areaseven Posted August 26, 2014 Posted August 26, 2014 Brad Pitt is out to kill Nazis again - this time, with a tank. Directed by David Ayer (End of Watch, Sabotage) Fury has a Sherman Tank and its five-man crew plowing through enemy lines during the European Theater of World War II. Fury @ IMDb Quote
renegadeleader1 Posted August 26, 2014 Posted August 26, 2014 Like I said in the tank thread the fact that Shia Lebouf is in this and is playing the stereotypical whiny pacifist coward type has me worried. Good news is they dragged both the last working Tiger and a Sherman "Easy 8" out of Bovington to shoot the tank battle scenes. Quote
Einherjar Posted August 26, 2014 Posted August 26, 2014 Wouldn't it be cool if this was a World of Tanks or War Thunder Tanks movie instead? Quote
renegadeleader1 Posted August 26, 2014 Posted August 26, 2014 Wouldn't it be cool if this was a World of Tanks or War Thunder Tanks movie instead? Girls Und Panzer LIVE ACTION!!! Quote
electric indigo Posted August 26, 2014 Posted August 26, 2014 Best tank film (you don't see much of the tank, though): Quote
Knight26 Posted August 26, 2014 Posted August 26, 2014 Let's hope that Shia LeDouche's character is not that major of one, the less lines we hear from him, the better. Of course my oldest tells me the other day that he thinks LeDouche is a good actor and missed him in the latest T-Fromers movie. I was left unable to react by that... Quote
Phyrox Posted August 26, 2014 Posted August 26, 2014 Let's hope that Shia LeDouche's character is not that major of one, the less lines we hear from him, the better. Of course my oldest tells me the other day that he thinks LeDouche is a good actor and missed him in the latest T-Fromers movie. I was left unable to react by that... I agree with your kid. I don't know anything about the guy, except that he seems to have a bad reputation, but I don't care one whit about what he is like in real life. Everything I've seen him in, he's been pretty decent. Douche or not, he's at least as good as most young actors I've seen. As for the movie, the production details seem promising, but bad writing and stupid plot have ruined solid projects before. I'm actually looking forward to this. (please please please no fireball explosions!) Quote
Knight26 Posted August 26, 2014 Posted August 26, 2014 I agree with your kid. I don't know anything about the guy, except that he seems to have a bad reputation, but I don't care one whit about what he is like in real life. Everything I've seen him in, he's been pretty decent. Douche or not, he's at least as good as most young actors I've seen. As for the movie, the production details seem promising, but bad writing and stupid plot have ruined solid projects before. I'm actually looking forward to this. (please please please no fireball explosions!) I've never cared for his acting "skills." Too much screaming like a little girl, screaming no, no, no all the time or derp facing his way through things. Plus I think most of the movies he's been the star, or at least costar in have been garbage, at least the ones I've seen, the T-Formers movies, Indy-4... Quote
Dynaman Posted September 9, 2014 Posted September 9, 2014 No. I'll still go see it (tanks, WWII...) but that trailer makes me wary. Pathetic love interest, please... Busted Sherman holding a crossroads, not a chance. Quote
TangledThorns Posted September 9, 2014 Posted September 9, 2014 My favorite tank movie is still The Beast. Quote
reddsun1 Posted September 9, 2014 Posted September 9, 2014 My favorite tank movie is still The Beast. I remember that one. That was a good movie. Quote
Kanedas Bike Posted September 9, 2014 Posted September 9, 2014 The strength of the acting and production pedigree alone has me interested. -b. Quote
reddsun1 Posted September 9, 2014 Posted September 9, 2014 (edited) I wonder if this movie will touch on the horrific and seemingly desperate conditions faced by the American (& the Canadians, & the Brits, in their "Tommycookers") tankers during the latter part of the war--and not give a bunch of rose-tinted Hollywood imbellishment. They had the rude awakening of going from the class of the field in North Africa to being severely outclassed on the continent, against the likes of Tigers, Panthers and other bigger, newer German tanks... when you hear veterans recall their experiences, recounting in some instances how they had to "spray out the interiors of hurriedly repaired Shermans with a hose, then repaint them to get them back into action." What those lads had to face... *shudders* Edited September 9, 2014 by reddsun1 Quote
F-ZeroOne Posted September 9, 2014 Posted September 9, 2014 I once met a veteran in the Bovington Tank Museum, who talked a little about facing a Tiger tank. His comment was something like "If you saw one of those coming, you made sure your shoelaces were tied!". Quote
electric indigo Posted September 9, 2014 Posted September 9, 2014 It's my impression that a tank is a very bad place to be in in a conflict. You're basically a big, relatively slow moving target, and there's all kind of high- to low-tech stuff out there to kill you. Quote
renegadeleader1 Posted September 10, 2014 Posted September 10, 2014 My favorite tank movie is still The Beast. As I type this the movie just came on the air where I live. Quote
myk Posted September 10, 2014 Posted September 10, 2014 It's my impression that a tank is a very bad place to be in in a conflict. You're basically a big, relatively slow moving target, and there's all kind of high- to low-tech stuff out there to kill you. It's the claustrophobia inducing operating environment I have a problem with... Quote
TangledThorns Posted September 10, 2014 Posted September 10, 2014 It's the claustrophobia inducing operating environment I have a problem with... That's what makes it work on film. Same goes for submarine films like Das Boot and Hunt for Red October, I love those movies! Quote
electric indigo Posted September 10, 2014 Posted September 10, 2014 In the movie "Lebanon" (see above), the camera doesn't leave the tank for the whole movie - except for one crucial moment. Quote
renegadeleader1 Posted October 8, 2014 Posted October 8, 2014 That clip reminds me of this episode from History's greatest clashes with the re-enactment at the end of it. Ironically they both feature the same Tiger I from the Bovington museum. A couple of of the Sherman's might be too. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bj0AzL95Weg Quote
Phyrox Posted October 8, 2014 Posted October 8, 2014 That clip reminds me of this episode from History's greatest clashes with the re-enactment at the end of it. Ironically they both feature the same Tiger I from the Bovington museum. A couple of of the Sherman's might be too. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bj0AzL95Weg Eh, that's not only not the same Tiger...that's not a Tiger at all. Quote
Dynaman Posted October 8, 2014 Posted October 8, 2014 Eh, that's not only not the same Tiger...that's not a Tiger at all. That most certainly IS a Tiger, or at least a reasonable mockup. Quote
Phyrox Posted October 8, 2014 Posted October 8, 2014 (edited) Reasonable mockup of something is in no way the same thing being that thing. A Pontiac Fiero with a cheap Ferrari fiberglass body is not a Ferrari, and that is not a Tiger. It looks like a T-34 or derivative with some "work done." And as such, it isn't the Bovington Tiger. It's not bad, but the forward hull geometry, running gear, and forward-mounted idler are pretty obvious givaways. Edited October 8, 2014 by Phyrox Quote
Dynaman Posted October 9, 2014 Posted October 9, 2014 From your post claiming it was not a Tiger I was thinking it was the normal bit of showing footage from 41 and talking about the battle of the Bulge. Are you a wargamer by chance? (I am) they can be just as nitpicky. Quote
TehPW Posted October 9, 2014 Posted October 9, 2014 *eats popcorn* Love it when War nerds go to Gwar over details most of us have no clue about... it's how WE learn about that sh*t... Quote
Dynaman Posted October 9, 2014 Posted October 9, 2014 *eats popcorn* Love it when War nerds go to Gwar over details most of us have no clue about... it's how WE learn about that sh*t... I have fun with it. I put any old model Sherman out on the game table and some gamers go bonkers. You don't even want to start a conversation with the Napoleonics nuts... Quote
Phyrox Posted October 9, 2014 Posted October 9, 2014 From your post claiming it was not a Tiger I was thinking it was the normal bit of showing footage from 41 and talking about the battle of the Bulge. Are you a wargamer by chance? (I am) they can be just as nitpicky. Nope, I'm a modeller which gives me a keen eye, and I've spent the better part of my life studying military and aviation technology. Was one orals away from making it my profession in fact. Still a lot of holes though...which is what keeps it interesting. I used to go to a gaming convention with some war-gamers, and I learned how their attention to minor details, although sometimes derided by more academic minds, can give insight that higher-level analysis often misses. I have a great deal of respect for the knowledge of war-gamers. Quote
renegadeleader1 Posted October 9, 2014 Posted October 9, 2014 DAMMIT! I should have paid more attention to the suspension right? Quote
Nekko Basara Posted October 9, 2014 Posted October 9, 2014 (edited) A good trick for telling mock-up tanks from the real deal is to look at the running gear. Every family of tanks tends to differ in how many road wheels they have, how they are arranged, how big they are, whether the drive sprocket is at the front or the back, whether there are return rollers and how many, etc. When people modify one tracked vehicle to look like another, they generally can't change that. The result is like having someone in Nikes at a civil war reenactment. So, that's a dead giveaway that the tank in the video isn't a Tiger. The real thing would have interleaved road wheels and a big drive sprocket at the front, and no uneven gaps between the road wheels like you see between the first and second set. Edit: Renegadeleader, sorry, I was typing as you posted. Hope this didn't come off like an overly long answer to a short question. Of course, another clue is that there's only one running Tiger I in the world, and that ain't it ;-) Edited October 9, 2014 by Nekko Basara Quote
Einherjar Posted October 11, 2014 Posted October 11, 2014 Girls Und Panzer LIVE ACTION!!! http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2014-10-09/girls-and-panzer-kancolle-strike-witches-promote-brad-pitt-fury-film/.79738 Good enough. Quote
F-ZeroOne Posted October 11, 2014 Posted October 11, 2014 A number of "Tigers" have been made for movie use; IIRC, the most famous ones are the Tigers from "Kellys Heroes", which were built on T-34 chassis. As has been pointed out above, the lack of non-interleaved road-wheels is the biggest giveaway thats not an authentic Tiger. Quote
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