Jefuemon Posted August 25, 2015 Posted August 25, 2015 I caved too. AmiAmi has it up as well but I decided to go with HLJ due to their better shipping rates. I'm waiting for it to go up on Amazon. Free shipping! Quote
MacrossJunkie Posted August 26, 2015 Posted August 26, 2015 This is great! I didn't get the DYRL version because I already had my 1/3000 from Yamato, but this is something I'm interested in getting. Quote
ron5864 Posted August 26, 2015 Posted August 26, 2015 At first, I though this was a re-run of the old Imai SDF-1 kit. And then I realize the Imai kit was 1/5000 and this is in 1/4000 scale. So it must be a totally new design. Quote
antibiotictab Posted August 26, 2015 Posted August 26, 2015 Hasegawa made my day!! This brochure is named "Hasegawa News Radar," and distributed every month, IIRC. And this issue has its sub-title, saying "Hobby Show Special." You know, "All Japan Model and Hobby Show" will be held from Sep the 25th to 27th at Tokyo Big Sight. Its prototype model or something like that may probably be exhibited there. You had better looking forward to the news of the first day of the exhibit. Quote
sh9000 Posted August 26, 2015 Posted August 26, 2015 Preordered at Amiami and combined my order with MP Road Rage. Quote
vincemoto7 Posted August 27, 2015 Posted August 27, 2015 Damn it, alright I caved... ordered... that's why we work, right? Quote
Gabe Q Posted August 27, 2015 Posted August 27, 2015 The description says it's based on the DYRL version with "the essence of the TV version"?!? Are we gonna get a DYRL version with a TV paint guide? Getting the Daedalus and Prometheus will be nice but it won't be anywhere near accurate. Nearly every aspect of the two versions have differences. Quote
derex3592 Posted August 27, 2015 Posted August 27, 2015 Ohh SNAP! How did I miss this thread??!! Pre-Ordered! Quote
Kelsain Posted August 27, 2015 Posted August 27, 2015 Yes, some of it will be the same, primarily the legs. See my block quote on pg 1, that's hasegawa's breakdown. We'll have to see how it comes together, if it doesn't work for me, I can always cancel. Quote
Kelsain Posted August 27, 2015 Posted August 27, 2015 My main concern is whether the bow will be long enough. The DYRL is way too stubby for me. The added surface detail on the legs & ventral hull are not deal breakers for me. Quote
Thom Posted August 27, 2015 Posted August 27, 2015 I don't care. Another SDF coming, that's all that matters! Quote
Valkyrie Posted August 28, 2015 Posted August 28, 2015 Now I'm really curious to see some more photos, especially of the parts breakdown. Quote
Model-Junkie Posted August 28, 2015 Posted August 28, 2015 (edited) Below is someone's observations from the SSM forums: Among the changes listed: Change of leg position and addition of a main nozzle cover New bow, shoulder, and bridge Bridge is split into left and right parts, and is bigger Naval carriers (duh) There are a few details in Tenjin's illustration that do appear to be vestiges of the movie-version design, like about 50% of the main gun appears to be DYRL parts, and of course the legs are almost entirely DYRL-style as well...The nature of this release probably also means the scale is wrong. TV-version Macross is skinnier with a proportionately longer bow, but both versions of the ship are supposed to be 1210m long. They've apparently handled this by using the same parts but (apparently) adding a bit of length to the new bow, meaning this kit is larger than 1/4000; which is why the bridge parts are bigger as well... For me, I am mostly getting this kit for the Daedalus and Prometheus parts Edited August 28, 2015 by Model-Junkie Quote
Kelsain Posted August 28, 2015 Posted August 28, 2015 Yeah, not ready to sell the IMAI just yet. Need to see moar! Quote
Thom Posted August 28, 2015 Posted August 28, 2015 (edited) I hope that means it'll have extra parts, rather than switching out sprues. I'd love to have another set of ARMD carriers. And who else thinks that it is looong past time for a Macross 7/Frontier in 1/4000..? Which is also a pretty close scale to the new BSG models... Hmmm... Edited August 28, 2015 by Thom Quote
MechTech Posted August 28, 2015 Posted August 28, 2015 Hasegawa has a good reputation for accuracy, so I'm hoping they live up to it with this. They pulled off the fighters really well with only minor issues here and there so I hope that translates over to the SDF-1. Hopefully the items changed list is just to let customers know of the major changes; that we're just not buying a DYRL version with ships stuck on it. A full list of changes could get lengthy. Don't panic yet, it's too early! - MT Quote
Capt Hungry Posted August 28, 2015 Posted August 28, 2015 Already have enough models I haven't built.........but I like the look of the Super Messiah! Quote
captain america Posted August 28, 2015 Posted August 28, 2015 Hasegawa has a good reputation for accuracy, so I'm hoping they live up to it with this. They pulled off the fighters really well with only minor issues here and there so I hope that translates over to the SDF-1. Hopefully the items changed list is just to let customers know of the major changes; that we're just not buying a DYRL version with ships stuck on it. A full list of changes could get lengthy. Don't panic yet, it's too early! - MT This. Hasegawa has done stellar work up to now, so they have the benefit of my doubt. And if it should happen that they would get it not quite right, then that's when I come in Quote
Kelsain Posted August 28, 2015 Posted August 28, 2015 I hope that means it'll have extra parts, rather than switching out sprues. I'd love to have another set of ARMD carriers. And who else thinks that it is looong past time for a Macross 7/Frontier in 1/4000..? Which is also a pretty close scale to the new BSG models... Hmmm... Yes, this is much closer to the scale of my AMT Star Destroyer. I like consistency. But the math on 1/5000 scale was so easy! As for the parts, I've been looking at the pictures on Hobby Search. (I guess I should be working) http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/image/10308073z8/70/8# I'm guessing this was planned from the beginning, based on which pieces are lumped together on sprues. I'm guessing that they'll keep sprues A-F, then give us new ones for the TV bits. I'm sure they'll leave out the ARMDs. Based on this, below is the box art, highlighted with the areas I believe to be new. I'd love it if we got a new A sprue with longer booms, but now I'm not too sure. Quote
cool8or Posted August 28, 2015 Author Posted August 28, 2015 Well, september is not too far, I think we'll see some pictures in a couple weeks... Quote
joscasle Posted August 28, 2015 Posted August 28, 2015 (edited) Hasegawa SDF-1 TV Version Scale ... 1: 4000Part number ... 65 830Availability ... October 20, 2015Body price ... 5600 yen (+ consumption tax)The number of parts ... 219Model full-length ... 308.5mmModel full width ... 137mmSeries ... Macross Hasegawa SDF-1 DYRL Version Scale ... 1: 4000Part ... MC05Availability ... February 17, 2015 (on sale)Body price ... 5600 yen (+ consumption tax)The number of parts ... 245Model full-length ... 303mmModel full width ... 144mmSeries ... Macross Noting the dimensions, there are noticeable differences in size, particularly the width of the SDF-1 TV version. We must take into account that the Prometheus and Daedalus are in different position than the ARMD, which makes me think that the legs have a different position to the DYRL version, or different parts. What appears is that even with the position of Prometheus and Deadalus, the TV version is narrower than DYRL version, which would be correct. Edited August 29, 2015 by joscasle Quote
EXO Posted August 28, 2015 Posted August 28, 2015 Stupid peer pressure....pre-ordered! Now you need the Super Messiah! DO IT! DO IT! Quote
Jefuemon Posted September 1, 2015 Posted September 1, 2015 Dat commentary... "Destroyed Monster". Or as the HLJ page puts it, "Destroyed version of the Monster." Looking at it more, I'm thinking that's just a bad machine translation of "Destroid" Monster. Quote
HannouHeiki Posted September 1, 2015 Posted September 1, 2015 The engines do look closer together than their DYRL version. Quote
dbh1973 Posted September 2, 2015 Posted September 2, 2015 Pre-ordered from Hobby Search. Thanks Hasegawa! Quote
SebastianP Posted September 2, 2015 Posted September 2, 2015 Looking at it more, I'm thinking that's just a bad machine translation of "Destroid" Monster. Of course it is, but HLJ doesn't actually post straight machine translations and has a human checking them over, which is why the language sounds natural. Whoever they had doing it for this kit though is apparently not the greatest Macross fan, or he completely missed looking at the original text. Oh well, crap happens. And I agree with Thom - we *need* a New Macross carrier in the same scale. The only New Macross model I've seen in any scale was a limited run resin kit that was more of a size with gaming miniatures, and there's an opportunity to make five distinct versions with only minor retooling. And at least two or three of them would sell big. Quote
cool8or Posted September 4, 2015 Author Posted September 4, 2015 And it looks pretty good, after all.... Quote
ce25254 Posted September 4, 2015 Posted September 4, 2015 It's interesting to me that, although these two kits are both 1:4000, the bridge-head-thing is quite a bit smaller in the movie version. This surprises me, since I always think that the command area looks huge in the film's opening shot (a really well done scene IMO). I don't recall any similar perspective of the interior ever shown in the TV show. Quote
captain america Posted September 4, 2015 Posted September 4, 2015 I hate to be the one to say this, but I'm disappointed that Hasegawa certain visually-inaccurate DYRL parts for the TV version, it really does compromise the look of the kit: the leg/thruster design and where the bow meets the middle hull are particularly irksome. Quote
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