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505thAirborne BOMBA!

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i haven't posted here much on purpose to avoid trash posts or overly complaining.

i hope this turns out to be solid. i want it to do well.

Did you take the plunge and get one, or waiting for reviews?

aceoftherebellion Skull Leader's Lackey

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I don't care what the reviews (or reality) say, I got my shipping notice this morning and I'm excited!

My expectations aren't too high, all it has to do is exist and I'll be happy. Finally, a VF-2SS in my collection? At least one valkyrie from every animated Macross released to date? That's all I ever needed.

...Well, unless they decide to make a marduk figure somehow...

Graham Super Dimension Member

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To be honest, I can live with the underside swing bars, they are not pretty, but I'm seldom gonna look at the fighter mode from the underside and will just have to avoid loooking at it from the front......hahaha.

Apart from either having 3 different swapable hip joint parts like the Bandai kit had, or having a removable white plastic cover piece to hide the hip bars in Fighter mode, I can't think what else Evolution could have done.

Kinzoku VF Sharon Apple Concert Attendee

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Underside is messy....especially the front portion.

But it shouldn't be too hard to find a solution to hide the bars. Even if only partially.

A 3D printed 'cover' or even hand crafted part would do the trick, there's holes already there on each sides right above the bars that could be used for tabs to attach the "part" whilst in fighter mode. Have a rough idea for the shape of the part to so that it won't make it worse than it already is...

Only thing, this would make it parts forming well sort of.... ( not that it matters too much as it's not exactly the most anime accurate VF to start with)

Seeing all these issues, I can't wait to get it to start the 'beautifying job'

jvmacross Hory Froating Head

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Nice. We just need something to cover that metal bars. ;)

Photoshop? :p

But really....someone should post a pic with the "diecast" photoshop'd out....to see what it could have looked like

Seems there should be a way to recess those parts and then be able to cover them up with panels...like Yamato did with the VF-4 legs....

UN Spacy Super Dimension Member

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In for the 3D printing crew to come up with a cover similar to what Yamato did with their 1/60 VF-X.

505thAirborne BOMBA!

505thAirborne

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In for the 3D printing crew to come up with a cover similar to what Yamato did with their 1/60 VF-X.

If someone makes a cover that fits perfectly, I'll for sure buy them!

Bobby Global's Pipe Holder

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Notice how the legs of the VF-2SS in fighter mode should be more parallel, not at a "V" angle...Every pics show the legs spread apart ( that sounds so wrong....).

The top view one of the VF-2SS in Its box is a good one.

Hopefully, it looks like the diecast hip joints will allow the top of the legs to swivel out to create that "parallel" look with the intakes. When they are tucked in and make that "V" you described it loses that cool look that's kinda reminiscent of wing-mounted Frontier Super Parts B))

Photoshop? :p

But really....someone should post a pic with the "diecast" photoshop'd out....to see what it could have looked like

Seems there should be a way to recess those parts and then be able to cover them up with panels...like Yamato did with the VF-4 legs....

I totally agree. Here's an experiment photochop below...the intakes on the underside of the chest plate should have a higher profile (not to mention more pronounced intakes) so that the shoulders can line up/tuck under them better to hide them. This piece could clip on (parts-former...booooo :o ) or, ideally be hinged (possibly sharing the underbody front canard hinge) so that it can open and close (swings open towards nose) to allow the diecast hip swivels a chance to get in and out of the way for transformation!!! ^_^ (one can dream, right?)
(underbody photoshop possibility...)
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(click below only if you wanna see the bare underbody overlayed w/idea)
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wmkjr SMS Squadron Leader

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That'd be a good compromise for fighter mode. Maybe rework the fin area to make it more wedged shaped and start from there. It could unclip so that the stock intakes could be used for gerwalk to keep them inline with the wing section.

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treatment Galactic Diva

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Another set of photos found on Twitter. Probably the same one who posted photos earlier. Just hoping to see someone will post what's 'under' there.

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I, uhh, I dunno.

Maybe it's just the way the dude is posing it, but that thing just seems to be not quite flattering to the old lineart...

http://www.macross2.net/m3/macross2/vf-2ss.htm

in almost all modes, too.

Looks quite loose in that rear-view fighter-mode shot, too.

Maybe some of you here can tab it together better (if it even offers tabbing) when you finally receive your copy.

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treatment

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Hopefully, it looks like the diecast hip joints will allow the top of the legs to swivel out to create that "parallel" look with the intakes. When they are tucked in and make that "V" you described it loses that cool look that's kinda reminiscent of wing-mounted Frontier Super Parts B))

I totally agree. Here's an experiment photochop below...the intakes on the underside of the chest plate should have a higher profile (not to mention more pronounced intakes) so that the shoulders can line up/tuck under them better to hide them. This piece could clip on (parts-former...booooo :o ) or, ideally be hinged (possibly sharing the underbody front canard hinge) so that it can open and close (swings open towards nose) to allow the diecast hip swivels a chance to get in and out of the way for transformation!!! ^_^ (one can dream, right?)
(underbody photoshop possibility...)
underbody_idea.png
(click below only if you wanna see the bare underbody paired w/idea)

That would be nicer.

As such, do you guys think they should've left them swingbars painted like in the old promo-shot instead of unpainted (or is it actually painted gunmetal black?) like that?

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Did you take the plunge and get one, or waiting for reviews?

yeah, i had no budget... i still didn't get an vf-0s....

jvmacross Hory Froating Head

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That would be nicer.

As such, do you guys think they should've left them swingbars painted like in the old promo-shot instead of unpainted (or is it actually painted gunmetal black?) like that?

Then the added complaint would have been that they chipped upon the first transformation... :rolleyes:

yman1437 Bridge Bunny

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Exactly... thank you. Same pictures, one I would definitely buy, one I'll probably pass....

After seeing the unboxed pic...it looks like at the very least the proportioning from top down got better. Check out this overlay of the B-Club drawing on the final.

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That iconic (recolored) rendering from the DEC 91 issue in three dimensions would almost fit ;)

anime52k8 Super Dimension Member

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The more I look at pictures, the more convinced I am that Evolution toys didn't even bother to look at any of the transformation or detail line art when they were making this toy. It really sucks because if you look at the line art, all the mechanicals to make a working, transforming toy are there. If a company with the engineering acumen of Arcadia or Bandai were to tackle this, it would work perfectly. Evolution just short-cutted the hell out of this thing though. they looked at where parts needed to be in each mode and used the simplest mechanism they could design to make it work regardless of how it actually looked.


OK....let's not exaggerate....well, maybe just a little... ^_^

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I mean, what in the actual hell? why? just... why?

Scyla Galactic Diva

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I don't get the whole construction of the toy. Why have a half inch gap between the arms and the fuselage and also not hiding the arms and shoulders behind the secondary intakes. One of the biggest problems of the toy is that it is so wonky. All the proportion problems that the toy has in Fighter-Mode stem from the thick fuselage and I don't get why it is there.

I have a request. Can someone who has this toy in hand tell my why the gap between the arms and the fuselage is there?

[edit:] Regarding Mikes comment. I don't think that the VF-2SS design is very hard to replicate on a physical model. Battroid-Mode proportions surely would have suffered from a sleek Fighter-Mode. However I agree with you that the engineering is lacking on this toy from the images posted. Just look at the hinges for the nacelles. Why are they so thick?

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spanner Super Dimension Member

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:mellow: looks... moderately ok I guess but in the close up shots it certainly does give the impression its very cheaply made.. <_<

if it was around half the price i'd probably pick one up just for the sh!ts and giggles but not at the price they wanting for it.. -_-

pass

charger69 New Edwards Test Pilot

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If they tried to rotate the shoulder 90 degrees at fighter mode, we would have a million times slimmer fighter mode!!

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