, 2016 (edited) looking at that picture again it would appear that the 31 as a whole is on a more nose down angle compared to the others which might be exaggerating the nose droop appearance?? would you agree? Yeah it does, but I like how the lines are not broken by the canopy. Definitely makes it shine and feels different. On a related note, does anyone else feel the way I do that the position and shape of the canopy has the biggest effect on how friendly or aggressive a valk looks? For example, I feel like the more forward-set and bulged canopy on the VF-0 makes it look less dangerous than the VF-1, and the VF-19's short nose gives it a downright adorable appearance. The VF-25 and SV-51, by contrast, look like deadly hunters. Anyone else feel that way, and what do you make of the -31? I actually like bigger, and more bulbous canopies as well as shorter noses. I don't think it makes them less aggressive however, but smaller canopies/long nose combo to me just doesn't look aesthetically pleasing. My favorite so far is still the 21/22 in terms of balance. Looks pretty aggressive to me. Edited April 20, 2016 by raptormesh Quote
Lorindor Posted April 20, 2016 Posted April 20, 2016 I liked the YF-30 because it was toned down, not as excessively slim and streamlined as the Frontier valks. It looked more realistic. The VF-31 looks good, but it's mostly a step back in my opinion. Quote
koonfasa Posted April 20, 2016 Posted April 20, 2016 (edited) So how long did the Frontier DX take after the series released? Think these will be any faster? Edited April 20, 2016 by koonfasa Quote
aurance Posted April 20, 2016 Posted April 20, 2016 Same deal with VF-31 as with the -30: no visible forward thrust mechanism in Gerwalk mode, nor any obvious maneuvering verniers, that every preceding Valkyrie had. Are these ignored details on animation model/toys, or is there some new in-universe tech? Quote
chyll2 Posted April 20, 2016 Posted April 20, 2016 (edited) 30 only flew in atmosphere while 31 have never set foot in Space except for VF-31E which was equipped with a Fast Pack at that time. As for the explanation, it has not been shared or showned how it will do in Space without any verniers if without the Pack. Edited April 20, 2016 by chyll2 Quote
Mommar Posted April 20, 2016 Posted April 20, 2016 All this talk of the 30 and 31 not having vernier thrusters. Does the 262 have any? It looks as bare as well. Quote
chyll2 Posted April 20, 2016 Posted April 20, 2016 tbh, I am not really concern about the forward thrust and vernier. As long as I get a beautiful plane that can transform to Battroid, I am good. If I want realism, I wont ever be a fan of Humanoid mecha. Quote
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