chyll2 Posted November 24, 2014 Posted November 24, 2014 I want to see the fighter mode without any fastpack. I guess we need to wait for another announcement about price and availability for another hype. Quote
Chronocidal Posted November 24, 2014 Posted November 24, 2014 (edited) Actually, one thing I find funny is that the shape of the underside of the nose is closer to one particular piece of YF-19 lineart than the Arcadia version. Unfortunately, it's also an ugly piece of lineart that has a really uneven curvature underneath, and a bulbous center section that doesn't give the plane clean lines at all. Can't get to the pic from my phone, or I would link it. Edited November 24, 2014 by Chronocidal Quote
Mechapilot77 Posted November 24, 2014 Posted November 24, 2014 looking at the pics in my thread, yeah i need this in my life, like 2 of them. i still think the original fighter mode on the arcadia is better but they aren't technically the same valk so its still not an apples to apples comparison but oh well. getting this....super packs look pretty good on there too. wonder if this valk will also show up in macross delta somehow. Quote
Mommar Posted November 24, 2014 Posted November 24, 2014 Actually, one thing I find funny is that the shape of the underside of the nose is closer to one particular piece of YF-19 lineart than the Arcadia version. Unfortunately, it's also an ugly piece of lineart that has a really uneven curvature underneath, and a bulbous center section that doesn't give the plane clean lines at all. Can't get to the pic from my phone, or I would link it. I'm curious what you're referring to. Quote
Shin Densetsu Kai 7.0 Posted November 24, 2014 Posted November 24, 2014 Looks sleeker than the Arcadia one but previous experience with DX Valks leads me to believe this one will be a lot looser within a year. Quote
Reïvaj Posted November 24, 2014 Posted November 24, 2014 (edited) I would like to see a straight on side-shot of this thing. Everything has been off-angle by a bit. I think perhaps no one has taken that picture because the super parts would be in the middle. This is the closest I've found to a side-shot: Edited November 24, 2014 by Reïvaj Quote
chyll2 Posted November 24, 2014 Posted November 24, 2014 from what I understand from the first batch of picture, it is displayed behind a case that makes it harder to see on a straight angle (fighter mode is looking slightly upward towards the corner of the display box) Quote
Chronocidal Posted November 24, 2014 Posted November 24, 2014 (edited) I'm curious what you're referring to.It's nothing too terrible, but a lot of the original YF-19 lineart has a very uneven looking gullet. It's not about the size exactly, but more about the curvature of the underside.More modern interpretations of the design have a very smooth curve from the nose tip to the landing gear area, while the original art shows more of a bulbous center section where the panel that becomes the underside of the chest is located. It might be accurate to some of the art, but I've never liked the way it looks when the belly has that shape. It just doesn't look aerodynamic at all. Pics would help I'm sure.. here's one where that panel under the nose bulges out.. But here, you've got a continuous curve from the nose to between the intakes. It might be the way the assembly looks a little sloppy, but the underside of the nose looks like it's trying to look like the first picture. To me, it just looks like the plane is having trouble swallowing something. Really though, it's not even as bad as the lineart, and it's honestly annoying me that I even noticed the difference. Edited November 24, 2014 by Chronocidal Quote
jenius Posted November 24, 2014 Posted November 24, 2014 So GERWALK doesn't work with wing fast packs and that's why we haven't seen that mode right? Quote
ChaoticYeti Posted November 24, 2014 Posted November 24, 2014 I would assume that is the case. Only Fighterwalk, not full on gerwalk. Maybe they have it figured with the arms deployed, but that would look pretty cramped. Quote
Vi-RS Posted November 25, 2014 Posted November 25, 2014 It's a suicide to press that "G" button in the cockpit. Quote
Kanedas Bike Posted November 25, 2014 Posted November 25, 2014 I think perhaps no one has taken that picture because the super parts would be in the middle. This is the closest I've found to a side-shot: *snip* Bonus points for having "no gullet" but this 19 is so stylized, even in Fighter Mode. That's not necessarily a bad thing but I'm less and less inclined to try and do any direct comparisons to the Arcadia YF-19. This because the design inspiration (for lack of a better term) seem so different between the two releases (or released YF-19 vs. prototype VF-19). Line-art vs. stylized/animated model. -b. Quote
skullmilitia Posted November 25, 2014 Posted November 25, 2014 It's a suicide to press that "G" button in the cockpit. Only IRL, in Anime, it'd still work with tons of shoulder movement! Quote
Sildani Posted November 25, 2014 Posted November 25, 2014 Or the FAST packs would be explosively detached automatically. You'd have to rip off a big Post-it note with the word "DON'T" written on it first though. Quote
Mommar Posted November 25, 2014 Posted November 25, 2014 It's nothing too terrible, but a lot of the original YF-19 lineart has a very uneven looking gullet. It's not about the size exactly, but more about the curvature of the underside. More modern interpretations of the design have a very smooth curve from the nose tip to the landing gear area, while the original art shows more of a bulbous center section where the panel that becomes the underside of the chest is located. It might be accurate to some of the art, but I've never liked the way it looks when the belly has that shape. It just doesn't look aerodynamic at all. Pics would help I'm sure.. here's one where that panel under the nose bulges out.. Ah, I see. I noticed that too. I wasn't sure if I was crazy or being hypercritical but something about under the nose kept on bothering me too. Now that you've pointed it out that's exactly what I was seeing too. I'm not convinced all of these stylized tweaks will be to my liking but I'm willing to buy one because I'm curious how they've implemented some of the toy. I still maintain they did some good stuff on the HI-Metals even though I thoroughly hate how fighter and gerwalk look. Quote
AlphaOne Posted November 25, 2014 Posted November 25, 2014 Looking at this, I'm breaking down and ordering 3 of these pretty girls. Quote
arbit Posted November 25, 2014 Posted November 25, 2014 I wonder if Bandai's VF-19 will have a nose-cone that locks in place in fighter mode. I'm surprised no one has commented that Arcadia's YF-19 nose-cone does not hold in place. Or is mine the only one? Quote
ChaoticYeti Posted November 25, 2014 Posted November 25, 2014 I have no issues with the nose on mine. Quote
MacrossJunkie Posted November 25, 2014 Posted November 25, 2014 The noses on the two 19's I have lock in place just fine also. Quote
ChaoticYeti Posted November 25, 2014 Posted November 25, 2014 I wonder if Bandai's VF-19 will have a nose-cone that locks in place in fighter mode. I'm surprised no one has commented that Arcadia's YF-19 nose-cone does not hold in place. Or is mine the only one? Maybe you have the nose mistransformed. Check to see if the black tip fowardmost of the cockpit is correctly seated. It recesses for battroid. Quote
David Hingtgen Posted November 26, 2014 Posted November 26, 2014 Nope, mine had that problem. Did the nail polish fix. (FULLY moving the black glareshield into place actually makes it worse, 95% is a better fit for the nose, but was visibly misaligned prior to the fix) Quote
Valkyrie addict Posted November 26, 2014 Posted November 26, 2014 I will get this to compare with the Arcadia floppy ankle mess. This is Bandai's trump card against Arcadia. Quote
Silverstreak Posted November 26, 2014 Posted November 26, 2014 Nope, mine had that problem. Did the nail polish fix. (FULLY moving the black glareshield into place actually makes it worse, 95% is a better fit for the nose, but was visibly misaligned prior to the fix) What's the nail polish fix? Quote
no3Ljm Posted November 26, 2014 Posted November 26, 2014 Liking it so far. Will probably get one next year to display beside YF-29. Assuming I get a new gig by next year. Quote
arbit Posted November 26, 2014 Posted November 26, 2014 What are these T-Rex super packs people are talking about? Are there super parts for the Arcadia YF-19? Quote
wmkjr Posted November 26, 2014 Posted November 26, 2014 (edited) What are these T-Rex super packs people are talking about? Are there super parts for the Arcadia YF-19? They were sold at this last Summer WonderFest as a limited release item. Super rare and pricey as I believe only 40 (20 of each color) were produced. They are for the Arcadia YF-19 and there is a set of pics a couple of pages back. GERWALK looks fine with these. Too bad not everyone can get them. Edited November 26, 2014 by wmkjr Quote
jenius Posted November 26, 2014 Posted November 26, 2014 They were sold at this last Summer WonderFest as a limited release item. Super rare and pricey as I believe only 40 (20 of each color) were produced. They are for the Arcadia YF-19 and there is a set of pics a couple of pages back. GERWALK looks fine with these. Too bad not everyone can get them. I would say GERWALK looks 'possible' but I'm guessing there are some serious range of movement issues there. Quote
Mommar Posted November 26, 2014 Posted November 26, 2014 I would say GERWALK looks 'possible' but I'm guessing there are some serious range of movement issues there. No more than the 25's had. Quote
jenius Posted November 26, 2014 Posted November 26, 2014 No more than the 25's had. The only thing that makes me think it might be worse is it looks like the arms need to be rotated forward at the shoulder to make space for the boosters but that might be an optical illusion and just the way it happened to be posed. Quote
M'Kyuun Posted November 26, 2014 Posted November 26, 2014 Those Frontier Packs look really out of place on the VF-19, to me anyway. I can appreciate trying to make it fit into the Frontier-verse, but I think they should have eschewed the wing packs in lieu of maybe some beefier leg packs or wrap-around armor like the VF-171. The 19's wings are kibble enough on their own in battroid without large Packs hanging off of them. Moreover, that spells shortened life on that wing root joint before it becomes floppy, unless it contains a robust ratchet. My own preference is to leave my YF-19 naked, as I love its design, and FAST Packs don't enhance its appearance as well as some of the other valks, the VF-1 most notably. Just my opinion. Quote
Chronocidal Posted November 27, 2014 Posted November 27, 2014 I don't mind the packs in fighter mode so much, but have to agree they're horribly clunky and out of place on the design otherwise. They're just so out of place in battroid mode, and Bandai clearly has no faith in the joints' ability to hold them up so they don't drag on the ground. On the plus-side though, if it means we never have to look at the atmospheric VF-19 packs again, I'm perfectly okay with the updated design. Quote
Kicker773 Posted November 27, 2014 Posted November 27, 2014 They were sold at this last Summer WonderFest as a limited release item. Super rare and pricey as I believe only 40 (20 of each color) were produced. They are for the Arcadia YF-19 and there is a set of pics a couple of pages back. GERWALK looks fine with these. Too bad not everyone can get them. Quote
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