auberondreaming Posted June 30, 2017 Posted June 30, 2017 That's the way you do a vf-2! I hope this has a ton of interest so one of the two companies who know what they are doing take a shot at a 1/60th version with this engineering. Quote
Big s Posted June 30, 2017 Posted June 30, 2017 The tabs look a bit thick, but it makes up for having fewer of them. I'm not worried about the stability. So far hmr toys have all been surprisingly stable. Quote
Delta Posted June 30, 2017 Posted June 30, 2017 From machine translation: Set Contents: Body · Landing Leg Complete (swap-in landing gear for fighter mode?), · Gun Pod · Replacement Wrist Right and Left 3 Types · Replacement Small Wing Parts (extra tail fins? Shorter wings for Battroid mode?) · SAP Unit Complete · SAP Squire Drone × 4 (Yay!) · Complete joint parts for soul STAGE · Replacement antenna Quote
sh9000 Posted June 30, 2017 Posted June 30, 2017 On 6/25/2017 at 7:19 PM, sh9000 said: It would be cool if these are included. 5 minutes ago, Delta said: SAP Squire Drone × 4 Yay! Quote
Duymon Posted June 30, 2017 Posted June 30, 2017 I hate you all. Why did I have to check this topic? Now I need to stay up late on sunday Quote
ArchieNov Posted June 30, 2017 Posted June 30, 2017 2 hours ago, Ignacio Ocamica said: You mean this tab right? Shouldn't that be enoug?. Yes, I was referring to those tabs. I don't have the ET version, but the reviews I've seen/read show that they also have only one set of tabs connecting the arms to the legs (same as what the HMR has). But in the case of the HMR, the tabs are proportionately larger and the legs won't be as heavy, so hopefully it won't be as flimsy as the ET version. 1 hour ago, anime52k8 said: it's got at least 100% more tabs than the ET version. I dunno. They both seem to have the same number of tabs for the arms and legs. I would like to be wrong though. Quote
seti88 Posted June 30, 2017 Posted June 30, 2017 2 hours ago, anime52k8 said: it's got at least 100% more tabs than the ET version. line art says... mechanically that's how it's supposed to work but it's more dressed up than on the toy. Yeah the lineart back support bar looks way btr and out of the way than the HMR or evo implementations. I guess it was too difficult to follow the lineart, not sure how that would work in physical form, looks like possibility of the disc moving along the top ceiling of the cannon pack, or compression going on at the hinge. Macross lineart is always da bomb. Look at em gorgeous lines, and i thk the HMR captured a lot of it. Quote
wm cheng Posted June 30, 2017 Posted June 30, 2017 Can't believe this is 1/100?! It certainly turned out so much better than I had hoped. It could almost pass for a 1/60DX. The bottom kibble is fine for this "anime magic" transformation process too (in fact there is some kibble/mechanical stuff in that area even in the lineart). So impressed, definitely captured the sleekness of the design. Might need to get 2 one in each mode... Not looking forward to the Pre-order madness though Maybe MacrossII isn't as popular?! One can hope. Please no one on these boards buy it, its not really the Holy Floating Head's design afterall Quote
sh9000 Posted June 30, 2017 Posted June 30, 2017 https://www.loopaza.com/brand/hi-metal-r/hi-metal-r-vf-2ss-valkyrie-ii-sap-silvie-gena-used-macross-ii.html Already available for preorder at Loopaza. Limit 1. Shipping to the US sucks but it should be reasonable for countries next to them. Quote
Duymon Posted June 30, 2017 Posted June 30, 2017 (edited) to put it n perspective...this is a 1/100 valk with dx-vf25 v2 pricing. I hope the price is cuz it's such a niche valk. Bandai better not go all Play Arts Kai on us with the pricing >_< Edited June 30, 2017 by Duymon Quote
auberondreaming Posted June 30, 2017 Posted June 30, 2017 I'm unfamiliar with Loopaza. Any experiences anyone can share? I might spend a bit more to avoid late night PO. Quote
Roy Focker Posted June 30, 2017 Posted June 30, 2017 I wasn't that eager to get a VF-2 but after looking at those pics I think it would make a fine addition to my collection. Quote
505thAirborne Posted June 30, 2017 Posted June 30, 2017 8 hours ago, no3Ljm said: One thing for sure, and members here will surely agree, that underside is better than this... This one is much better looking even if it still says 'The picture is for illustrative purposes only'. Here's the lineart for comparison. It's like Night & Day with these two VF's. I appreciate ET giving it a try, but Bandai has come through with a true winner! See you all on PO night!! Quote
UN Spacy Posted June 30, 2017 Posted June 30, 2017 What should I do with my piece of crap ET version? Quote
treatment Posted June 30, 2017 Posted June 30, 2017 4 minutes ago, UN Spacy said: What should I do with my piece of crap ET version? Ask ET for a refund. If they refuse, demand trial by combat... Quote
mechaninac Posted June 30, 2017 Posted June 30, 2017 (edited) ^ Keep it in Battroid, or GERWALK, mode forever; that, or use it for BB-gun target practice... maybe strap it to a M80 and watch the pieces fly in a most satisfying fashion... Edited June 30, 2017 by mechaninac Quote
anime52k8 Posted June 30, 2017 Posted June 30, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, Duymon said: to put it n perspective...this is a 1/100 valk with dx-vf25 v2 pricing. I hope the price is cuz it's such a niche valk. Bandai better not go all Play Arts Kai on us with the pricing >_< To be fair, this is a 1/100 scale valk with super parts for the price of a naked 1/60 scale valk. the price of a DX-25 renewal+super parts was 18,500 (if you could actually get it for that price). (and honestly I think the SAP packs do more than the VF-25 super parts). Edited June 30, 2017 by anime52k8 Quote
Boobytrap Posted June 30, 2017 Posted June 30, 2017 Awwwwww yeeeeaaaaahhhhhh!! Those are some awesome pics right there. The legs in fighter mode appear to be flush with the wings and go straight back (no drooping ) That gives me a lot of hope that fighter mode will have the proper flat profile. I also like that the gun is scaled better than ET's so it doesn't look like a pea shooter. I wonder if it is going to be able to be attached in basic fighter mode though. I didn't see any kind of connection point, but the view was limited so maybe it's still there. PO day can't get here soon enough. Quote
sh9000 Posted June 30, 2017 Posted June 30, 2017 I'm getting at least two. Meanwhile my ET version will forever stay MISB. Quote
no3Ljm Posted June 30, 2017 Posted June 30, 2017 7 hours ago, spacemanoeuvres said: I was 99% going to pass on this figure but it's growing on me lol You lose. It's the 1% that's going to make you buy this one. And not the 99% of avoiding it. 6 hours ago, auberondreaming said: That's the way you do a vf-2! I hope this has a ton of interest so one of the two companies who know what they are doing take a shot at a 1/60th version with this engineering. You can bet that Evolution Toys will go back to their drawing board once Bandai releases this so that they can reverse-engineer it and slap a 'Renewal/ver.2' on their 1/60 release and charge us Y38000 again. 5 hours ago, Duymon said: I hate you all. Why did I have to check this topic? Now I need to stay up late on sunday We hate you now for checking on this thread, Duymon. That means we have another contestant for PO night. 4 hours ago, ArchieNov said: Yes, I was referring to those tabs. I don't have the ET version, but the reviews I've seen/read show that they also have only one set of tabs connecting the arms to the legs (same as what the HMR has). But in the case of the HMR, the tabs are proportionately larger and the legs won't be as heavy, so hopefully it won't be as flimsy as the ET version. I dunno. They both seem to have the same number of tabs for the arms and legs. I would like to be wrong though. From the looks of it, those tabs is somehow good enough since this is just a small toy. Bandai's tabs looks wider and bigger for a 1/100 figure compared to the Evolution's 1/60 figure. 4 hours ago, seti88 said: Yeah the lineart back support bar looks way btr and out of the way than the HMR or evo implementations. I guess it was too difficult to follow the lineart, not sure how that would work in physical form, looks like possibility of the disc moving along the top ceiling of the cannon pack, or compression going on at the hinge. Macross lineart is always da bomb. Look at em gorgeous lines, and i thk the HMR captured a lot of it. Gorgeous, right? I'm no HM-R collector, but I'm really really going to nab one of this. 4 hours ago, wm cheng said: Can't believe this is 1/100?! It certainly turned out so much better than I had hoped. It could almost pass for a 1/60DX. The bottom kibble is fine for this "anime magic" transformation process too (in fact there is some kibble/mechanical stuff in that area even in the lineart). So impressed, definitely captured the sleekness of the design. Might need to get 2 one in each mode... Not looking forward to the Pre-order madness though Maybe MacrossII isn't as popular?! One can hope. Please no one on these boards buy it, its not really the Holy Floating Head's design afterall Yup, me too. Hoping for two. But if I can actually nab one during PO madness, I'll be happy. Looking forward to see you on PO night, Mr. Cheng! 1 hour ago, 505thAirborne said: It's like Night & Day with these two VF's. I appreciate ET giving it a try, but Bandai has come through with a true winner! See you all on PO night!! Oh, you can really bet Evolution Toys will do another round of this one after Bandai's release. 54 minutes ago, Boobytrap said: I also like that the gun is scaled better than ET's so it doesn't look like a pea shooter. I wonder if it is going to be able to be attached in basic fighter mode though. I didn't see any kind of connection point, but the view was limited so maybe it's still there. IIRC, there was no indication that the gunpod can be attached in Fighter mode based on lineart. Quote
Big s Posted June 30, 2017 Posted June 30, 2017 I just can't stop looking at the pics. It just looks so good. I really like the extra swivel at the elbows for that anime style arm bend. Quote
Boobytrap Posted June 30, 2017 Posted June 30, 2017 20 minutes ago, no3Ljm said: IIRC, there was no indication that the gunpod can be attached in Fighter mode based on lineart. I don't know if it is anime accurate or not either but I would still like it to be there. I prefer that than just having it appear out of thin air for gerwalk or battroid. Quote
Lolicon Posted June 30, 2017 Posted June 30, 2017 The underside is still messy but way better than the ET version, and it's probably all in the original design anyway, rather than sloppiness on Bandai's part. For the price they're asking, this thing better be goddamn amazing. I find the HMR VF-1 to be disappointing, and as far as I can tell this will actually be the first real perfect transformation toy from the HMR line. At least I'm hoping there's no part-swapping. Quote
jenius Posted June 30, 2017 Posted June 30, 2017 At the very least, that canopy cover in battroid has to be a clip on part right? What's going on with the landing gear? It seems like this will be just as "perfect transformation" as the VF-1. Quote
ArchieNov Posted June 30, 2017 Posted June 30, 2017 (edited) I doubt it'll be perfect transformation just because the hands don't look like they fold in. Landing gear (if any) will also be a snap on part. I don't think HMR will satisfy you if you're after perfect transformation. Edited June 30, 2017 by ArchieNov Quote
Lolicon Posted June 30, 2017 Posted June 30, 2017 I won't have to dig out the goddamn heat shield or canopy from storage everytime I transform it. Quote
Delta Posted June 30, 2017 Posted June 30, 2017 I wonder about the hands as well. Clearly they need to be removed for fighter mode? Don't see any obvious way they could hide away. Quote
jenius Posted June 30, 2017 Posted June 30, 2017 (edited) Okay, so I guess this is the start of the "Make a DX" wishlist. 1) Integrated Heat shield 2) Integrated Hands 3) Integrated Landing gear Edited June 30, 2017 by jenius Quote
technoblue Posted June 30, 2017 Posted June 30, 2017 (edited) 7 minutes ago, jenius said: At the very least, that canopy cover in battroid has to be a clip on part right? What's going on with the landing gear? It seems like this will be just as "perfect transformation" as the VF-1. Looking at the pictures, I don't think the heatshield is a separate piece from the chest. It appears to be fixed, and the cockpit folds/slides underneath it. The landing gear are still a mystery. I wouldn't be surprised if they swap out like the VF-1 gear. Edited June 30, 2017 by technoblue Quote
Delta Posted June 30, 2017 Posted June 30, 2017 1 minute ago, technoblue said: Looking at the pictures, I don't think the heatshield is a separate piece from the chest. It appears to be fixed, and the cockpit folds/slides underneath it. The landing gear are still a mystery. I wouldn't be surprised if they swap out like the VF-1 gear. Agreed on both points. I see trap doors where the landing gear "should" be stored but they probably just swap-in/out once the doors are opened. I think this is just the cost of doing business for a VF at 1/100 scale. Quote
aaajin Posted June 30, 2017 Posted June 30, 2017 I guess the landing gears and hands will be non-perfect-transformation, but I can live with those (or leave the hands on while in fighter mode). Quote
Lolicon Posted June 30, 2017 Posted June 30, 2017 2 minutes ago, jenius said: Okay, so I guess this is the start of the "Make a DX" wishlist. 1) Integrated Heat shield 2) Integrated Hands 3) Integrated Landing gear I expect those to be standard for a DX release. I don't use the landing gear or chicken hands (they're as bad as the old 1/48 chicken hands) on the VF-1 but I dislike having to swap the canopy and gunpod handle to transform it. The VF-2SS is a larger aircraft so I'm hoping Bandai can do better this time around. Considering it's nearly double the price of an HMR VF-1 w/super parts, it better be. Quote
jenius Posted June 30, 2017 Posted June 30, 2017 14 minutes ago, technoblue said: Looking at the pictures, I don't think the heatshield is a separate piece from the chest. It appears to be fixed, and the cockpit folds/slides underneath it. The landing gear are still a mystery. I wouldn't be surprised if they swap out like the VF-1 gear. Yeah, I could see that, it is a bit of a simpler layout so it could all just work. The landing gear definitely don't have hinges so I think those being plug-ins is inevitable. Quote
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