Offswitch Posted April 27, 2015 Posted April 27, 2015 (edited) agree, its not like the old hi metal was bad but that new fighter is just....nice. the panel lines are deeper, scuplting is way more sharp. Well, it was posted that Kawamori personally helped rework the design... Maybe Bandai is doing what Arcadia did with the VF-0's and used the same previous engineering but with an updated sculpt. Edit: Haha, Vifam7 beat me to it. Edited April 27, 2015 by Offswitch Quote
SuperSenpai Posted April 27, 2015 Posted April 27, 2015 What are those dark sections of the backpack hinge? Perhaps they have chosen to construct that hinge with metal? Quote
Mommar Posted April 27, 2015 Posted April 27, 2015 Comparing the two that fighter mode is WAY better. I always thought the older versions were too blocky in fighter/gerwalk which is why I always kept them in Battroid. If they really are fixed these could be a lot better. Quote
EXO Posted April 27, 2015 Posted April 27, 2015 Wasn't it reported somewhere that Kawamori was making adjustments to the sculpt? Yup... I just didn't expect such a difference. I liked the original already for the the size of the toy but this is such an improvement from one angle. Need to see more pictures. What are those dark sections of the backpack hinge? Perhaps they have chosen to construct that hinge with metal? looks like it... Quote
Offswitch Posted April 27, 2015 Posted April 27, 2015 What are those dark sections of the backpack hinge? Perhaps they have chosen to construct that hinge with metal? Dunno if they're metal now (hope so!), but the early prototype for the original Hi-Metal also had that section dark. Quote
EXO Posted April 27, 2015 Posted April 27, 2015 It's plastic now... I think that's just black plastic on that image. The new one looks a bit shiny but it can still be plastic. I'm not sure if it needs metal either unless there was trouble with the FP's, which I never got. Quote
jvmacross Posted April 27, 2015 Posted April 27, 2015 or paint them... has any GBP toys ever came out with yellow missiles? Not really...but kind of.... Quote
Offswitch Posted April 27, 2015 Posted April 27, 2015 It's plastic now... I think that's just black plastic on that image. The new one looks a bit shiny but it can still be plastic. I'm not sure if it needs metal either unless there was trouble with the FP's, which I never got. Thanks for confirming that, EXO! Yeah, I never owned the original Hi-Metal, but I can't imagine them changing it to metal unless they really had to for the GBP armor or somehting. Not really...but kind of.... Dammit jvm, I thought that was a pic of a new variant for this new Hi-Metal R when I first saw that pic! Got my hopes up Quote
Frogze Posted April 28, 2015 Posted April 28, 2015 It seems that there is a change on the connection between the cockpit and the leading edge on top of the intakes. Sliding mechanism for a better proportioned battroid maybe? Quote
EXO Posted April 28, 2015 Posted April 28, 2015 It seems that there is a change on the connection between the cockpit and the leading edge on top of the intakes. Sliding mechanism for a better proportioned battroid maybe? Yes! I see it... Like the VF-0 and the v.2 VF-1. There is a lot of space between the intakes and the chest in battroid, hopefully this is a fix. Sharp eye! Quote
Duymon Posted April 28, 2015 Posted April 28, 2015 (edited) It's exactly the same mold to me. It's just the photoshop power and the other pic is a bad one. Edited April 28, 2015 by Duymon Quote
treatment Posted April 28, 2015 Posted April 28, 2015 It's exactly the same mold to me. It's just the photoshop power and the other pic is a bad one. I agree. Looks like the same proportions as the old one. Prolly just bad photography on the previous version pic. That said, maybe Bandai's using new plastic material and/or paint-finish for the new version. Quote
calubin_175 Posted April 28, 2015 Posted April 28, 2015 (edited) Just a friendly reminder that the VF 100's line that failed was pretty ambitious and they even included Macross Zero as a possible future release. This poster was inviting people to participate in a questionnaire for future releases. It is currently unknown whether Bandai has the rights to Macross PLUS, 7 and Zero. However, they did plan for a YF-21 Hi Metal back in the day. Oh wow, even the VT-1, VE-1 and VF-4 are on there. But the usually VF-4 gets more love than VF-3000, VA-3 etc. Edited April 28, 2015 by calubin_175 Quote
frankell05 Posted April 28, 2015 Posted April 28, 2015 if they made all of the ones in the poster I would get at least doubles of everything!!!!!!!!! I want my 1/100 yf-19!!!!! dang it. Quote
jenius Posted April 28, 2015 Posted April 28, 2015 The VF100 line was awful... so so awful. If they made all of those like they did the VF-25 VF100 toys you wouldn't get them all unless you were a glutton for punishment. Quote
EXO Posted April 28, 2015 Posted April 28, 2015 It seems that there is a change on the connection between the cockpit and the leading edge on top of the intakes. Sliding mechanism for a better proportioned battroid maybe?Yes! I see it... Like the VF-0 and the v.2 VF-1. There is a lot of space between the intakes and the chest in battroid, hopefully this is a fix. Sharp eye! Ooops... Looks like that feature was already there... I was just to afraid to transform my 1/100 because I noticed the head laser is starting to break off... sucks! Quote
chyll2 Posted April 28, 2015 Posted April 28, 2015 Just a friendly reminder that the VF 100's line that failed was pretty ambitious and they even included Macross Zero as a possible future release. This poster was inviting people to participate in a questionnaire for future releases. It is currently unknown whether Bandai has the rights to Macross PLUS, 7 and Zero. However, they did plan for a YF-21 Hi Metal back in the day. Oh wow, even the VT-1, VE-1 and VF-4 are on there. But the usually VF-4 gets more love than VF-3000, VA-3 etc. they are 1/100 and bandai being bandai, I think they can easily get license for those if they wanted to the problem is VF 100's are aweful and imo, did not sell well. Hi-metal before, imo, did not sell well because you can actually buy a yamato for the same price since they are heavily discounted Quote
calubin_175 Posted April 28, 2015 Posted April 28, 2015 Yamato's 1/60 v2 were only 9800 yen back in the day, despite being slightly post GFC times. But post GFC Bandai seriously overpriced everything. Quote
Guest davidwhangchoi Posted April 28, 2015 Posted April 28, 2015 I agree. Looks like the same proportions as the old one. Prolly just bad photography on the previous version pic. That said, maybe Bandai's using new plastic material and/or paint-finish for the new version. maybe i'll get one... maybe i won't get one Quote
VALKYRIE ACE PILOT Posted April 28, 2015 Posted April 28, 2015 (edited) Do you remember Hi Metal Love ?...This reissue is the passionate reply from Bandai to that MW love letter... Romance is in the air.. http://www.macrossworld.com/mwf/index.php?showtopic=36587&hl=%2Bmetal+%2Blove Edited April 28, 2015 by VALKYRIE ACE PILOT Quote
Zinjo Posted April 28, 2015 Posted April 28, 2015 (edited) They should have saved themselves a lot of headaches and just released these as 1/100 studio models of the fighters. The detail was AMAZING and make great display pieces for those who don't want transforming toys or build model kits, but love the VF fighter designs. I got the VF100- VF-25F & S limited edition static fighters with metalized paint and they are simply gorgeous as display models! Edited April 28, 2015 by Zinjo Quote
Scyla Posted April 28, 2015 Posted April 28, 2015 The VF100 line was awful... so so awful. If they made all of those like they did the VF-25 VF100 toys you wouldn't get them all unless you were a glutton for punishment. The video review from Vangelus made them look like they had a really fun play-pattern. On the other hand... that CollectionDX review.... Quote
Chronocidal Posted April 28, 2015 Posted April 28, 2015 Hi-metal before, imo, did not sell well because you can actually buy a yamato for the same price since they are heavily discounted The under/overpricing between Bandai and Yamato back then really screwed the original hi-metal line. Whether it was Bandai overpricing or underproducing the hi-metals, Yamato overproducing the v.2 VF-1s, or some combination of both, when I went looking at buying a hi-metal, they were more expensive than just about every single 1/60th VF-1 on the market. With Arcadia's pricing scale getting higher, the hi-metals may have more of a chance this time, but the market damage may be done, and Bandai might have a hard time selling an incredibly limited selection of 1/100 VF-1s to people who are already sitting on a complete line of 1/60ths. That nostalgia itch has been scratched, and that window is closed for a lot of people, and might not open for a long while. I just hope Bandai will milk their molds to the same extent that Yamato did. I think offering a more complete line is probably one thing that would convince people with limited space to sell off their 1/60ths for a more compact collection. Having the enemy mechs and destroids is already a huge benefit, but I wonder if it's enough for Bandai to actually call the line a success. Quote
spanner Posted April 28, 2015 Posted April 28, 2015 Dunno if they're metal now (hope so!), but the early prototype for the original Hi-Metal also had that section dark. sorry to say but this doesn't impress me at all.. especially those feet / exhaust tips. The whole thing actually just looks cheap and slapped together. Quote
Karaoke Ninja Posted April 28, 2015 Posted April 28, 2015 sorry to say but this doesn't impress me at all.. especially those feet / exhaust tips. The whole thing actually just looks cheap and slapped together. Good thing that's just the prototype for the original Hi-metal then huh? Quote
spanner Posted April 29, 2015 Posted April 29, 2015 Ohh.. So that's the original prototype.. i thought that was the new release.. sorry Quote
Mommar Posted April 29, 2015 Posted April 29, 2015 sorry to say but this doesn't impress me at all.. especially those feet / exhaust tips. The whole thing actually just looks cheap and slapped together. The original Hi-Metals were HORRIBLE looking in figher and gerwalk. Just like that pic really. Quote
Chronocidal Posted April 29, 2015 Posted April 29, 2015 Does Bandai just have some kind of natural inability to shape a nosecone correctly? Quote
mechaninac Posted April 29, 2015 Posted April 29, 2015 Does Bandai just have some kind of natural inability to shape a nosecone correctly? Where the VF-1 is concerned, that appears to be the case... Quote
jenius Posted April 29, 2015 Posted April 29, 2015 (edited) I think "horrible" might be over-stated. They definitely have some minor geometry problems and were FAT in the back when viewed from overhead... unfortunately I don't think I have a Yamato V2 overhead comparison: To be fair though, no toy comes close to that line art, even the Yamato V2 is quite a bit fat in the back in comparison (imagine the thickness of the arms otherwise!) Edited April 29, 2015 by jenius Quote
SuperSenpai Posted April 29, 2015 Posted April 29, 2015 I think "horrible" might be over-stated. They definitely have some minor geometry problems and were FAT in the back when viewed from overhead... unfortunately I don't think I have a Yamato V2 overhead comparison: To be fair though, no toy comes close to that line art, even the Yamato V2 is quite a bit fat in the back in comparison (imagine the thickness of the arms otherwise!) The overhead view of the line art VF-1 looks impossibly skinny in the rear section... like this is one example where I'd say that the line art got it wrong. Quote
EXO Posted April 29, 2015 Posted April 29, 2015 The battroid mode suffers though when the rear section is that skinny. The 1/48s have those ridiculously skinny arms. Quote
treatment Posted April 29, 2015 Posted April 29, 2015 I think the last time Bandai has a valk that was close to the lineart was their chogokin vf-25v1... Quote
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