Graham Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 Either Arcadia are trying to cheap out and cut costs. Or they really don't have enough money to afford the Tampo printing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickyg Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 Yeah, the sad truth is, just because a product might cost more than a competitor's, doesn't mean that company is making a lot of money on it. I hope Arcadia's Macross products continue to get produced and I hope the profits eventually justify the tooling and investments that would make customer expectations a reality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mommar Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 Has MrK ever explained why are the valks coming with almost no tampo now? At some point someone asked him a question concerning making a lot of different paint schemes for the molds and he said it's better to have the one base and let people modify them as they like. That could account for having limited tampo as well, but he never specifically stated that. That's only my own speculation. Or it was just a way to explain away how many poor selling molds Yamato had and why they weren't going to do that at Arcadia. Though I did look into having my own tampo stamps created not too long ago and tampo printing is actually a lot more expensive and tricky than people realize. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mechapilot77 Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 At some point someone asked him a question concerning making a lot of different paint schemes for the molds and he said it's better to have the one base and let people modify them as they like. That could account for having limited tampo as well, but he never specifically stated that. That's only my own speculation. Or it was just a way to explain away how many poor selling molds Yamato had and why they weren't going to do that at Arcadia. Though I did look into having my own tampo stamps created not too long ago and tampo printing is actually a lot more expensive and tricky than people realize. on that last part...yup. its quite tricky to get it right. i once worked at a place that made medical devices where we had to tampo logos on them. that machine was tricky to get running just right. every setup took a long while and wasted several parts and we constantly had to check parts to make sure the tampo was still working right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
technoblue Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 Yeah, the sad truth is, just because a product might cost more than a competitor's, doesn't mean that company is making a lot of money on it. I hope Arcadia's Macross products continue to get produced and I hope the profits eventually justify the tooling and investments that would make customer expectations a reality. Though I did look into having my own tampo stamps created not too long ago and tampo printing is actually a lot more expensive and tricky than people realize. Thank you for the added perspective mickyg and Mommar. Yeah. It's worth it to take a step back from the criticism and think about things logically. The new 0S is really looking good. And there's something about the VF-0 design that draws me in–even moreso than the VF-1. I think I'll be picking up all three. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scream Man Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 I'd get Shin's 0A if i could afford it, i really would. I love the Zeros, and this is the hero characters plane! But at close to $400, I just can't do it. I'll get the 0S no matter what, and be happy. I think it looks wicked as hell! But if this is the end for Arcadia i won't be amazingly sad, because the price is getting silly. I just got the Bandai VF-18Adv a few weeks back. It cost $370 or soemthing. And i just paid for the 29 Percival which was $200 ish. That means i could almost buy 2 fighters for the cost of 1 Arcadia. And those are planes i have already anyway! Sadly I'm there. I'm riced out, and it bums me out but.... that's the ball game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auberondreaming Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 If this was the end of Arcadia it would be the end of Macross collecting for me. Bandai toys don't compare in quality for me, thus worth the extra money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desty_Nova Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 There isn't really any excuse they could give for the lack of tampo that would satisfy me. The 30th 1J was -COVERED- with tampo and it only cost a fraction of what they've been asking for the stingy YF-19 and 0D. Even bootleg transformers have tampo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrie Driver Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 I want to get a VF-0S and VF-0D, but Bandai's offerings just fit in my budget better and they're making a lot of things I like. Sure I'd love to have an Arcadia YF-19 to go along with my Bandai and Yamato 19's, but it's not that big a deal for me. The Big things Arcadia is making that I want are the VF-1J GBP set, the VF-0D, VF-0S and armor, and the VF-0A (eventually). I'd also really want an SV-51 if they do one, and a Max VF-1A. If they released an updated VF-22S in Max and Milia I'd want those too, but Bandai has all of those frontier valks that I love so much, and their price point is so much better. I'd hate to see Arcadia go out of business, and they have a market, it's just really small, so they need to charge more to make that profit. That's really their own fault though, as they priced themselves into that market to begin with. Still I hope they're turning a profit and can keep the doors open. I picked up my VF-19 Advance for about $266 shipped NIB, which is really good considering some of the prices I've seen for it. That put me into a Y/VF-19 toy for less than half of what I've seen Arcadias go for (up to $900) with much of the same advantages over the original Yamato 1/60. I just got the Bandai VF-18Adv a few weeks back. It cost $370 or soemthing. Wow, I'm sorry you had to pay that much for it. I don't think I'd have paid that much, but I guess it was worth that to you. Great toy, I've not had mine even 24 hours and it's already my favorite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eriku Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 Wait...why are we talking about the "end of Arcadia"? Did I miss something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
technoblue Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 Wait...why are we talking about the "end of Arcadia"? Did I miss something? I haven't heard anything about Arcadia going anywhere. I think some people are moving to more affordable sources. Both Bandai and Arcadia make good products IMO, so I think everyone can be happy whatever they choose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funkymonkeyjavajunky Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 So, what are the odds we will see SV-51's from Arcadia? I will buy one if they improve it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenius Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 I think the odds are decent but not until 2017 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loop Posted August 8, 2015 Share Posted August 8, 2015 (edited) I think Jenius is pretty much on mark with that, unless they lost the license somehow.. I hope they are not afraid to make it, Mr.K said in the past that he wanted to revisit the SV-51's so it looks like it could happen since they are on the Mac Zero toys atm. Edited August 8, 2015 by Loop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrie Driver Posted August 8, 2015 Share Posted August 8, 2015 I'd love one of each of the Zero toys... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenius Posted August 8, 2015 Share Posted August 8, 2015 I think Jenius is pretty much on mark with that, unless they lost the license somehow.. I hope they are not afraid to make it, Mr.K said in the past that he wanted to revisit the SV-51's so it looks like it could happen since they are on the Mac Zero toys atm. I think the grasp on that Zero license is pretty solid... mostly because Bandai has never seemed to have interest in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valk-1S Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 I'd get Shin's 0A if i could afford it, i really would. I love the Zeros, and this is the hero characters plane! But at close to $400, I just can't do it. I'll get the 0S no matter what, and be happy. I think it looks wicked as hell! Same here as well. I had the VF-0A on order but cancelled it. Tanking AUD and Arcadia pricing, just can't justify getting it. Just have to be content with Yamato VF-0. Also have recently decided to give up collecting for good. VF-27 will be my last stuff coming in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanner Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 Same here as well. I had the VF-0A on order but cancelled it. Tanking AUD and Arcadia pricing, just can't justify getting it. Just have to be content with Yamato VF-0. Also have recently decided to give up collecting for good. VF-27 will be my last stuff coming in. The weak aussie dollar certainly doesn't help and yes they are becoming very expensive things to collect! I have gone through and made adjustments to my finances in order to be able to maintain my hobby. Sorry to hear you have decided to hit the brakes with collecting but I do feel your pain. I have given up a few other things purely to be able to continue with Macross. Hopefully you can eventually continue even if its only one or two items per year.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
technoblue Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 Ouch. That reminds me of how things were in the US not too long ago. I wasn't able to buy or collect much of anything (never mind Macross collectibles) from 2009 until 2012. I try to think positively about this stuff, but on most days I agree wholeheartedly with spanner76. The wisest course may be to find one or two favorites and stop there, or walk away like Valk-1S when prices get too expensive. Man, the world economy is still a big worry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrie Driver Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 I have to chose month to month, which hobbies to indulge. Thankfully my airsoft hobby is sitting pretty,I've not been able to play so my guns don't need any maintenance, and I don't want any more airsoft guns (I do, but I just don't feel compelled). I only have one real long gun I want and then I'm happy for now. And I don't need a ton right now for my Warhammer 40k habit, just some odds and ends here and there. There really aren't a ton of Macross toys out there I'm really dying to have, so they can wait a bit. Like spanner said, you just have to massage the old finances a bit and choose what's going to make you happiest for the next month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anubis20 Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 Im saving my rewards from a credit card specifically to fund my 2x 0S purchases, so far im at $227 so im kind glad its taking its time to come out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrie Driver Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Honestly, I really just need a fix for my VF-0A. I've already replaced the arms, which is probably why the hands are wonky, the swing bar clamps need to be replaced, and the shoulders need to be tightened up, and he'd be a right proper toy again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest davidwhangchoi Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 the 0a is where it's at low viz grey. no chance of pink. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wmkjr Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Ready to take on the world! From Mr. K's Twitter: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanner Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 (edited) Ready to take on the world! From Mr. K's Twitter: AWESOME!!! looks like a scene from iRobot! Gahhh! I'd love to be able to buy this many of them! Have a whole friggin squadron of Zero's! Funny thing they don't show the back of the legs anywhere.. overall color looks ok too. Edited August 13, 2015 by spanner76 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrie addict Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 So, it's gonna keep the blue accents in the legs. Not that I don't like it, but Arcadia has taken a lot of liberties with the Zero line colors Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrie Driver Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 That color looks wrong. It was a darker grey in the OVA. Not much darker, but still... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seti88 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 can i ask the guru's... it looks like white stripes across the arms are anime accurate? (ending scenes where shin meets sara via naked valk) this is opposed to roy's which has black stripes... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyp Durron Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 (edited) So, it's gonna keep the blue accents in the legs. Not that I don't like it, but Arcadia has taken a lot of liberties with the Zero line colors OH. HELL. NO. That's the last straw, cancelling my preorder. **** you, Arcadia, **** you for real. If they're going to pull this B.S., they can give up their license right now and give it to someone that actually cares enough to do them right, color and all. Edited August 13, 2015 by Kyp Durron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrie Driver Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 OH. HELL. NO. That's the last straw, cancelling my preorder. **** you, Arcadia, **** you for real. If they're going to pull this B.S., they can give up their license right now and give it to someone that actually cares enough to do them right, color and all. The grey looks a bit too light, and those ventral fins look a bit blue, but it might just be the lighting that's playing tricks. Don't fly off the handle and do something you'll regret. Let's wait for some pictures with less wonky lighting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anubis20 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 (edited) One guy on twitter pointed out that they changed underneath the mono eye from black to white.. Panic button attack!! Mass cancellation overdrive now! Edited August 13, 2015 by anubis20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
technoblue Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 I'm okay with it. This version seems to have its own low-vis look and feel (as others have noted) even with the blue accents. I think it will display well with the 0D. I will admit to being a little confused with the departure from the gull grey tones of the prior Yamato release, but meh. Arcadia is marching to a different drum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keiichi Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 One guy on twitter pointed out that they changed underneath the mono eye from black to white.. Panic button attack!! Mass cancellation overdrive now! That's a good change though, right? Or is it a bad one? I can't tell anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest davidwhangchoi Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 (edited) I love it, though the blue accents... it's a bit non canon Edited August 13, 2015 by davidwhangchoi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anubis20 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 That's a good change though, right? Or is it a bad one? I can't tell anymore. Its a good one in my book I love it, though the blue accents... it's a bit non canon I agree but its a nice way to spruce it up a little. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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