barurutor Posted September 5, 2016 Posted September 5, 2016 3 existing molds, actually. VF-4, VF-1 single-seater & accessories (GBP, SSP), VF-19 Kai I hope they have molds for the VF-1 dual-seater (VT-1, VE-1, VF-1D, VF-1D Virgin Road... these are easy money for Arcadia) YF-21+accessories (fast pack, fold booster) VF-11 VF-19 variants (19P, 19F, 19S) Licensing is another thing though... nobody knows what they're licensed to release. Quote
no3Ljm Posted September 5, 2016 Posted September 5, 2016 Oops. My bad. Forgot that 'red one'. Post edited. Quote
erizai Posted September 5, 2016 Posted September 5, 2016 How about the SDF-1 mould? Really hope Arcadia can re-issue the SDF-1 Second hand market is cutting throat, to me all Macross Fans should own one. If Arcadia doing pre-order and prepaid, they will see the actual demand so that it won't be over produced... They can do a pre-order in a way to check which one (DYRL or TV) is more popular before produce... (of course both will be better) Quote
no3Ljm Posted September 5, 2016 Posted September 5, 2016 How about the SDF-1 mould? Really hope Arcadia can re-issue the SDF-1 Second hand market is cutting throat, to me all Macross Fans should own one. If Arcadia doing pre-order and prepaid, they will see the actual demand so that it won't be over produced... They can do a pre-order in a way to check which one (DYRL or TV) is more popular before produce... (of course both will be better) The only thing is that if ever they do this it will only be catered to local customers since their store is not open to customers outside Japan. Unless they do it like Bandai/Nippon-Yasan. That any online shop exclusive should be paid upfront. And with today's Arcadia pricing a massive 1/3000 SDF will probably cost us more than $500. Quote
Sandman Posted September 5, 2016 Posted September 5, 2016 If Arcadia can keep 4 releases a year it will be perfect (for Macross) Each quarter we will get robed once, LOL Wonder how many moulds it actually brought over from Yamato? Mr K said they got 10 molds from Yamato. He didn't say which but I'd assume the 10 most recent molds were probably taken. He did mention the 1/48 is not one of them since the molds are broken. Quote
arbit Posted September 5, 2016 Posted September 5, 2016 Mr K said they got 10 molds from Yamato. He didn't say which but I'd assume the 10 most recent molds were probably taken. He did mention the 1/48 is not one of them since the molds are broken. Interesting. Quote
no3Ljm Posted September 5, 2016 Posted September 5, 2016 Mr K said they got 10 molds from Yamato. He didn't say which but I'd assume the 10 most recent molds were probably taken. He did mention the 1/48 is not one of them since the molds are broken. 'Recent' would probably includes the ff: - VF-17S - VF-19S/Kai + Sound Booster - VF-11B/C - VF-1J/S/A/D/X + SSP + GBP - QF-2200D-A/B Ghost Booster - YF-21/VF-22 - VE-1 - VT-1 - SDF-1 DY Keeping the hope alive here people. Quote
Ignacio Ocamica Posted September 6, 2016 Posted September 6, 2016 Mr K said they got 10 molds from Yamato. He didn't say which but I'd assume the 10 most recent molds were probably taken. He did mention the 1/48 is not one of them since the molds are broken. First time I heard this. Very interesting. Quote
Slave IV Posted September 6, 2016 Posted September 6, 2016 The VF-0 is a new mold that wasn't from Yamato? Quote
wmkjr Posted September 6, 2016 Posted September 6, 2016 (edited) Yup. More sleeker with some metal parts in places. Edited September 6, 2016 by wmkjr Quote
Sandman Posted September 6, 2016 Posted September 6, 2016 'Recent' would probably includes the ff: - VF-17S - VF-19S/Kai + Sound Booster - VF-11B/C - VF-1J/S/A/D/X + SSP + GBP - QF-2200D-A/B Ghost Booster - YF-21/VF-22 - VE-1 - VT-1 - SDF-1 DY Keeping the hope alive here people. You missed the vf-4. We know they have that one. Quote
CoreyD Posted September 6, 2016 Posted September 6, 2016 I'd count the GBP as it's own mold, not with the VF1. Quote
erizai Posted September 6, 2016 Posted September 6, 2016 (edited) - VF-17S- VF-19S/Kai + Sound Booster- VF-11B/C- VF-1J/S + SSP + GBP (Confirmed) /A/D/X (not showing up yet)- QF-2200D-A/B Ghost Booster- YF-21/VF-22- VE-1- VT-1- SDF-1 DY - VF-4 (Confirmed) Edited September 6, 2016 by erizai Quote
Slave IV Posted September 6, 2016 Posted September 6, 2016 Yup. More sleeker with some metal parts in places. Thanks! It is an excellent figure, probably the best IMO. Quote
jenius Posted September 6, 2016 Posted September 6, 2016 (edited) Vf4Vf1 v2Vf19Sound boosterStrike partsGBPThat leaves 4 unknown. I'd guess the Yf19 mold was another one though it was never released by Yamato we know it was in the works. In fact, the vf0 v2 also started as a Yamato project so we may only have 2 unaccounted for assuming the 0D isn't different from the S/A mold. Edit - I can math. Edited September 6, 2016 by jenius Quote
no3Ljm Posted September 6, 2016 Posted September 6, 2016 You missed the vf-4. We know they have that one. Good catch. I forgot that one. I'd count the GBP as it's own mold, not with the VF1. True. I only added that in the list to make room for more Valks instead of add-on. Besides, Strike/Super Parts and Sound Booster should also count as its own mold, right? Vf4 Vf1 v2 Vf19 Sound booster Strike parts GBP That leaves 5 unknown. I'd guess the Yf19 mold was another one though it was never released by Yamato we know it was in the works. In fact, the vf0 v2 also started as a Yamato project so we may only have 3 unaccounted for assuming the 0D isn't different from the S/A mold. Ok, updating my list here of confirmed Arcadia reissues and based on the last releases before Yamato closed shop. 'Recent' would probably includes the ff: Confirmed - VF-4G - VF-1S/J + SSP + GBP - VF-19Kai + Sound Booster Unconfirmed - VF-17S - VF-19S - VF-11B/C - VF-1A/D/X - QF-2200D-A/B Ghost Booster - YF-21/VF-22 - VE-1 - VT-1 - SDF-1 DYRL Again, keeping the hope alive here people. Quote
Sildani Posted September 6, 2016 Posted September 6, 2016 I'm kinda with Jenius. It's possible, likely even, that the various bits like Strike parts and the Sound Booster count as their own mold. Didn't Yamato release them separately too? So, a reasonable question to ask might be: of those unconfirmed molds you listed, Noel, how of them were shelfwarmers in the Yamato days? A new company struggling to be profitable would most likely skip those. Which sold well after release? Those are probably the ones Arcadia grabbed. Quote
Lorindor Posted September 6, 2016 Posted September 6, 2016 Are we talking about "a mold" as the finished product or the physical production mold? Because can't one single toy be made with several different molds? Metal parts and plastic should at least be molded separately. Correct me if I'm wrong. How was Mr. K's phrasing exactly? Quote
chyll2 Posted September 6, 2016 Posted September 6, 2016 I am pretty sure we are talking about mold as a set. IF anything to use as reference, the assembly kit VF-1 shows us how many set of molds are needed to create the said toy. I am with Jenius on the count. Quote
no3Ljm Posted September 7, 2016 Posted September 7, 2016 I'm kinda with Jenius. It's possible, likely even, that the various bits like Strike parts and the Sound Booster count as their own mold. Didn't Yamato release them separately too? So, a reasonable question to ask might be: of those unconfirmed molds you listed, Noel, how of them were shelfwarmers in the Yamato days? A new company struggling to be profitable would most likely skip those. Which sold well after release? Those are probably the ones Arcadia grabbed. Don't remember which is which. My list is more like a speculation based on what's the last batch Yamato released before closing down. I guess, as a new company they're probably go the safe route which is the VF-1's. I mean, even if VF-1 Hikaru has been released many times, people are still going to buy it for sure. Esp new comers. Quote
jenius Posted September 7, 2016 Posted September 7, 2016 I still would speculate that Arcadia's anemic production stems from licensing issues. I suspect BW gave Bandai whatever they wanted due to Bandai sponsoring Macross Delta (that seems like what any reasonable company would do). I think that if Arcadia could give us more VF-1 toys they would. The increased price of Arcadia's VF-1 toys may also reflect the licensing issues. Perhaps the SDF Macross license is now nearly prohibitively expensive based on a % of sales or maybe they have to buy temporary usage of the license rather than having exclusive ownership. It's a bummer but it would explain a lot of things. Maybe that's what BW is doing with all the licenses now. Quote
confuseguy Posted September 7, 2016 Posted September 7, 2016 (edited) The only thing is that if ever they do this it will only be catered to local customers since their store is not open to customers outside Japan. Unless they do it like Bandai/Nippon-Yasan. That any online shop exclusive should be paid upfront. And with today's Arcadia pricing a massive 1/3000 SDF will probably cost us more than $500. Gd news. As I was surfing through Taobao (China version of ebay), saw a preorder for sdf1. Available July 2017 for 32,000yen!This is what I got from there: ARCADIA太空堡垒 1/3000 超时空要塞 SDF-1 母舰再版 1/3000 完全変形SDF-1 マクロス 2017年7月 出荷予定 予価: 35000円(税込) やまとマクロスシリーズにマクロス艦登場! 1/2000プロトタイプレプリカキットを発売して約10ヶ月。本来のあるべき姿である完全変形シリーズ待望の「マクロス艦」をついにリリースいたします。 今回のマクロス艦は、リサイズによる見え方に併せての外装調整、関節などの強度確認による素材調整、要は全てを見直して修正をした物になります。併せてやまとらしいギミックも盛り込んだマクロス艦を、是非に遊び倒して頂けたら光栄です。 ◆完全変形シリーズ最大 完全変形シリーズでは最大のサイズを誇ります!その大きさは全長で約40cm!「マクロス艦=巨大」でなくてはならない思いを十分に発揮しています。変形機構もほぼ設定にならっている徹底振りは圧巻です! ◆部位ごとの再調整 1/3000スケールを開発するにあたりサイズは勿論、艦の部位ごとの調整も十分に吟味、修正しました。視覚から入るマクロス艦のイメージを崩さないように、肩部と腕、脚部のボリュームアップを図り、「重量感」をも演出しています! ※1/2000での設計データをベースに、今回の完全変形?完成品化に伴い、再度検証、調整を行っています。 ■材質:本体/ABS、POM、亜鉛合金、他 ■商品サイズ:全長約400mm(要塞形態時) ■パッケージ形態:クローズドボックス ■パッケージサイズ:250mm×500mm×250mm(仮) ■付属品:ねじカバーパーツ各種/小型砲塔パーツ/アームドノズルパーツ/取扱説明書 2017年7月出货,定价35000日元,预定价格 2XXX 代理店缺件损件有售后补件,请大家放心预定!(售后时间1到2个月要从日本寄回配件大家见谅) Edited September 7, 2016 by confuseguy Quote
technoblue Posted September 7, 2016 Posted September 7, 2016 An SDF-1 reissue? I am curious, but I do wonder why Arcadia/Mr. K have kept the comms silent on twitter. * crosses fingers * Quote
thetrollphysicist Posted September 7, 2016 Posted September 7, 2016 Also Arcadia really need to renew the SV-51 line next once they are done with the VF-0, with a new proper stowage for those Daisy Cutter air blast bomb seen in Ep 4 of the OVA Quote
mechaninac Posted September 7, 2016 Posted September 7, 2016 (edited) 1/3000 SDF-1 DYRL? reissue/Arcadia issue?... something I skipped the first time around and have been kicking myself for it ever since will be available again?... for less than half the going rate for the original Yamato whenever it pops up on eBay?... If true... :yahoo: Is that a choir of angels singing I hear?... Edited September 7, 2016 by mechaninac Quote
Lolicon Posted September 7, 2016 Posted September 7, 2016 That's twice as much as I paid for my Yamato SDF-1! ...but I'll still probably get one so I can display in both modes at the same time. For the price hike, Arcadia please print 01 and 02 on the ARMDs this time! Quote
F360 Posted September 7, 2016 Posted September 7, 2016 Is this the TaoBao listing? https://world.taobao.com/item/537510439121.htm seller seems to sell lots of mecha stuff, But the date to too far ahead. Quote
wmkjr Posted September 7, 2016 Posted September 7, 2016 (edited) *snip* Looks like a listing for a Yamato SDF-1. Asking price for it is 35000yen? The original Yamato was 32800yen so I would've expect it to be more than that. Edited September 7, 2016 by wmkjr Quote
jenius Posted September 7, 2016 Posted September 7, 2016 Much skepticism is required but hope also. Quote
treatment Posted September 7, 2016 Posted September 7, 2016 How much was the shipping-fee for it back in the day? Quote
yman1437 Posted September 7, 2016 Posted September 7, 2016 Very dubious...the description still mentioned "yamato", most likely just a copy and paste from old promo.... Is this the TaoBao listing? https://world.taobao.com/item/537510439121.htm seller seems to sell lots of mecha stuff, But the date to too far ahead. Quote
F360 Posted September 7, 2016 Posted September 7, 2016 How much was the shipping-fee for it back in the day? I paid 6100 yen for EMS back in the days. Quote
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