borgified Posted February 23, 2021 Posted February 23, 2021 I will consider this new version of the 31a as I don't have the Karios. Which leads me to the next question: If this newer 31a gets released, will it be a TWE or regular pre-order? Quote
David Hingtgen Posted February 23, 2021 Posted February 23, 2021 I like the original -31A better. Will have to see what paint it gets, and if -31A gets a rerelease.... Quote
Mechapilot77 Posted February 23, 2021 Posted February 23, 2021 kairos was better IMO. i was one of the lucky ones... NY actually pulled through back then even if super late (or super early going by the standards past few years). its one of the few valks i almost consider selling each time i remember i have one because even though i like it a lot... its probably worth more to other people than to me. love teh vf-27 as well but those wings don't look as good swapped onto the 31 like that. Quote
Sanity is Optional Posted February 23, 2021 Posted February 23, 2021 Well, glad I have my 3 Kairos. Still going to pony up for the new version though, because Bandai knows how to drain my wallet. I think the gun looks a bit more like the one of the SV-262, the one off the VF-27 was almost as long as the entire fighter. Quote
no3Ljm Posted February 24, 2021 Posted February 24, 2021 (edited) On 2/23/2021 at 6:07 PM, borgified said: Repost from Shin (from another Macross thread): "Welp, looks like we’re getting a DX VF-31A retooled with new canards and new wings(looks like they’re from the VF-27) for the new movie(scan from Stone Cheung on Facebook)" Note: This can be reposted also on the Delta Movie Live thread. Expand Ok. Glad to see the new... well, the updated design. I'm really not that excited to be honest. The question for me now is, would it warrant for me to complete the whole team again or just get the color that I like this time? If that's the case, I wish there will be someone in the squad that has colors close to Hikaru's. By the way, @borgified, I shared your post on the movie and mecha thread. Edited February 24, 2021 by no3Ljm Quote
borgified Posted February 24, 2021 Posted February 24, 2021 Thanks for posting on there as well @no3Ljm. Quote
Seto Kaiba Posted February 24, 2021 Posted February 24, 2021 (edited) For those looking to visually compare like to like, I hastily slapped this together in MS Paint. I've also done an analysis on the Mecha thread in Series and Stories. Edited February 24, 2021 by Seto Kaiba Quote
Kanedas Bike Posted February 24, 2021 Posted February 24, 2021 Thanks @Seto Kaiba Echoing the comments already, from what I can see of the lineart I also like the original 31A better, but I don't hate this new iteration. I suspect I may actually like it once we can see some product photos. -b. Quote
Saburo Posted February 24, 2021 Posted February 24, 2021 Hmmm... I am in the middle for the new design. Sadly I will be buying it. LOL Quote
David Hingtgen Posted February 24, 2021 Posted February 24, 2021 Hmmmn---it's actually not as big a change as I thought, to the wings. The trailing edge and tip are the same as the -31A, it's only the dogtooth that was extended forward. :edit: Could the canopy be hinged at the front now, YF-19 style? It seems to taper a lot. Or maybe a 'cyber canopy' like the VF-27 or Sv-262? Quote
Chronocidal Posted February 24, 2021 Posted February 24, 2021 On 2/24/2021 at 3:17 AM, David Hingtgen said: Hmmmn---it's actually not as big a change as I thought, to the wings. The trailing edge and tip are the same as the -31A, it's only the dogtooth that was extended forward. :edit: Could the canopy be hinged at the front now, YF-19 style? It seems to taper a lot. Or maybe a 'cyber canopy' like the VF-27 or Sv-262? Expand I think the art there is unfinished, the canopy looked identical to the older designs in the trailer, or at the most they may have tweaked the sensor windows. What I find a little funny is that the wing tooth didn't even look that big in the trailer, but it was masked a little by super packs, and poses. Quote
spacemanoeuvres Posted February 24, 2021 Posted February 24, 2021 It’s growing on me. Maybe I’ll get two... Quote
no3Ljm Posted February 24, 2021 Posted February 24, 2021 On 2/24/2021 at 3:17 AM, David Hingtgen said: :edit: Could the canopy be hinged at the front now, YF-19 style? It seems to taper a lot. Or maybe a 'cyber canopy' like the VF-27 or Sv-262? Expand @Seto Kaiba's take is it might probably the Valk for Bogue as he mentioned in the Mecha Fun Time thread. Quote
borgified Posted February 24, 2021 Posted February 24, 2021 Sent you a PM @Seto Kaiba. Don't know if it might help out. Quote
Chronocidal Posted February 24, 2021 Posted February 24, 2021 (edited) So, looking at the trailer again, it looks like the canopy is a little different at the front. Also, I think the wing tooth extensions might actually be some kind of vertical surface? The shape is weird, but they look like a rather bulky surface that might exist just to attach the boosters in their new location, which... ok, hot take, but I'm going to call that a mistake. Attaching the boosters on the outside and tucking the wings under to attach the boosters really doesn't look great to me, and I feel like messing with how good and solid the old booster mounts were is not an improvement. Have to wait to see, but I'm not really liking the mission pod sticking so far out the back either, but it's at least a little more streamlined than the original blunt one. Edited February 24, 2021 by Chronocidal Quote
Slave IV Posted February 24, 2021 Posted February 24, 2021 Don’t care about all the little details of what’s different. If they make it, I will buy. Will be nice to have a few more actual Delta wing Valks from Delta. Quote
Seto Kaiba Posted February 24, 2021 Posted February 24, 2021 On 2/24/2021 at 4:00 AM, Chronocidal said: Also, I think the wing tooth extensions might actually be some kind of vertical surface? The shape is weird, but they look like a rather bulky surface that might exist just to attach the boosters in their new location, which... ok, hot take, but I'm going to call that a mistake. Attaching the boosters on the outside and tucking the wings under to attach the boosters really doesn't look great to me, and I feel like messing with how good and solid the old booster mounts were is not an improvement. Expand It's all about carrying on with the gimmick Hayate introduced with Messer's VF-31 Custom in the first movie... where he mounted Lilldrakens like that. It's a poor man's Tornado Pack. Quote
seti88 Posted February 24, 2021 Posted February 24, 2021 On 2/23/2021 at 6:07 PM, borgified said: Repost from Shin (from another Macross thread): "Welp, looks like we’re getting a DX VF-31A retooled with new canards and new wings(looks like they’re from the VF-27) for the new movie(scan from Stone Cheung on Facebook)" Note: This can be reposted also on the Delta Movie Live thread. Expand Ooooh..Am liking this, looks like the old 31A bulked up. As for the large guns underwing, thats a pretty distinctive form factor to remember by. Will see the final product but its a nice variant to me.. So this version cant be still called the 31A right? 31A-W? W for windermerean? Quote
derex3592 Posted February 24, 2021 Posted February 24, 2021 On 2/24/2021 at 4:10 AM, Slave IV said: Don’t care about all the little details of what’s different. If they make it, I will buy. Will be nice to have a few more actual Delta wing Valks from Delta. Expand If they make it, you will TRY to buy it..... fixed that for you.. Quote
Seto Kaiba Posted February 24, 2021 Posted February 24, 2021 On 2/24/2021 at 11:39 AM, seti88 said: So this version cant be still called the 31A right? 31A-W? W for windermerean? Expand It's almost certainly another Xaos Valkyrie Works custom job, so whatever variant letter it's given is unofficial and for Xaos's internal convenience only... same as the VF-31C, E, F, J, and S. I'm wondering if they'll still call it a Siegfried, or if they'll pick another name for it since it's a different custom spec. Quote
Slave IV Posted February 24, 2021 Posted February 24, 2021 On 2/24/2021 at 3:07 PM, derex3592 said: If they make it, you will TRY to buy it..... fixed that for you.. Expand Much more accurate to reality. Thanks! Quote
Chronocidal Posted February 24, 2021 Posted February 24, 2021 On 2/24/2021 at 3:58 PM, Seto Kaiba said: It's almost certainly another Xaos Valkyrie Works custom job, so whatever variant letter it's given is unofficial and for Xaos's internal convenience only... same as the VF-31C, E, F, J, and S. I'm wondering if they'll still call it a Siegfried, or if they'll pick another name for it since it's a different custom spec. Expand I wouldn't be surprised if they bump it to the VF-32.. maybe just call it the "Roy." Quote
no3Ljm Posted February 24, 2021 Posted February 24, 2021 VF-40 perhaps? Just in time for Macross 40th Anniversary? 40th Anniversary... Damn, I'm old. Quote
borgified Posted February 25, 2021 Posted February 25, 2021 You mean a VF-41 @no3Ljm? That has got me thinking honestly. Most of the current valks in the series are odd numbered except for the VF-22/YF-30/SV-262 (and I think that it has been discussed already). Quote
seti88 Posted February 25, 2021 Posted February 25, 2021 On 2/24/2021 at 3:58 PM, Seto Kaiba said: It's almost certainly another Xaos Valkyrie Works custom job, so whatever variant letter it's given is unofficial and for Xaos's internal convenience only... same as the VF-31C, E, F, J, and S. I'm wondering if they'll still call it a Siegfried, or if they'll pick another name for it since it's a different custom spec. Expand Advanced version or the last updated variant naming .....ie Super siegfried (?)..that would be similar to the super tomcat... or have an Advanced tactical fighter designation somewhere...Advanced Siegfried....vf-31ATF(X?)....sounds nice Quote
Mommar Posted February 25, 2021 Posted February 25, 2021 On 2/24/2021 at 4:58 AM, Seto Kaiba said: It's all about carrying on with the gimmick Hayate introduced with Messer's VF-31 Custom in the first movie... where he mounted Lilldrakens like that. It's a poor man's Tornado Pack. Expand If it's supposed to be a variant for Bogue it makes sense they would mount the fast packs in a manner he would be familiar with from the 262, It looks like they modified plenty of other things to behave like a 262 already. Quote
no3Ljm Posted February 25, 2021 Posted February 25, 2021 On 2/25/2021 at 4:05 AM, borgified said: You mean a VF-41 @no3Ljm? That has got me thinking honestly. Most of the current valks in the series are odd numbered except for the VF-22/YF-30/SV-262 (and I think that it has been discussed already). Expand If they're going to release it next year, then it's VF-41. Quote
eXis10z Posted February 25, 2021 Posted February 25, 2021 Who cares. Just buy it first. I'll worry about actually liking it or not after I secure my piece. Quote
no3Ljm Posted February 25, 2021 Posted February 25, 2021 On 2/25/2021 at 4:05 AM, borgified said: You mean a VF-41 @no3Ljm? That has got me thinking honestly. Most of the current valks in the series are odd numbered except for the VF-22/YF-30/SV-262 (and I think that it has been discussed already). Expand Hey @borgified. I think I got my math wrong. I came up with the 40th by subtracting 1982 from 2022, when in fact it should be 2021. So I guess, it's going to end up as an odd number if they're going to release it this year. VF-39. 39th Anniversary. And yes, damn, I'm old. Quote
Seto Kaiba Posted February 25, 2021 Posted February 25, 2021 On 2/24/2021 at 11:07 PM, Chronocidal said: I wouldn't be surprised if they bump it to the VF-32.. maybe just call it the "Roy." Expand I'd be pretty surprised... given how that thing is pretty obviously still a stock VF-31 at its core. This, to me at least, feels more like the kind of upgrade that would get a special variant letter and maybe a different name, but not an entirely different model number. More like the VF-19EF Caliburn, VF-19ACTIVE Nothung, VF-22HG Schwalbe Zwei, or YF-29B Perceval. On 2/25/2021 at 5:34 AM, seti88 said: Advanced version or the last updated variant naming .....ie Super siegfried (?)..that would be similar to the super tomcat... or have an Advanced tactical fighter designation somewhere...Advanced Siegfried....vf-31ATF(X?)....sounds nice Expand I really want to make a mean-spirited joke about its most likely pilot, but it just wouldn't be appropriate. Quote
David Hingtgen Posted March 1, 2021 Posted March 1, 2021 Kawamori is an F-15 fan, and the current hotness is the F-15EX, the upgraded F-15E (though really more like a replacement for the D?). So VF-31AX for upgraded VF-31A? And we could call it Stormbreaker... Quote
Mommar Posted March 1, 2021 Posted March 1, 2021 On 3/1/2021 at 12:47 AM, David Hingtgen said: Kawamori is an F-15 fan, and the current hotness is the F-15EX, the upgraded F-15E (though really more like a replacement for the D?). So VF-31AX for upgraded VF-31A? And we could call it Stormbreaker... Expand That's not a bad idea. Quote
wolfx Posted March 4, 2021 Posted March 4, 2021 Has there been any update regarding the Sound Boosters for the VF-31 DX Chogokin? Saw some pics last year at Tag Hobby or something. Quote
Anasazi37 Posted March 4, 2021 Posted March 4, 2021 On 3/4/2021 at 3:37 AM, wolfx said: Has there been any update regarding the Sound Boosters for the VF-31 DX Chogokin? Saw some pics last year at Tag Hobby or something. Expand To my knowledge, no news since they were revealed at the Tamashii Nations event this past November Quote
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