jenius Posted October 15, 2016 Posted October 15, 2016 (edited) Are you sure the wings are supposed to be covered from the front? The coloring on that line art is not official. Is there other art to judge by? I don't have my M0 dvds handy. Edited October 15, 2016 by jenius Quote
SuperHobo Posted October 15, 2016 Posted October 15, 2016 Hmmm if there's just one thing I wanted tampo-printed it would be the red triangles on the shoulder pods. The wings showing through the legs don't bother me. Quote
jvmacross Posted October 15, 2016 Posted October 15, 2016 (edited) Possibly.... I do not think there is "armor" missing for the "front" part...it is just covering the back of the wings....it's just that the current position of the wing tips is way too low....making them look way to exposed when looking at them from the front...I feel the available line art supports the wings not being as exposed as they are on the Arcadia PWS-0X armor... The CAD for the proposed cannon fodder VF-0 seems to have its wings more recessed.....maybe they realized the problem but it was too late for the already released VF-0S/A.... Edited October 15, 2016 by jvmacross Quote
seti88 Posted October 15, 2016 Posted October 15, 2016 I think there is a lil anime magic going on for the wings for the 0A CF pic...the promo for the 0S already had the wings tips exposed quite far down... Agreed is hard to unsee the wings but not much of a biggie to me..this would be better covered in the 0A/S thread... I just hope the articulation of the 0S with RA would enable a pose with gunpod blazing like in the OVA... Quote
no3Ljm Posted October 15, 2016 Posted October 15, 2016 Technically, I always think of the 'long' wings at the back... as capes. My Hero Valks. Quote
jvmacross Posted October 15, 2016 Posted October 15, 2016 (edited) Technically, I always think of the 'long' wings at the back... as capes. My Hero Valks. Edited October 15, 2016 by jvmacross Quote
Slave IV Posted October 15, 2016 Posted October 15, 2016 Speaking of wing capes, is there no way to close them all the way when using the stand adapter on the VF-1s with armor parts? Quote
Scyla Posted October 15, 2016 Posted October 15, 2016 Are you sure the wings are supposed to be covered from the front? The coloring on that line art is not official. Is there other art to judge by? I don't have my M0 dvds handy. At first I thought there is an armor piece covering up the front of the wings. After looking at the picture on M³ some more I was convinced that it looks that way because of shading and shadows. Now I don't know what to think anymore. Quote
jvmacross Posted October 17, 2016 Posted October 17, 2016 Ok...so pulled the Macross Chronicle that covers the PWS-0X.... The line art on Mr. March's site is correct.....and just about the only "official" line art available (the VFMF illustrations for the PWS-0X would support the Arcadia interpretation more so than the official line-art...but IMO it is wrong and hopefully, Arcadia did not use that as their "gold standard"...if so, they screwed up) ....there definitely is no "armor" covering the back side of the wings, which is what we see when viewing it "head-on".....so they are definitely exposed....however, Arcadia's execution has left those wings "over-exposed", which would also mean the back armor plate that covers the "top" of the wings when viewing it from behind...is too long.....anime magic I suppose.... But since the VF-0S suited in the PWS-0X armor is not transformable anyways, it wouldn't have hurt to supply "shorter wings" and a shorter back armor plate if collectors did not mind the parts-forming.....same could have been done with the hands.....providing a set of "armor-use" hands.....maybe a PWS-0X V 2.0 will address this....or an HMR! Finally.....even Tenjin went with the minimally exposed wings look in his illustration...... It would seem like the bottom of the back armor plate should be at the same level as the front "crotch" armor plate....which makes sense in "real-world/in-universe" application...this setup would allow for minimal exposure to the wings...either from the front or back..... Arcadia's PWS-0X is also too chunky IMO..at least looking at it head-on....unlike the GBP, which even in the lineart is bulky, the lineart portrays the PWS-0X as "slimmer"....the GBP is like an offensive lineman and the PWS-0X should be more like a running back.... Arcadia's PWS-0X reminds me of a Yamato's GBP V 1.0 armor when compared to the V 2.0 (which IMHO runs a bit "skinny")..... Still...it's the only game in town and looks OK from behind and from side views I suppose..... Quote
treatment Posted October 17, 2016 Posted October 17, 2016 The crotch-armor is longer in the third pic, in contrast to the "anime-magic" pics #1 and #2. #3 pic is even longer than Arcadia's toy. Quote
jvmacross Posted October 17, 2016 Posted October 17, 2016 (edited) IMO, in taking a bit of liberty from the line art, Tenjin corrected the length, thus extending the crotch armor plate so it makes sense.... In working with a 3D rendition, and not devising or wanting to devise a solution for the "long wings"....Arcadia's proportions in the waist area just end up looking way off when compared to the lineart..... I think someone would be able to easily "fix" the over-exposed wings issue by designing a new backplate and mock wing tips or the entire "shortened" wing assembly ala-HMR..... Unfortunately, there is no shapeways "diet pill" to get rid of the chunkiness..... Edited October 17, 2016 by jvmacross Quote
ZorClone Posted October 17, 2016 Posted October 17, 2016 if you just photoshop out those wings I think it would magically look slimmer Quote
Aye Aye Posted October 17, 2016 Posted October 17, 2016 Hmmm...well it isn't perfect, but it's what we get. I did specifically snatch a VF-0S for this dang thing, so despite the lineart proportions being skewed, still getting one. The question is where to buy? I like hobby search, but normally they have preorders for the week posted early, so people know it's coming up. Not seeing it added on their site. I guess it's HLJ...which I don't like too much... Quote
Mommar Posted October 17, 2016 Posted October 17, 2016 Expecting swappable wings on the 1/60 valks would be ridiculous. The only way to do that would be to dismantle the back to swap the wings. They couldn't be clip ins that rely on friction like on the smaller, lighter HMR's (which still get loose anyway.) Quote
wmkjr Posted October 18, 2016 Posted October 18, 2016 (edited) They could maybe do it like the VF-171's wings but I'd probably lose or break the pegs. The wings looks just like the preview image in the beginning of this thread and it's already coming so I just gonna wait for the PO. Edited October 18, 2016 by wmkjr Quote
dizman Posted October 18, 2016 Posted October 18, 2016 I'm sure someone will make a shapeways plate that can mount to one of the exposed missile hardpoints to cover the exposed wings from the front so that's not really a big deal. The only thing really off about the reactive armor to me is that the shoulder missiles pods are a hair too wide but it's not enough for me to curse Arcadia's name. Quote
SuperHobo Posted October 18, 2016 Posted October 18, 2016 official product page and photos. http://arcadia.ac/products/detail.php?product_id=238 Quote
jodokast Posted October 18, 2016 Posted October 18, 2016 So wait ... when does this go on pre-order? All I ask, is save me one. Quote
jvmacross Posted October 18, 2016 Posted October 18, 2016 Dang.....wide load! Return of the Chunky Monkey..... Looks ok from top down at an angle.....maybe if placed on a bottom shelf it won't be so bad.... Quote
sh9000 Posted October 18, 2016 Posted October 18, 2016 (edited) My VF-0S with Reactive Armor will stay on the bottom shelf with the VF-0D in the order of series. Edited October 18, 2016 by sh9000 Quote
seti88 Posted October 18, 2016 Posted October 18, 2016 (edited) The RA back view is nice with the colors I think this needs to be displayed with a reflective mirror or a detolf would suit it nicely... more pics ... I think the gunpod in hand would also spiff up the pose nicely... Edited October 18, 2016 by seti88 Quote
jenius Posted October 18, 2016 Posted October 18, 2016 Does the gun pod fit in the hand with those forearm armors? Quote
treatment Posted October 18, 2016 Posted October 18, 2016 Ya know? Arcadia could prolly add some minor revisions/additions on this Reactive Armor to make the PAP for Kinryu's armored VF-11... Quote
UN Spacy Posted October 18, 2016 Posted October 18, 2016 So wait ... when does this go on pre-order? All I ask, is save me one. It's an Arcadia...preorders won't close. Quote
seti88 Posted October 18, 2016 Posted October 18, 2016 (edited) Does the gun pod fit in the hand with those forearm armors? Am hoping that it would, after all, it did look like in the animation there was one. Perhaps it would fit if it lay at an angle or loose around the palm ...or if there is a separate hand support on the front portion of the gunpod.. ala two handed... Edited October 18, 2016 by seti88 Quote
seti88 Posted October 18, 2016 Posted October 18, 2016 Even for a moment I forgot there were pegs attached to the backpack to support the shoulder armors! I do wish the entire armor proportions were a tad slimmer for a more agile looking suit but this does look more like a prequel to the chunkiness of the vf-1 gbp... Quote
erikos0311 Posted October 18, 2016 Posted October 18, 2016 Sooooo. pre-orders start tonight at midnight? japan time??? anyone got info on this? Quote
seti88 Posted October 18, 2016 Posted October 18, 2016 (edited) If am not mistaken preorders normally open 4 pm local Tokyo ie GMT +9.. but since its arcadia i dont thk there would b madness preordering, however stranger things may happen... http://hobby.dengeki.com/news/277358/ and finally gunpod in hand! Looks a lil clumsy and i wonder if it can be two handed but hey at least it fits..sorta..pew pew! Edited October 18, 2016 by seti88 Quote
Pedro2k6 Posted October 18, 2016 Posted October 18, 2016 and finally gunpod in hand! 0619-440x660.jpg Looks a lil clumsy and i wonder if it can be two handed but hey at least it fits..sorta..pew pew! Love that poses. Quote
no3Ljm Posted October 18, 2016 Posted October 18, 2016 (edited) I don't think the Gunpod's grip is resting properly on the Valk's hand just by basing it on that angle. More like, slipping in the trigger finger in the hole, and let the back part rests by the chest area. And don't move him until your next display pose. To be honest, the more I see photos esp new ones, the more I want to get 2 sets rather than one. If only there's a way this one fits to the VF-0D without doing too much custom. Edited October 18, 2016 by no3Ljm Quote
Vermillion One Posted October 18, 2016 Posted October 18, 2016 Is this a limited release or will it be available everywhere (hlj, etc.)? Quote
seti88 Posted October 18, 2016 Posted October 18, 2016 Dont touch it and count the days until the arms sag from carrying the gunpod Looks like a wingtip from a gerwalk buddy would help balance the gunpod tip for the long run heheh ... man i need an extra wallet to get 2 hikaru has been on a sortie run on wallets this year! Is this a limited release or will it be available everywhere (hlj, etc.)? its gonna be available at the usual retailers... Quote
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