mickyg Posted June 24, 2015 Posted June 24, 2015 No retractable wing gimmick on the Yamato (or Arcadia) offerings. I like the way it looks and it's the first thing that jumped out on me on these new images. Quote
no3Ljm Posted June 24, 2015 Posted June 24, 2015 But did Yamato v2s have a retractable gimmick for the battroid wings? No retractable wing gimiks for both Yamato's Ver 2's and Arcadia's reissues. Quote
rasky Posted June 24, 2015 Posted June 24, 2015 Small wings make the battroid mode look like its privates are exposed. !! Quote
mechaninac Posted June 24, 2015 Posted June 24, 2015 (edited) Small wings make the battroid mode look like its privates are exposed. !! Is that a nosecone or are you happy to see me?... Edited June 24, 2015 by mechaninac Quote
Loop Posted June 25, 2015 Posted June 25, 2015 Technically the wings are not retractable but swappable as far as I know. Quote
Kanedas Bike Posted June 25, 2015 Posted June 25, 2015 Well, I'd pre-ordered the VF-1J with GBP when that was first announced and I really like that Bandai updated the head sculpt on this VF-1S so I guess I'm officially "in" for this line, or at least these first two releases to see if I like them or not. And if nothing else I can put them at my desk at work and not care too much if anything happens to them. -b. Quote
barurutor Posted June 25, 2015 Posted June 25, 2015 I wonder if you can use the small wings from the VF-1S on the GBP 1J. Didn't the DYRL movie show Max 1S have small wings in the Milia dogfight? Quote
Old Man Posted June 25, 2015 Posted June 25, 2015 I actually hope the Armored 1J comes with the small wings instead of the standard wings without hard points. Quote
Zonnet Posted June 25, 2015 Posted June 25, 2015 (edited) interesting to see the use of part swapping for the wings in battroid on this second release unlike the 1J GBP So this is definitely not part of the transformation? Shame. I've been waiting for someone to figure out how to do that. The thing about VF-1 is that no manufacturer (that I know of) have gotten the VF-1 Battroid proportions right on a full transformation toy. Shoulders, head, forearms, hands, lower legs, feet (ankle rotation), chest, wings: all or some of these are always so far off the mark that the Battroid mode ends up looking bulky, clumsy and not very dynamic or heroic, no matter how cool the toy looks otherwise. That's why I haven't bothered getting any VF-1 toys (after Toynami masterpiece Max), even though it's THE valkyrie and one of my favourites. Anyway, I'll take swappable parts over bulky wings any day and will probably get this one and other Hi-Metals, if they turn out good. Edited June 25, 2015 by Zonnet Quote
jvmacross Posted June 25, 2015 Posted June 25, 2015 Per Tamashi Nations newsletter: 7月1日(水)よりご予約解禁! July 1st preorder for the VF-1S Hikaru Strike valkyrie? Quote
chyll2 Posted June 25, 2015 Posted June 25, 2015 So this is definitely not part of the transformation? Shame. I've been waiting for someone to figure out how to do that. The thing about VF-1 is that no manufacturer (that I know of) have gotten the VF-1 Battroid proportions right on a full transformation toy. Shoulders, head, forearms, hands, lower legs, feet (ankle rotation), chest, wings: all or some of these are always so far off the mark that the Battroid mode ends up looking bulky, clumsy and not very dynamic or heroic, no matter how cool the toy looks otherwise. That's why I haven't bothered getting any VF-1 toys (after Toynami masterpiece Max), even though it's THE valkyrie and one of my favourites. Anyway, I'll take swappable parts over bulky wings any day and will probably get this one and other Hi-Metals, if they turn out good. imo, the yamato v2 was able to get the proportion close in all mode. It is far by the best compromise. The real problem is actually caused by Anime magic, it is real bad that in order to have perfect transformation, manufacturer will need the real over technology Quote
xrentonx Posted June 25, 2015 Posted June 25, 2015 Pretty much...or something at a much larger scale...like 1/1 Quote
no3Ljm Posted June 25, 2015 Posted June 25, 2015 I wonder if you can use the small wings from the VF-1S on the GBP 1J. Didn't the DYRL movie show Max 1S have small wings in the Milia dogfight? Probably you can. But instead of the red stripe on the wing it will be black stripe. Quote
jaylive Posted June 25, 2015 Posted June 25, 2015 Per Tamashi Nations newsletter: 7月1日(水)よりご予約解禁! July 1st preorder for the VF-1S Hikaru Strike valkyrie? thank you! Quote
Zonnet Posted June 26, 2015 Posted June 26, 2015 (edited) imo, the yamato v2 was able to get the proportion close in all mode. It is far by the best compromise. The real problem is actually caused by Anime magic, it is real bad that in order to have perfect transformation, manufacturer will need the real over technology This is very true. Anime magic is hard (or impossible) to translate into real world and I think Yamato v2 is pretty nice overall. I like the idea of having some optional swappable parts though - like smaller wings and bigger hands for example - to make the Battroid mode look more anime accurate and dynamic. Edited June 26, 2015 by Zonnet Quote
calubin_175 Posted June 26, 2015 Posted June 26, 2015 That is the very reason that I avoid Yamato's line or most transforming toys for that matter. Hi Metal is relatively tolerable and simple enough to be treated as a playable toy. The VF-25 and YF-29, as well as Arcadia's VF-0 are the only transformables that I like as the original character was CG to begin with, making it easier to translate into 3D toys. The VF-19 is not too bad either. Quote
Plasticgoose Posted June 26, 2015 Posted June 26, 2015 Personally I really like this line for its scale and detail. I agree for the price, an Arcadia valk is worth the extra. Yet, I really would like integrated landing gear, I really do not care for the heat shield. From what I can tell on mine, there should be no internals within the legs or nose area that would prevent integrated landing gear. Bandai has already done this effect in vehicles of the same scale with great detail on their XIG UX-02 and UX-03 spaceships; wheels even spin along with wheel well bay doors. Quote
no3Ljm Posted June 26, 2015 Posted June 26, 2015 This is very true. Anime magic is hard (or impossible) to translate into real world and I think Yamato v2 is pretty nice overall. I like the idea of having some optional swappable parts though - like smaller wings and bigger hands for example - to make the Battroid mode look more anime accurate and dynamic. Yamato/Arcadia already nailed that one down even though I don't like it since it looks 'clown-ish' and more like 'boxing gloves' for me. I really still prefer the DYRL hands over the TV series hands. That is the very reason that I avoid Yamato's line or most transforming toys for that matter. Hi Metal is relatively tolerable and simple enough to be treated as a playable toy. The VF-25 and YF-29, as well as Arcadia's VF-0 are the only transformables that I like as the original character was CG to begin with, making it easier to translate into 3D toys. The VF-19 is not too bad either. Well, come to think of it, VF-0's almost has the same features as the VF-1's meaning even if it's animated via CG, it still has a longer wings than animated 'short wings'. Imagine now if the VF-1's were animated today via CG? It will almost be as identical as to what Yamato/Arcadia did. The only thing that they didn't do right is the proper transformation sequence for both VF's on the pelvic parts which is the folding intakes to the nosecone in which Bandai did on their 1/72 model kits. I don't think it's doable to maintain the 'perfect transformation' method. Quote
Black Valkyrie Posted June 26, 2015 Posted June 26, 2015 Hikaru's VF really looks nice with new head sculpt, now where are the rest. I hope they make Hi-Metal R VF-19A too. Quote
Zonnet Posted June 26, 2015 Posted June 26, 2015 (edited) Yamato/Arcadia already nailed that one down even though I don't like it since it looks 'clown-ish' and more like 'boxing gloves' for me. I really still prefer the DYRL hands over the TV series hands. I know what you mean It's a little bit about the rest of the proportions as well. This (or something close to this) is what I'd really like to see someday as a fully transforming toy, even if it meant couple swappable parts: One can dream. Meanwhile Hi-Metal R will do nicely. Edited June 26, 2015 by Zonnet Quote
arbit Posted June 26, 2015 Posted June 26, 2015 When Tamashi emphasizes "new head sculpt" in the ad, it makes me suspicious that they have not really upgraded the figure as a whole, just re-releasing the same old thing. It would be a shame that with all the advances in CAD design, manufacturing and improved joints, that they would not take the opportunity to make a whole new toy like Arcadia/Yamato does with new versions. I won't be all in on these until I have one in my hand to test. Quote
spanner Posted June 27, 2015 Posted June 27, 2015 I know what you mean It's a little bit about the rest of the proportions as well. This (or something close to this) is what I'd really like to see someday as a fully transforming toy, even if it meant couple swappable parts: One can dream. Meanwhile Hi-Metal R will do nicely. Hey I have that very same paint scheme on a v2 1/60! Hmmm that gun pod's stowable stock is interesting.. Quote
Major Focker Posted June 27, 2015 Posted June 27, 2015 first time i saw this. is it a revoltech or a model general release? or a custom? I know what you mean It's a little bit about the rest of the proportions as well. This (or something close to this) is what I'd really like to see someday as a fully transforming toy, even if it meant couple swappable parts: One can dream. Meanwhile Hi-Metal R will do nicely. Quote
no3Ljm Posted June 27, 2015 Posted June 27, 2015 first time i saw this. is it a revoltech or a model general release? or a custom? I believe it's a customized model kit based on the new designed VF-1J for Macross First. Quote
joppewo Posted June 29, 2015 Author Posted June 29, 2015 Tamashii page for VF-1S: http://tamashii.jp/item/11068/ Quote
barurutor Posted June 29, 2015 Posted June 29, 2015 looks pretty good for 1/100ish scale, I suppose pre-orders for the 1S were pretty good. Quote
TheLoneWolf Posted June 29, 2015 Posted June 29, 2015 Hopefully that paint job isn't final. The fast packs are too light and the skull on the heatshield is off center. Other than that, I'm loving the new 1S head scuplt. I also like how they're throwing in a saluting hand. I never had a problem with the wings in battroid mode, but it's nice that they're including optional small wings for those who'd prefer them over the stock wings. Quote
Mechapilot77 Posted June 29, 2015 Posted June 29, 2015 so does this mean tuesday late night for us? what time does it usually happen? like 3AM or so (EST) or 3PM Japan time (7/1)? Quote
barurutor Posted June 29, 2015 Posted June 29, 2015 PO is usually 4PM JST if I remember correctly. Quote
VALKYRIE ACE PILOT Posted June 29, 2015 Posted June 29, 2015 (edited) Well....I don`t know..that new head mismatches my childhood memories...Anyway... I hope Milia shows up soon so I may complete my squadron.. Edited June 29, 2015 by VALKYRIE ACE PILOT Quote
Mechapilot77 Posted June 29, 2015 Posted June 29, 2015 PO is usually 4PM JST if I remember correctly. oh yeah...so 4PM there is 3AM EST apparently. hehe. Quote
barurutor Posted June 30, 2015 Posted June 30, 2015 VF-1S Hikaru Strike Valkyrie PO page: Hobbysearch http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10334507 PO starts in ~12 hours! Quote
no3Ljm Posted June 30, 2015 Posted June 30, 2015 Price is nice. Good luck tonight (PST) everyone! Quote
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