Frogze Posted July 30, 2015 Posted July 30, 2015 I like what Bandai did with the shield in fighter mode, it's clever and makes fighter mode more streamlined while retained the PT factor to the toy. Of course Gerwalk then suffers from it but I must say I'm not a fan of the YF-19's gerwalk mode anyway so it's a good trade-off for me. Also the intakes in fighter mode look better than on Arcadia's and of course the tampo is very generously spread across all areas of the toy which is really neat. The super parts are garbage though, I'm still pissed because of that leg pack nonsense And I'm still experiencing difficulties during transformation from fighter to battroid. One of the legs (right one) has a scaringly tight peghole to the wingroot top peg (the one visible when the leg super parts are on) and it's an ordeal everytime I transform the thing from fighter mode to unpeg the right wingroot part. I suspect that tightness also pulls the whole leg out a bit when it's in fighter mode, preventing it to be as flush to the body as the left one and it's probably responsible for the gappier look on that side too. I might try sanding off a bit of the wingroot peg to try to fix it but since it's a complex pile of moving parts I'm not 100% sure it's the only origin of the problem on my sample. Quote
ArchieNov Posted July 30, 2015 Posted July 30, 2015 When pulling out that right wingroot peghole, try angling it a little upward as you do so. I found that this helps make it easier to pull out because the peg has a raised lip at the top of the end of the peg. Quote
Frogze Posted July 30, 2015 Posted July 30, 2015 Thanks, I'll try to do that next time. The left side is super smooth on mine, I wish both sides were that way, transformation would be a breeze! Quote
Scream Man Posted August 1, 2015 Author Posted August 1, 2015 Mines still tight as a drum after living in Battroid for weeks. Quote
raptormesh Posted August 1, 2015 Posted August 1, 2015 In my universe, Guld is alive and has an uprated and upgraded 21. Quote
derex3592 Posted August 1, 2015 Posted August 1, 2015 Is it wrong that I never even took my YF-21's Fast Packs's out of the box and attempted to put them on? Quote
jenius Posted August 1, 2015 Posted August 1, 2015 Nah, the YF-21 super parts don't really add a lot. Quote
Loop Posted August 1, 2015 Posted August 1, 2015 I put mine on, but they were kind of a pain in the ass to get on the wings. Also the way the 21's tail fins work, when fiddling with the super parts it will some times pop off. I left them on ever since and have not touched them since. Quote
no3Ljm Posted August 1, 2015 Posted August 1, 2015 Is it wrong that I never even took my YF-21's Fast Packs's out of the box and attempted to put them on? Nah. It's not wrong. I know it sounds nasty and weird, but ALL the Valks look SEXIER when they're NAKED. There you go. Quote
jenius Posted August 1, 2015 Posted August 1, 2015 I think "super parts" sort of lost their way after the original SDF Macross until Frontier. In SDF Macross they change the VF-1 from a well balanced vehicle into a bruiser... and that works because every now and then you need to call in the muscle. In Macross Plus the super parts don't look like they really add anything to any mode. They're so sleekly integrated that there's not much of a visual impact and you have to wonder what good they do. In Macross7 the super parts (with the exception of the VF-11C) look like last minute tack-ons that generally make the vehicles look unbalanced. I'd say Frontier gets back to super parts that make the sleek-looking underlying vehicle into more of a bruiser again. You can almost view the VF-19Advance and how those super parts look like random tack-ons as sort of a proper homage to the super parts between SDF Macross and Frontier. Quote
ChaoticYeti Posted August 1, 2015 Posted August 1, 2015 I think "super parts" sort of lost their way after the original SDF Macross until Frontier. In SDF Macross they change the VF-1 from a well balanced vehicle into a bruiser... and that works because every now and then you need to call in the muscle. In Macross Plus the super parts don't look like they really add anything to any mode. They're so sleekly integrated that there's not much of a visual impact and you have to wonder what good they do. In Macross7 the super parts (with the exception of the VF-11C) look like last minute tack-ons that generally make the vehicles look unbalanced. I'd say Frontier gets back to super parts that make the sleek-looking underlying vehicle into more of a bruiser again. You can almost view the VF-19Advance and how those super parts look like random tack-ons as sort of a proper homage to the super parts between SDF Macross and Frontier. The other nice thing about frontier is that they showed them being jetissoned or cached when entering atmosphere. I thought that was a nice detail. You see Gilliam do this in the first episode, and it is also done in the Galia 4 episode. Quote
derex3592 Posted August 1, 2015 Posted August 1, 2015 Agreed. The Frontier Valks to me follow a more natural progression from SDF Macross. I don't dislike the Plus or 7 stuff by any means, it just looks like it should come after Frontier to me. Quote
wmkjr Posted August 1, 2015 Posted August 1, 2015 (edited) I thought the valks in Plus only had Fast packs (with the exception to the VF-11) not supers. I would consider the YF-19 mounted with the VF-11 style boosters as the super version. Just got the Advance in so I can't wait to unbox it. Edited August 1, 2015 by wmkjr Quote
Keiichi Posted August 1, 2015 Posted August 1, 2015 I love the 19's gerwalk mode, the way the arms come out over the top of the valk just really does it for me for some reason. Is it wrong that I never even took my YF-21's Fast Packs's out of the box and attempted to put them on? Considering how difficult it is to remove the packs that attach to the arm, I personally think never putting them on in the first place is a smart move! I thought the valks in Plus only had Fast packs (with the exception to the VF-11) not supers. I would consider the YF-19 mounted with the VF-11 style boosters as the super version. Just got the Advance in so I can't wait to unbox it. That's what I thought as well, and grats on the Advance! Quote
treatment Posted August 2, 2015 Posted August 2, 2015 The other nice thing about frontier is that they showed them being jetissoned or cached when entering atmosphere. I thought that was a nice detail. You see Gilliam do this in the first episode, and it is also done in the Galia 4 episode. Well, Isamu jettisoned his dildo-fold pack before entering Earth's atmosphere... Quote
wm cheng Posted August 2, 2015 Posted August 2, 2015 Is there a trick to getting the fast packs to click into the top round peg/divit? I've got it in the rectangular bottom connection and the round peg into the weapons holes in the underside of the wings - and its pretty study, but I'd like to get it into the top round peg/divit - is there a trick to this? BTW - I'm really enjoying this toy! Its fantastic and really fun to play and transform. I haven't even touched my Arcadia since I had to find all the decals for it and I've never even transformed that one since I've gotten it. Quote
spanner Posted August 2, 2015 Posted August 2, 2015 Is there a trick to getting the fast packs to click into the top round peg/divit? I've got it in the rectangular bottom connection and the round peg into the weapons holes in the underside of the wings - and its pretty study, but I'd like to get it into the top round peg/divit - is there a trick to this? BTW - I'm really enjoying this toy! Its fantastic and really fun to play and transform. I haven't even touched my Arcadia since I had to find all the decals for it and I've never even transformed that one since I've gotten it. some guys in here posted up some very helpful material regarding this a few pages back.. Quote
mickyg Posted August 2, 2015 Posted August 2, 2015 WM, the hole/divot seems to still be visible, even when the peg in the booster is properly engaged. You've probably got it right already. Ditto on the fun factor with this one! Quote
Valkyrie Driver Posted August 2, 2015 Posted August 2, 2015 It's nice to see that this toy is so thoroughly enjoyable, it makes me feel good about my purchase. Now, if only it would hurry up and get here... Quote
M'Kyuun Posted August 3, 2015 Posted August 3, 2015 Definitely proving more durable than the Arcadia; I've had mine in battroid with full packs holding a pose next to my Arcadia for about 3 weeks now, and the wings haven't drooped in the least. Very solid. My Arcadia's ankle joints are pretty loose, esp the right, so that's a huge detractor when your $300 toy is so precarious in a standing position. I love them both, but based on durability and overall engineering, I'd go with the Bandai. Just watched the M+ 4 part OVA. After 20 years, it's still phenomenally magical to watch, and it really makes me appreciate how well done these latest -19 toys are, esp if you look back at Yamato's old 1/72. It also drives home the necessity of a new improved -21 with more lineart proportionate battroid. Quote
mog_kupo Posted August 3, 2015 Posted August 3, 2015 In case you dont have one already Or just want doubles http://www.hlj.com/product/BAN992012/Act Quote
neoexcaliber Posted August 3, 2015 Posted August 3, 2015 I think many want more but we're afraid of getting suspended for going over the limit. Quote
ArchieNov Posted August 3, 2015 Posted August 3, 2015 Definitely proving more durable than the Arcadia; I've had mine in battroid with full packs holding a pose next to my Arcadia for about 3 weeks now, and the wings haven't drooped in the least. Very solid. My Arcadia's ankle joints are pretty loose, esp the right, so that's a huge detractor when your $300 toy is so precarious in a standing position. I love them both, but based on durability and overall engineering, I'd go with the Bandai. I left my Arcadia YF-19 standing one time and it fell face first (or uniboob first) on the table, slightly denting the tip of the nosecone in the process. After that incident, I will never trust it to stand on its own ever again. Quote
jenius Posted August 3, 2015 Posted August 3, 2015 (edited) At that price it'd be worth buying as an investment, it's been selling better than that elsewhere. I hope some people who wanted it but legitimately haven't been able to get it grab it before scalpers do. Edited August 3, 2015 by jenius Quote
F360 Posted August 3, 2015 Posted August 3, 2015 Yeah, that's a great price., If you already got one from HLJ, you can always call up 1 of your friends to ask them to order it for you due to the limit 1 per customer thing. Quote
treatment Posted August 3, 2015 Posted August 3, 2015 And gone... Again. Yeah. Seems there's quite alot of people who have extra disposable money for it... Quote
no3Ljm Posted August 3, 2015 Posted August 3, 2015 Hahaha! Or it's just payday for some of us last week. Hehehe. I sold my extra one to a friend of mine for the same price when I got it from HLJ just to fund my other upcoming PO's. Quote
ChaoticYeti Posted August 3, 2015 Posted August 3, 2015 (edited) Rearranging my shelves, and realized I had all of my 19's in battroid. Edited August 3, 2015 by ChaoticYeti Quote
no3Ljm Posted August 3, 2015 Posted August 3, 2015 Remember '19'. Oh, wait was it 19 or 16? Awesome 19 collection, Yeti. No love for Basara? Quote
ChaoticYeti Posted August 3, 2015 Posted August 3, 2015 Remember '19'. Oh, wait was it 19 or 16? Awesome 19 collection, Yeti. No love for Basara? Every now and than I am tempted, but never enough to actually pick him up. Money better spent elsewhere. Quote
treatment Posted August 3, 2015 Posted August 3, 2015 Rearranging my shelves, and realized I had all of my 19's in battroid. Man, the Arcadia and Yamato 19s have really dorky Steve Urkel ankles exposed like that. The Bandai looks quite nicer in managng to hide it. Quote
jenius Posted August 3, 2015 Posted August 3, 2015 He could recess those ankles to get rid of the floods look, he has them in "dynamic action" position. Quote
treatment Posted August 3, 2015 Posted August 3, 2015 "dynamic action" position should really be renamed as "planting rice" position... Quote
spanner Posted August 3, 2015 Posted August 3, 2015 Rearranging my shelves, and realized I had all of my 19's in battroid. What a great shot! Pretty much the whole 19 family! Don't you own a Kai? Quote
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