David Hingtgen Posted September 25, 2015 Posted September 25, 2015 The Draken does seem to be enjoying a resurgence in popularity/awareness worldwide----several new model kits/releases the past few years, after decades of nothing. So it's an older jet that's "in" now, much like the F-8 was a few years back.
neoexcaliber Posted September 25, 2015 Posted September 25, 2015 It might be wishful thinking, but I expect at least the first couple of kits to be revealed as soon as tomorrow. Bandai, Hasegawa, Wave, bring it on! I was thinking the same thing but I didn't want to jump the gun. I'm awake and ready for updates!
Mommar Posted September 25, 2015 Posted September 25, 2015 My feeling about the blue and white fighter is that it's definitely of the YF-30 pedigree but it appears to have a hull redesign/upgrade in a similar fashion to the 19's upgrade to the F/S/P/etc. variants. Similar but streamlined.
antibiotictab Posted September 25, 2015 Posted September 25, 2015 (edited) BTW, AFAIK, the numbered tickets of the stage events tomorrow will be distributed and those ones will be disappeared so early. [/font][/color] I have already arrived and waiting in line.I asked about the numbered ticket to the staffs of this event. And the answer is no such ones are needed. *facepalm* I got 2 tickets for the 2 events 2 years ago as I said before. I also came to the venue (Tokyo Big Sight) last year, but there were no events which fascinated me at the time. The rule might have been changed last year. *sigh* Ah, but anyway, I just have to wait for the opening time for about 35 munites. It' not too bad for me... Edited September 25, 2015 by antibiotictab
ChaoticYeti Posted September 25, 2015 Posted September 25, 2015 I have already arrived and waiting in line. I asked about the numbered ticket to the staffs of this event. And the answer is no such ones are needed. *facepalm* I got 2 tickets for the 2 events 2 years ago as I said before. I also came to the venue (Tokyo Big Sight) last year, but there were no events which fascinated me at the time. The rule might have been changed last year. *sigh* Ah, but anyway, I just have to wait for the opening time for about 35 munites. It' not too bad for me... Your journalism is greatly appreciated. I anticipate your updates with high expectations
no3Ljm Posted September 26, 2015 Posted September 26, 2015 I have already arrived and waiting in line. I asked about the numbered ticket to the staffs of this event. And the answer is no such ones are needed. *facepalm* I got 2 tickets for the 2 events 2 years ago as I said before. I also came to the venue (Tokyo Big Sight) last year, but there were no events which fascinated me at the time. The rule might have been changed last year. *sigh* Ah, but anyway, I just have to wait for the opening time for about 35 munites. It' not too bad for me... Have fun antibiotictab! Will await for your good news. Please extend our love for us to the Macross community there.
antibiotictab Posted September 26, 2015 Posted September 26, 2015 Have fun antibiotictab! Will await for your good news. Please extend our love for us to the Macross community there. I can see a certain MF member who also is waiting. He is standing in line as far as my eyes can reach.
valk1j Posted September 26, 2015 Posted September 26, 2015 Anticipation building, having flashbacks to frontier and waiting for every tid bit of information.
Gubaba Posted September 26, 2015 Posted September 26, 2015 Except in this case, there doesn't seem to be a manga adaptation forthcoming...? At least, I haven't seen anything about one.
wolfx Posted September 26, 2015 Posted September 26, 2015 That's awesome Yeti ... solves the forward swept wing debate for me at least. As for the symbol, I did a google image search and the closest thing was the hood symbol for a Nissian Silvia I'm sure it's just a coincidence, but I *really* hope this doesn't mean the theory it's about racing is correct. I just want a big intergalactic war, is that too much to ask? Good find. Not sure why the silvia has a logo on its own. But I long suspected that Nissan and Kawamori are somehow intimately linked. He designed that mecha version of the Nissan Dualis. Also there was a Nissan Frontier pickup truck. Coincidence? Hmm. *Xfiles music*
Cacophanus Posted September 26, 2015 Posted September 26, 2015 The new variable fighter definitely looks like a follow on from the YF-30, which makes a lot of sense considering it got a DX Chogokin. I did a quick news piece on Forbes about it too: http://www.forbes.com/sites/olliebarder/2015/09/25/upcoming-macross-delta-anime-shows-off-its-new-art-and-logo/
valkryenov Posted September 26, 2015 Posted September 26, 2015 I'm actually looking forward to VF vs VF dogfight scenes after looking at the picture.. it would be nice if NUNS squares off with anti UN, rebel, or rogue zentran fleet, hence the shift of focus to VF combat. But then again macross without music and love triangle, is not macross. On a note I agree that the red VF looks similar to saab J-35 draken.
Tochiro Posted September 26, 2015 Posted September 26, 2015 Ground Zero...I mean Delta They certainly are making the most of that key visual!
MisaForever Posted September 26, 2015 Posted September 26, 2015 Here I am!!! Out of the wood work!!! Running back to MW at the slightest inkling of a new series!!!! So yes, this all looks very cool. *nodnod* And like Gubaba, I too am hoping to hear about idols soon. I'M STOKED!!!!!
Bolt Posted September 26, 2015 Posted September 26, 2015 The new variable fighter definitely looks like a follow on from the YF-30, which makes a lot of sense considering it got a DX Chogokin. I did a quick news piece on Forbes about it too: http://www.forbes.com/sites/olliebarder/2015/09/25/upcoming-macross-delta-anime-shows-off-its-new-art-and-logo/ Wow my friend. Job well done👍👍 Considering the many nuances over 30 + years of Macross, you did a great job of rounding up. To a Forbes audience no less! Cheers mate!! B
Tochiro Posted September 26, 2015 Posted September 26, 2015 (edited) Some hints dropped by Kawamori during today's panel. (Going from memory and via my phone on-site): -The Valkyrie in the key visual is indeed influenced by the Draken. Recent real life plane designs tend to look similar due to stealth tech/designs elements. Therefore a fight between two Valkyries based on modern stealth planes wouldn't be that interesting. Similarly, they would be difficult to differentiate between in animation/dogfights. Kawamori liked the Draken when he was growing up, so he drew upon it for inspiration. Similarly, he referred to it as a Valkyrie so it does actually transform. -The white and blue valk is a logical progression on Valkyries seen to date. The 'Draken' valk is an all original transformation and this posed more of a challenge. -Different thruster colors - in-universe the Valkyries engine are made by different companies. The coloring also makes them easier to distinguish visually. -The relatively bright coloring of the white and blue valk is also an attempt to go against the visual trend of stealth fighters. -The Delta logo - it mainly represents the three main pillars of Macross. But the fact that the sides don't join indicates that the triangle is not a predetermined outcome. Some elements may or may not come together to necessarily form the triangle as expected. -The planet in the background of the logo is a hint regarding the setting. Details to be revealed on Oct 29. -Kawamori wanted to revisit valk vs valk combat in a TV series since he felt that this was something that hasn't been done in a TV iteration of Macross for a long time. -Major details including characters and setting will happen during the live stream on Oct 29. The winner of the idol contest will also be present. Edited September 26, 2015 by Tochiro
VF-15 Banshee Posted September 26, 2015 Posted September 26, 2015 The Hype Train has become a HYPE ROCKET!!!
seti88 Posted September 26, 2015 Posted September 26, 2015 Some hints dropped by Kawamori during today's panel. (Going from memory and via my phone on-site): -The Valkyrie in the key visual is indeed influenced by the Draken. Recent planes stat to look similar due to stealth tech/designs and a fight between two Valkyries based on modern stealth planes wouldn't be that interesting. Similarly, they would be difficult to differentiate between in animation/dogfights. Kawamori liked the Draken when he was growing up, so he drew upon it for inspiration. Similarly, he referred to it as a Valkyrie so it does actually transform. -The white and blue valk is a logical progression on Valkyries seen to date. The 'Draken' valk is an all original transformation and this posed more of a challenge. -Different thruster colors - in-universe the Valkyries engine are made by different companies. The coloring also makes them easier to distinguish visually. -The relatively bright coloring of the white and blue valk is also an attempt to go against the visual trend of stealth fighters. -The Delta logo - it mainly represents the three main pillars of Macross. But the fact that the sides don't join indicates that the triangle is not a predetermined outcome. Some elements may or may not come together to necessarily form the triangle as expected. -The planet in the background of the logo is a hint regarding the setting. Details to be revealed on Oct 29. -Kawamori wanted to revisit valk vs valk combat in a TV series since he felt that this was something that hasn't been done in a TV iteration of Macross for a long time. -Major details including characters and setting will happen during the live stream on Oct 29. The winner of the idol contest will also be present. nuggets galore! - transforming draken? this i gotta see..would it mean a faction wont be reliant on stealth then? Would be intrigued to see why that is so... - so the valk variant is a stealth? from the poster it looks like the draken is more stealthy.. a bright stealth fighter may be confusing to understand tho, i hope they would also have more logical stealth colors which wouldnt help chogokin sales either. - looking forward to Oct 29 on the planet...mayhaps the frontier fleet has finally made it home somewhere... - am gushing abt valk v valk combat! hopefully more mecha designs than an itano circus barrage....altho my wallet is starting to tighten up..... am so excited!! The Hype Train has become a HYPE ROCKET!!! and the rocket is about to enter fold space....sorry not sure what that means..
azrael Posted September 26, 2015 Posted September 26, 2015 Finally. We're going planet-side. Nice to have a change of scenery than the black background of outer space. Delta logo. Harem ending is best ending.
Valkyrie23 Posted September 26, 2015 Posted September 26, 2015 Valkyrie vs Valkyrie combat sounds awesome! I only remember valk to valk vombat from Macross Plus & Zero. Good times!
neoexcaliber Posted September 26, 2015 Posted September 26, 2015 Some hints dropped by Kawamori during today's panel. (Going from memory and via my phone on-site): -The Valkyrie in the key visual is indeed influenced by the Draken. Recent planes stat to look similar due to stealth tech/designs and a fight between two Valkyries based on modern stealth planes wouldn't be that interesting. Similarly, they would be difficult to differentiate between in animation/dogfights. Kawamori liked the Draken when he was growing up, so he drew upon it for inspiration. Similarly, he referred to it as a Valkyrie so it does actually transform. -The white and blue valk is a logical progression on Valkyries seen to date. The 'Draken' valk is an all original transformation and this posed more of a challenge. -Different thruster colors - in-universe the Valkyries engine are made by different companies. The coloring also makes them easier to distinguish visually. -The relatively bright coloring of the white and blue valk is also an attempt to go against the visual trend of stealth fighters. -The Delta logo - it mainly represents the three main pillars of Macross. But the fact that the sides don't join indicates that the triangle is not a predetermined outcome. Some elements may or may not come together to necessarily form the triangle as expected. -The planet in the background of the logo is a hint regarding the setting. Details to be revealed on Oct 29. -Kawamori wanted to revisit valk vs valk combat in a TV series since he felt that this was something that hasn't been done in a TV iteration of Macross for a long time. -Major details including characters and setting will happen during the live stream on Oct 29. The winner of the idol contest will also be present. Woohoo! Some very exciting bits indeed. Good to know he's revisiting the valk vs valk aspect. I'd be extremely happy if it's Plus meets Frontier. nuggets galore! - transforming draken? this i gotta see..would it mean a faction wont be reliant on stealth then? Would be intrigued to see why that is so... - so the valk variant is a stealth? from the poster it looks like the draken is more stealthy.. a bright stealth fighter may be confusing to understand tho, i hope they would also have more logical stealth colors which wouldnt help chogokin sales either. - looking forward to Oct 29 on the planet...mayhaps the frontier fleet has finally made it home somewhere... - am gushing abt valk v valk combat! hopefully more mecha designs than an itano circus barrage....altho my wallet is starting to tighten up..... am so excited!! and the rocket is about to enter fold space....sorry not sure what that means.. It might not have passive stealth but active stealth was introduced in Plus. As for the colours, I always assumed the Frontier and 7 valks were in bright colours to make them stand out vs a black, space background.
VF-15 Banshee Posted September 26, 2015 Posted September 26, 2015 well, there was Valk on Valk action in 7, or rather Valk on enemy variable mecha action. Although I suppose you could say that was over 20 years ago...
seti88 Posted September 26, 2015 Posted September 26, 2015 Woohoo! Some very exciting bits indeed. Good to know he's revisiting the valk vs valk aspect. I'd be extremely happy if it's Plus meets Frontier. It might not have passive stealth but active stealth was introduced in Plus. As for the colours, I always assumed the Frontier and 7 valks were in bright colours to make them stand out vs a black, space background. The cynic part of me wants to say they chose white blue cos its probably the cheaper ink to use..*jokes*...tho now being land based, it would make sense to blend into a sky like atmosphere....
Tochiro Posted September 26, 2015 Posted September 26, 2015 (edited) Just to confirm what was meant with the stealth comments - he is trying to steer away from stealth elements in REAL world designs when designing new valks. He wasn't referring to stealth being a factor at all in Delta. Edited September 26, 2015 by Tochiro
seti88 Posted September 26, 2015 Posted September 26, 2015 Just to confirm what was meant with the stealth comments - he is trying to steer away from stealth elemts in REAL world designs when designing new valks. He wasn't referring to stealth being a factor at all in Delta. Ah i see.... thanks for clearing that up....thats good... Avoid the all transformers look alike when they move so fast syndrome.... more pronounced and charestic shapes/lines on the valks! will eagerly anticipate the new valks line art....
raptormesh Posted September 26, 2015 Posted September 26, 2015 (edited) Yes!! Atmospheric dogfights for the absolute win. My anxiety will only be quelled by a poster depicting one of them valks firing a weapon. Or explosions! Else it may be lovey lovey race thing. Oh gourds... Edited September 26, 2015 by raptormesh
antibiotictab Posted September 26, 2015 Posted September 26, 2015 Hm. Almost all of the important things have already been told, I think. As a postscript, the stream in October will be done, but they didn't decide how to do it so far. At first, I think it'll be shown via Niconico, but it's not correct. I have to do what I can do from now on. There might have been more interesting stories. When those ones come up to my mind, I will add such additional info.
wolfx Posted September 26, 2015 Posted September 26, 2015 No model number for the valks announced yet? Going by the age of Macross I'm gonna assume Vf-32. Then it keeps the VF-40 for the eventual 40th anniversary.
Tochiro Posted September 26, 2015 Posted September 26, 2015 No model number for the valks announced yet? Going by the age of Macross I'm gonna assume Vf-32. Then it keeps the VF-40 for the eventual 40th anniversary.No, if it was I would've mentioned as such. That sort of major information will possibly be revealed during the Oct 29 stream or else closer to broadcast.
the white drew carey Posted September 26, 2015 Posted September 26, 2015 I don't know why, but for some reason I am getting a really big "VF vs. VF as a competitive sport" vibe from this image as well as the "Shoot (it) down."...
sketchley Posted September 26, 2015 Posted September 26, 2015 I don't know why, but for some reason I am getting a really big "VF vs. VF as a competitive sport" vibe from this image as well as the "Shoot (it) down." ... You're not the only one. I'm also getting a tingling feeling that Kodachi Ukyou, the writer behind "Macross the Ride" (about VF vs. VF as a competitive sport) AND "Macross 30", will be doing the major writing on this one.
Kelsain Posted September 26, 2015 Posted September 26, 2015 IF this does occur within the Frontier fleet (which I hope it doesn't), they did make it to the Vajra home world in both tv & movie versions...
terry the lone wolf Posted September 26, 2015 Posted September 26, 2015 VF-31 or VF-40? Any thoughts?
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