firefly Posted June 27, 2014 Posted June 27, 2014 Hi all I would to know please if someone could add pics for both YF 21 and YF 19 Arcadia side by side? Quote
no3Ljm Posted June 27, 2014 Posted June 27, 2014 You're in luck for your request. I was playing with my Valks last night with my 5 year old son. He enjoys playing with my VF-1A Hikaru to the point he already made the pelvic joint loose on the swing bar. Hahaha! And got the urge on transforming both YF-19 (Arcadia) and YF-21 (Yamato) to compare their height. So here you go. In Fighter mode. (That's my son's elbow btw. ) Original YF-21 height (by pulling and locking the bottom part of the leg). I don't like this height since he towers too much over the YF-19. Using YF-21 slight leg extension for Gerwalk mode. This height I prefer over the first one. Assuming Arcadia will do a renewal in the future. Hope they do something like this scale. Just a little bit taller. To still keep the impression that YF-21 is mean-looking than YF-19. Lastly, not extending the legs. Almost the same height with Arcadia YF-19. I guess in my opinion on the height, it's kinda look ok assuming that YF-21 legs and feet are thicker. Anyways, hope this photo helps even the quality is not good. I'm using iPhone. 14038405337_8f5c9b1ca7_o.jpg 14201845376_0db2a8c916_o.jpg Yup, this is the height I prefer for YF-21 over YF-19. Just extended using the Gerwalk mode legs. Quote
YF-29 Durandal Posted June 27, 2014 Posted June 27, 2014 I never liked the wings on thighs design... I hope that it never comes back. Quote
Ignacio Ocamica Posted June 27, 2014 Posted June 27, 2014 Looking at your pics, you can still extended the feet of the YF-19 one or two more clicks. This way you'll be able to fully extend the legs of the YF-21 and acheive the height difference of the second pic. Quote
no3Ljm Posted June 27, 2014 Posted June 27, 2014 (edited) True. The one click ankle for YF-19 for Battroid mode is the proper way (as per manual) which I didn't do it here since the ankle on my YF-19 is quite loose. However, I did try doing that and it still didn't help. The YF-21 (on his proper Battroid leg extended) looks really big over Arcadia's YF-19. Remember that the Arcadia version is now shorter in height compared to the original Yamato release by about 2cm. This is by following the revisions done in VF-19Kai. By extending 2 clicks on the ankle joint, which is for Gerwalk mode use, the YF-19 will look awkward in Battroid mode besides the YF-21. You can still check Reivaj post before my comparison post. The YF-19 there uses the proper extended ankle. But do note that the YF-21 on that picture is not using the proper extended leg. My conclusion is, YF-21 is a taller than both versions of YF-19. But this time, it really did make him more taller since Arcadia's YF-19 is now shorter than it's Yamato's counterpart. Based on anymoon's site, Yamato YF-19 stands 25.25cm; Yamato VF-19Kai stands 23.5cm (almost the same with Arcadia's release); Yamato YF-21 stands roughly at 26.5cm. From anymoon: http://anymoon.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/Yamato-VF-19Kai-11.jpg http://anymoon.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/160-Yamato-YF-21-5.jpg Edited June 27, 2014 by no3ljm Quote
Ignacio Ocamica Posted June 28, 2014 Posted June 28, 2014 My conclusion is, YF-21 is a taller than both versions of YF-19. But this time, it really did make him more taller since Arcadia's YF-19 is now shorter than it's Yamato's counterpart. I agree And I like the YF-21 being taller than the YF-19 becauese it's a meaner machine! Quote
Silverstreak Posted June 28, 2014 Posted June 28, 2014 I never liked the wings on thighs design... I hope that it never comes back. best part of the valk Quote
spanner Posted June 28, 2014 Posted June 28, 2014 dang the YF-21 is a big bird! Gonna have to get me one of these eventually.. Quote
firefly Posted June 28, 2014 Author Posted June 28, 2014 Thanks guy's for you pics, waoooouu it's really bigger the YF 21, do you thinking Arcadia project to make a new one YF 21? Quote
Reïvaj Posted June 28, 2014 Posted June 28, 2014 Thanks guy's for you pics, waoooouu it's really bigger the YF 21, do you thinking Arcadia project to make a new one YF 21? I hope so. Quote
lechuck Posted June 28, 2014 Posted June 28, 2014 They need to. It's another one of Yamato's "figher over everything else" designs. Battroid and Gerwalk are just a complete insult to fans of these modes. Quote
YF-29 Durandal Posted June 28, 2014 Posted June 28, 2014 (edited) They need to. It's another one of Yamato's "figher over everything else" designs. Battroid and Gerwalk are just a complete insult to fans of these modes. It's not THAT bad. YF-19 battroid mode looks good... YF-21 battroid mode could look better though. Edited June 28, 2014 by YF-29 Durandal Quote
Reïvaj Posted June 28, 2014 Posted June 28, 2014 I also think it could be better, but I like it anyway. And such a beautiful fighter mode!!! Quote
Loop Posted June 28, 2014 Posted June 28, 2014 I also prefer my YF-21/VF-22's in fighter mode. If Arcadia revisits the 21/22 series I would like to see bigger legs. Quote
VF-18S Hornet Posted June 29, 2014 Posted June 29, 2014 (edited) You're in luck for your request. I was playing with my Valks last night with my 5 year old son. He enjoys playing with my VF-1A Hikaru to the point he already made the pelvic joint loose on the swing bar. Hahaha! And got the urge on transforming both YF-19 (Arcadia) and YF-21 (Yamato) to compare their height. So here you go. In Fighter mode. (That's my son's elbow btw. ) Original YF-21 height (by pulling and locking the bottom part of the leg). I don't like this height since he towers too much over the YF-19. Using YF-21 slight leg extension for Gerwalk mode. This height I prefer over the first one. Assuming Arcadia will do a renewal in the future. Hope they do something like this scale. Just a little bit taller. To still keep the impression that YF-21 is mean-looking than YF-19. Lastly, not extending the legs. Almost the same height with Arcadia YF-19. I guess in my opinion on the height, it's kinda look ok assuming that YF-21 legs and feet are thicker. Anyways, hope this photo helps even the quality is not good. I'm using iPhone. Yup, this is the height I prefer for YF-21 over YF-19. Just extended using the Gerwalk mode legs. What's with the YF-21 right leg, why is it taped? Plus I am so jeolous that the nose on your 19 locks into the cockpit section. Edited June 29, 2014 by VF-18S Hornet Quote
no3Ljm Posted June 29, 2014 Posted June 29, 2014 I never liked the wings on thighs design... I hope that it never comes back. best part of the valk Yeah, me too. It's kinda nice to see different Valks in toy form that has the wings on the sides instead of the traditional backpack wings. That makes the YF-21 unique since it has both wing backpacks, and side panels huge like wings. But down part is, it limits the movement of the figure since the side panel bumps always on the main thrusters backpack. I agree And I like the YF-21 being taller than the YF-19 becauese it's a meaner machine! I did try again this afternoon to check the YF-19 and YF-21 in their proper ankle joint extended and somehow it really looks better than the one I posted earlier (comparison photo #2). So, true, that YF-21 looks meanier when he's taller than YF-19. I'll try to post new photo next time. Thanks guy's for you pics, waoooouu it's really bigger the YF 21, do you thinking Arcadia project to make a new one YF 21? You're welcome. Hope the photos helped you. Are you trying to purchase each of this valks? And YES, I do wish Arcadia will touch this blue bird once again. Since I already messed up one of the thigh by transforming it. So now my YF-21 is fixed in fighter mode as of this moment. It would be cool to display one valk and one battroid mode. Another reason is, this bird is really hard to transform. They need to. It's another one of Yamato's "figher over everything else" designs. Battroid and Gerwalk are just a complete insult to fans of these modes. It's not THAT bad. YF-19 battroid mode looks good... YF-21 battroid mode could look better though. Agree. They don't look so bad. I really do love how they look except for the YF-21 legs. And I prefer this version than their 1/72 counterparts. If only they could make something a cross of the GNU-Dou YF-21 Battroid mode, which IMO the best YF-21 Battroid mode, and the Yamato 1/60 YF-21 Fighter mode, then all is right in the world. I also think it could be better, but I like it anyway. And such a beautiful fighter mode!!! Amen to that. The fighter mode was their selling point. I also prefer my YF-21/VF-22's in fighter mode. If Arcadia revisits the 21/22 series I would like to see bigger legs. Me too. GNU-Dou legs and proportion please. Heck, they can even retain the shortened nose cone design. Quote
no3Ljm Posted June 29, 2014 Posted June 29, 2014 What's with the YF-21 right leg, why is it taped? Plus I am so jeolous that the nose on your 19 locks into the cockpit section. It's not a tape, it's the original plastic wrap that came with it. Bought this second-hand on eBay without the original owner removing it. So I assumed it was never been transformed. I believe it was only displayed in fighter mode. I felt bad now since I know for a fact that it was never been transformed, it's me who gave him the cracked bruises on the thigh. You can check my post on this thread: http://www.macrossworld.com/mwf/index.php?showtopic=27704&p=1129290. And maybe you can give me any advice on how to repair it. By the way, what's wrong with your 19 not locking on the cockpit? Quote
Loop Posted June 30, 2014 Posted June 30, 2014 You know what they say about valks with long nose cones right? Quote
Lonely Soldier Boy Posted July 1, 2014 Posted July 1, 2014 The YF-21 is my favorite VF. Battroid was such a disappointment tho' that I decided to hold onto my Yamato 1/72 FP until Yamato decided to update it. It's been a long wait, but Arcadia's 19 gives me hope Quote
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