ChaoticYeti Posted June 1, 2015 Posted June 1, 2015 True. Knowing that Max uses 2(1J) and 4(1S). And he's better than Isamu, right? Debatable. They are both fictional characters. It would depend of the writers Quote
no3Ljm Posted June 1, 2015 Posted June 1, 2015 Hahaha! I know, Yeti. It's just that the blue-haired guy always referred to as a 'genius' when piloting a valk. Quote
derex3592 Posted June 1, 2015 Posted June 1, 2015 Max would take Isuzu to school all week long and twice on Sunday... Quote
ChaoticYeti Posted June 1, 2015 Posted June 1, 2015 It would be interesting, to say the least. Max in his 22s vs Isamu in this 19adv. Quote
Mommar Posted June 2, 2015 Posted June 2, 2015 We're way off topic here, but I think it would be evenly matched. Max is even and precise, Isamu has the advantage of being reckless. Being unpredictable can throw off almost anyone. Some of the tampo looks good, other parts are big, blotchy and obnoxious like on the 171. Quote
ArchieNov Posted June 2, 2015 Posted June 2, 2015 Max made Miriya look like a joke. And Miriya was the best of the best in the realm of the Zentraedi's rule across the galaxy. Isamu is good. But he couldn't beat a Ghost drone. Quote
Loop Posted June 2, 2015 Posted June 2, 2015 I don't really think it was that he could not beat the X9, I think it was more of Guld's "awakening" from the mental block. He finally realized that it was Isamu's girl to get. Quote
HG Blows Posted June 2, 2015 Posted June 2, 2015 Someone should start a poll, id vote max. It's like the Jordan/Lebron debate, it's Jordan, and it's not even close... Quote
M'Kyuun Posted June 2, 2015 Posted June 2, 2015 My money would be on Max as well. He's a jenius. It was a good move on Kawamori's part to differentiate Isamu's style from Jenius', given that both are innately skilled pilots. His scenes in the 19, esp when competing against Guld, are just incredibly fun, and funny. Quote
Guest davidwhangchoi Posted June 2, 2015 Posted June 2, 2015 i think they said the guy flying with a guitar is better than Max Quote
ArchieNov Posted June 2, 2015 Posted June 2, 2015 He had the potential. But Max was still better. Quote
Brand-X Posted June 2, 2015 Posted June 2, 2015 I'd rate both equal, but each are so different in their styles that I think a 1 on 1 fight would depend entirely on circumstances. It wouldn't be luck that would win either the day, it would be very tiny circumstances that ensured each one their victory in very specific circumstances I think. It's pure piloting skill and technicality versus recklessness and innate talent. I couldn't pick a winner, the two are at the very height of the Macross universe's pilots, and we'll never see them fight each other to prove who's best. Quote
ArchieNov Posted June 2, 2015 Posted June 2, 2015 I know we're way off topic here already, but Max and Isamu are not equal in terms of piloting skill. Again, not saying Isamu isn't great. He's one of the best. But Max is on a different level. Several forums and discussions have already been made on who is the best pilot in the Macross universe of all time and the final result has always been Max. I even read a post that said in the novelization of the Wings of Goodbye, Max and Millia were still piloting Valks. And even Isamu was amazed at their awesomeness. Quote
Mommar Posted June 2, 2015 Posted June 2, 2015 I even read a post that said in the novelization of the Wings of Goodbye, Max and Millia were still piloting Valks. And even Isamu was amazed at their awesomeness. Really? I would like to hear more about that. Quote
no3Ljm Posted June 2, 2015 Posted June 2, 2015 I know we're way off topic here already, but Max and Isamu are not equal in terms of piloting skill. Again, not saying Isamu isn't great. He's one of the best. But Max is on a different level. Several forums and discussions have already been made on who is the best pilot in the Macross universe of all time and the final result has always been Max. I even read a post that said in the novelization of the Wings of Goodbye, Max and Millia were still piloting Valks. And even Isamu was amazed at their awesomeness. Wow. Love to hear that as well. By then, he was in his late 60s, right? Quote
David Hingtgen Posted June 2, 2015 Posted June 2, 2015 While gloss white landing gear is canon for most valks and real planes, those on French-built planes are often painted silver, so there is some precedent. (Go look at a Mirage, Airbus, or the Concorde) Quote
ArchieNov Posted June 2, 2015 Posted June 2, 2015 I didn't read the novel myself, so I don't know any more about it than what was posted in the forum. But here's the link to that discussion. It's found close to the end and the poster's name was ReddyRedWolf. http://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/maximilian-jenius-vs-alto-saotome.209039/ But in any case, people have also quoted Kawamori himself stating that Max is the best so that kinda ends any debate. Quote
ErikElvis Posted June 2, 2015 Posted June 2, 2015 (edited) I've gotta go with Isamu. Plus drew me back into macross and I always thought Isamu was the greatest. End of discussion only my thoughts matter. Edited June 2, 2015 by ErikElvis Quote
Loop Posted June 3, 2015 Posted June 3, 2015 Well, Isamu is also still flying but with the SMS at the end of the movies. I like both really, so I am not going to choose plus one of them has luck as a skill so that throws a wrench in to it. Quote
Duymon Posted June 3, 2015 Posted June 3, 2015 Dunno why this thread went totally off but I'll vote for whoever gets me a preorder Quote
spanner Posted June 3, 2015 Posted June 3, 2015 (edited) Different era's, different mecha, different skills.. in their own times they are all as great as each other! Nuff said.. Now back on topic Edited June 3, 2015 by spanner76 Quote
Guest davidwhangchoi Posted June 3, 2015 Posted June 3, 2015 i said the guy with the guitar is better. why is there any debate? Quote
neoexcaliber Posted June 3, 2015 Posted June 3, 2015 i said the guy with the guitar is better. why is there any debate? Because most of us thought you were joking. Any speculation as to the box size? I wonder if it'll have more depth compared to the VF-27 Super set. Quote
Guest davidwhangchoi Posted June 3, 2015 Posted June 3, 2015 Because most of us thought you were joking. yeah, i really don't care about a dude with a guitar unless he has pineapple salad. box will have to be at least 27 or rvf 25 thickness. Quote
cmx168 Posted June 3, 2015 Posted June 3, 2015 does anybody know why i don't get a messages that say people are posting in this topic? I've subscribed but i get nothing... Quote
jenius Posted June 3, 2015 Posted June 3, 2015 Because the filter sees how irrelevant all the posts are and does you a solid. j/k Quote
mickyg Posted June 3, 2015 Posted June 3, 2015 Nice one Jenius!I use the "view new content" tab thingy on my computer browser, or the "New Content" tile on my phone. I've never had any luck with individual threads. Quote
cmx168 Posted June 3, 2015 Posted June 3, 2015 Yeah I want a trigger when somebody posts a new thread say for example somebody says look! Hlj order page is live again!! Since I always seem to miss it... Most forums you can set a reminder for new posts. Quote
calubin_175 Posted June 3, 2015 Posted June 3, 2015 HLJ is renowned for necromancy. That VF-22S Miria from few months back must have been loose stock/preowned. Hobbysearch has unsealed preowned but sold at original price. AE still has that YF-19 unit 4 for 22k. A small premium above the initial price. Quote
CF18 Posted June 3, 2015 Posted June 3, 2015 Isamu don't care about head laser because he prefer out flying missiles instead of shooting them down. He probably got stuck with the head design even in the YF-29 because it is associated with him in all those "Hero that saved Macross city" posters from Shinsei Industry. Quote
cmx168 Posted June 3, 2015 Posted June 3, 2015 HLJ is renowned for necromancy. That VF-22S Miria from few months back must have been loose stock/preowned. Hobbysearch has unsealed preowned but sold at original price. AE still has that YF-19 unit 4 for 22k. A small premium above the initial price. which site is AE? Quote
chyll2 Posted June 3, 2015 Posted June 3, 2015 http://www.anime-export.com/product/23437 cause it is VF not YF though it is no longer available as well. If NY price of 26k got sold out, I am sure that 22k will be sold fast Quote
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