Mr March Posted September 4, 2014 Posted September 4, 2014 (edited) I've not seen anyone else post about this, but there is something of a mini-renaissance coming up for fans of 1990's-era anime classics. Cowboy Bebop, Ghost in the Shell and Princess Mononoke are all set to be released in North America on Blu-ray before the end of this year. The Ghost in the Shell blu-ray is quite notable since this "25th Anniversary Edition" release will be a remastered presentation of the original 1995 film, NOT the GitS 2.0 that was previously the only domestic high-definition version of the film available. Personally, I'm thrilled about these releases since my anime blu-ray collection is small and consists of mainly import discs from Japan. Details of each are below:Ghost in the ShellRelease Date: September 23, 2014Princess MononokeRelease Date: November 18, 2014Cowboy Bebop The Complete SeriesRelease Date: December 16, 2014Apparently the Cowboy Bebop set is also offered via exlusive versions for pre-order on the Amazon.com and Funimation websites. It's difficult to decide which of these releases I'm excited about most. Regardless, I'll be buying them all. Now there's still a rather large catalog of other anime I want on blu-ray (Patlabor, Spirited Away, etc) but this is a good start. It's about damned time Edited September 4, 2014 by Mr March Quote
CoreyD Posted September 4, 2014 Posted September 4, 2014 Ah, that answers what I was about to ask about GITS. Glad to hear that it's just a remastered version of the original. Quote
technoblue Posted September 4, 2014 Posted September 4, 2014 Bebop on blu locally. It's about time! The other two will be a treat for those who waited, but i already bought into the Japanese releases and paid the import price. FYI: Spirited Away is looking very nice. Quote
boinger Posted September 4, 2014 Posted September 4, 2014 I'm glad the theatrical GITS bluray will be available soon and the Cowboy Bebop TV bluray set! For the Cowboy Bebop TV series BD Set, Funimation is selling two different limited edition sets. The Amazon limited edition will be different from the Funimation website store limited edition. I'll pick up one BD set for sure, but not both. Quote
Keith Posted September 4, 2014 Posted September 4, 2014 Pretty sure GitS is juat going to be the same as the A JP remaster BD (i.e. not 2.0) that came out with subs a couple years ago. Quote
dizman Posted September 4, 2014 Posted September 4, 2014 Cowboy Bebop has 9 discs...... why? Didn't we switch to blu-ray discs since they have so much storage space? Also Patlabor is already on blu-ray Mr.March, the series, ova and movies. Quote
Keith Posted September 4, 2014 Posted September 4, 2014 (edited) Bluray DVD combo pack. Also, we havrm't gottrn the second Patlabor OVA. Edited September 4, 2014 by Keith Quote
Mr March Posted September 5, 2014 Author Posted September 5, 2014 Also Patlabor is already on blu-ray Mr.March, the series, ova and movies. I was looking for releases here in North America. I'm aware of the Patlabor movie blu-rays in Japan, but I was hoping for a domestic release. Quote
Penguin Posted September 5, 2014 Posted September 5, 2014 I've got 'em all preordered already. I got the Japanese release of Mononoke (love the Japanese disc covers), but I always support the Ghibli domestic releases. Spirited Away is also out on Blu-Ray in Japan, so it shouldn't be too long before we see it domestically too. Can't wait for the original GitS release. Not a fan of 2.0 at all. The Patlabor 1st OVA and TV series are domestic releases. Like Keith wrote, still waitin' on the second OVA. Been a while since the last TV series volume was released and still no announcement. Hope that doesn't forebode anything ominous. Love the Japanese movies releases. Completely worth it. Quote
Guest davidwhangchoi Posted September 5, 2014 Posted September 5, 2014 bebop blu ray is the remix revisions with the butchered audio and high filter, not the originals... Quote
Mr March Posted September 5, 2014 Author Posted September 5, 2014 bebop blu ray is the remix revisions with the butchered audio and high filter, not the originals... Can you elaborate? I'm not familiar with this story. Quote
Guest davidwhangchoi Posted September 5, 2014 Posted September 5, 2014 Can you elaborate? I'm not familiar with this story. Hi Mr. March, this link is very helpful comparing the originals to the remixed version. (sorta like the rt remasters vs. the original broadcast) but not as drastic. https://www.reddit.com/r/cowboybebop/comments/29jk10/read_me_cowboy_bebops_complete_original_release/ Quote
Chewie Posted September 5, 2014 Posted September 5, 2014 Didn't we switch to blu-ray discs since they have so much storage space? Tell that to the LOTR Collector's Edition. Quote
Mr March Posted September 5, 2014 Author Posted September 5, 2014 So all the HD versions of the series (Japanese and this new Funimation release) feature the remix audio. Well, that doesn't leave much choice if one wants the HD release. I already own the first DVD release of the original series + movie on DVD, so I'll always have them. Think I'll still be buying this. Perhaps some fans might attach the old audio tracks to the new HD footage some day Quote
xrentonx Posted September 5, 2014 Posted September 5, 2014 (edited) I've had that Bebop preordered for a couple weeks now. Had the original box set on DVD for ages so I'm not too bothered about the audio (yet). I'll have to look into it more though. Edited September 5, 2014 by xrentonx Quote
Guest davidwhangchoi Posted September 5, 2014 Posted September 5, 2014 (edited) the remix video has like a brightening filter and washed out colors if you care for that sorta thing. (i think if anyone cares about details like 1080p, the reason for getting it on bluray, then this might be something that might be worth looking into before purchasing) i know ppl hate lucas for what he did. not sure if anyone cares about video quality, etc.) Edited September 5, 2014 by davidwhangchoi Quote
xrentonx Posted September 5, 2014 Posted September 5, 2014 (edited) Hmm...yeah, I'm gonna have to do some research. I've been out of the loop on Cowboy Bebop releases for years... Edit: I care about cut content and video quality more than the remixed audio. Looks like I got some reading to do on Reddit (damn, I hate Reddit ) Edited September 5, 2014 by xrentonx Quote
xrentonx Posted September 5, 2014 Posted September 5, 2014 (edited) Oy...now I've got my finger on the cancel button... Anyone know if the Japanese box set released fairly recently is unfuc*ked with? I'll deal with no-subs if this is the case. I can work around that. Edited September 5, 2014 by xrentonx Quote
Keith Posted September 5, 2014 Posted September 5, 2014 I'm curious if those bebop audio changes are dub only, if so, WGaF! Quote
JB0 Posted September 5, 2014 Posted September 5, 2014 Cowboy Bebop has 9 discs...... why? Didn't we switch to blu-ray discs since they have so much storage space?Well, yes. But we needed that storage space for things. 6x the pixels + lossless audio, specifically. Just like it was a bad idea to cram eight hours of video onto a DVD(though it could be done), it's a bad idea to cram eight hours of HD video onto a BluRay disk. Quote
technoblue Posted September 5, 2014 Posted September 5, 2014 Wait. The remix and Japanese blu have been out for how long and reddit is only starting to complain about it this year? Bad reddit. The screenshots from the Japanese release on AVS look nice: http://www.avsforum.com/forum/150-blu-ray-software/1445873-cowboy-bebop-complete-series-blu-ray-collection-japan.html My original DVDs will be a good archive for the original dub. But I have no reason to think that the blu-ray will be 5.1 only. The Japanese release also had the old 2.1 Japanese language track. I'm with Keith, this seems to be a dub-only issue. Are there any other links with more information? Quote
Hoptimus Posted September 5, 2014 Posted September 5, 2014 Yeah I will be getting GITS and Bebop. I have the DVD release of Ver1 Bebop so I am ok with the changes as I always have my OG. Quote
Mr March Posted September 5, 2014 Author Posted September 5, 2014 (edited) Been investigating some more. I can fully understand the criticism against the edits now and I don't like the idea. It's Watanabe who has done the changes, but that doesn't make it right. On the flip side, almost every review I've read has praised the quality of the audio over the old stereo presentation. So at least the quality is there. I'm going to order. I'll have to see this for myself to make a determination. I don't have any doubt that I'll be put off by some of the edits. Bebop - like Macross - is one of the signature anime series of my life; it's a show I've watched an unhealthy number of times, so I know it inside and out. Some of the edits might irk me, but I'm not yet convinced these changes will put me off to the same degree as others have complained. Also, I am not getting a "Ghost in the Shell 2.0" vibe here for this Bebop blu-ray set. The GitS 2.0 was a pervasive extreme edit to sound, picture, color and VFX that made the film something I could not stomach. This doesn't sound like the case here for Bebop. But again, I have to see it myself. Nonetheless, thanks for the heads up. Reading into this has been very enlightening and frustrating. But I'd rather know than be uninformed. Edited September 5, 2014 by Mr March Quote
technoblue Posted September 5, 2014 Posted September 5, 2014 I agree. The reddit thread seems to be picking more nits than raising an alarm. I think if it were something serious, then more sites would be drawing attention to the changes. The AVSForum that I linked above is well known for having audio and video purists. They even have a gold list that rates every blu-ray release available in North America. Perhaps this is less GitS 2.0 and more Lain. There are changes going to blu-ray, but the good outweighs the bad. I'm keeping a positive point of view. Quote
Keith Posted September 6, 2014 Posted September 6, 2014 (edited) Also have to wonder if the brightness issue is not accounting for ghe different brightness levels on Japanese releases. Edited September 6, 2014 by Keith Quote
treatment Posted September 12, 2014 Posted September 12, 2014 so...Cowboy Bebop BD preorder at rightstuf for $35.99complete tv series.12/16/14official US release from funi.you're welcome. and just because... Quote
boinger Posted September 12, 2014 Posted September 12, 2014 The Cowboy Bebop pre-order on rightstuf does not list the BDs as the limited edition? Quote
CoreyD Posted September 12, 2014 Posted September 12, 2014 I'd actually prefer to have the regular edition at half the price of the limited version. I only want the episodes in high-def. I don't need the extras. Thanks for the heads up, Treatment. Quote
technoblue Posted September 12, 2014 Posted September 12, 2014 Yes. It is the regular edition. Regular Edition MSRP: $59.98 Funimation Shop Edition MSRP: $89.98 Amazon.com Limited Edition MSRP: $99.98 Quote
Marzan Posted September 15, 2014 Posted September 15, 2014 (edited) Anyone found out the difference between the Funimation and Amazon editions? Is it just the cover art? Edit: Never mind, just found it Funimation: Complete TV series on Blu-ray and DVD (combo pack) Exclusive Limited Edition tri-fold packaging in the style of a vintage record cover Display easel for packaging Four exclusive art cards One additional exclusive art card with foil-stamp autograph from series director Shinichiro Watanabe Amazon: Complete TV series on Blu-ray and DVD (combo pack) Exclusive Limited Edition clamshell art box 140 page black and white art book featuring concept sketches and designs that highlight Cowboy Bebop‘s origins 48 page vibrant, full-color art book Funimation's is 80 bucks to Amazon's 90. But Funi's is on sale if you preoder for 65. Edited September 15, 2014 by Marzan Quote
Mr March Posted September 15, 2014 Author Posted September 15, 2014 I'm going for the Amazon one. I typically dislike cards, autographed pictures and displays. They always end up in a box collecting dust. For obvious reasons, I very much enjoy art books Quote
JetJockey Posted September 20, 2014 Posted September 20, 2014 They need to re-release GitS Innocence on Blu-ray. I believe that goes for a lot now. Quote
Keith Posted September 20, 2014 Posted September 20, 2014 Pretty sure this is the subbed version. http://www.amazon.co.jp/イノセンス-アブソリュート・エディション-Blu-ray-大塚明夫/dp/B0018BL6SU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1411200107&sr=8-1&keywords=ghost+in+the+shell+innocence Quote
Hoptimus Posted September 30, 2014 Posted September 30, 2014 Got my US GITS 25th Anniversary BD. Gonna watch it this weekend. They need to re-release GitS Innocence on Blu-ray. I believe that goes for a lot now. The UK Release of that is REGION FREE and under $20 USD on Amazon.co.uk That is what I picked up. Quote
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