NEW MACROSS TV SERIES ANNOUNCED!

[xrentonx]

Something more serious and less music idols.

I could go either way on this but I preferred a little more serious myself. On that note, I wish Japan would just call them pop musicians or something. That word "idol" always makes me think of those stone statues in Indiana Jones. Plus I think the whole "idol" subculture (American Idol too) is lame as hell.

[jenius]

I think all adults will agree that a serious anime with less music idols would be great... but since this will be a show meant to appeal to teenagers and sell MP3s it's unlikely to matter.

[Renato]

CDs, not MP3s. This is Japan, not Silicon Valley

[Zinjo]

I have shared this with some other Macross fans, what do you guys think? I have always been curious about the Protoculture, Supervision Army and all that transpired before the Macross crashed on Earth. There is potential for such great drama in that time period where the Protoculture realized the armies they created to fight one another was spinning out of control and that little by little the great culture was falling fast into the void. I can envision protagonists on both sides either trying to save what they could or revel in the destruction that was looming. We can see the errors and faults in that ancient race and relate to how our imperfect world can achieve such greatness and yet live in such disharmony. Romance, music, mecha...yes all of that can be there. A true paradox that we can say, it happened before it will happen again. Deculture

Nah, making a series about the the PC is like Lucas turning the enigma of the Force into microscopic bugs... The PC need to remain the enigma they are.

The Macross universe if vast and underdeveloped IMHO. There are so many aspects to it and even cross genres that could be explored.

What about the UN Marines or the UN Air Force? What about the story of the Megaroad 13 mission? How about a political intrigue story? There are so many possibilities.

Unfortunately a TV series will follow the typical love triangle, music idol formula established by SDFM since that is the only series the sponsors seem willing to fund. Serious dramas only appear in OVA series or Manga.

In this age of "re-boots", I honestly wonder if they are not planning a re-animated SDFM? No need to envision and develop a new story, unless they plan to make it a two season series like M7, no new music to compose only update, From a business point of view, it is a quick way to get a Macross product to market and re-assert Big West's intellectual property and copyrights internationally. The long term goal could be to offer the property to a Hollywood studio for live action movie development after they reclaim their international trademarks.

Edited March 31, 2014 by Zinjo

[Vepariga]

I have shared this with some other Macross fans, what do you guys think? I have always been curious about the Protoculture, Supervision Army and all that transpired before the Macross crashed on Earth. There is potential for such great drama in that time period where the Protoculture realized the armies they created to fight one another was spinning out of control and that little by little the great culture was falling fast into the void. I can envision protagonists on both sides either trying to save what they could or revel in the destruction that was looming. We can see the errors and faults in that ancient race and relate to how our imperfect world can achieve such greatness and yet live in such disharmony. Romance, music, mecha...yes all of that can be there. A true paradox that we can say, it happened before it will happen again. Deculture!

Could be another Birdman there lol

It would be slightly amusing if they did do a redo of SDFM and then they can do a Megaroad OVA

but I doubt it lol, I would love to see something new,but at the same time familiar. And nothing too crazy like M7

[Hebime]

CDs, not MP3s. This is Japan, not Silicon Valley

Specifically CD Singles. Of every single song.

Then a compilation album.

Followed by a more comprehensive compilation.

[Vepariga]

it could have Idols and Metal like BabyMetal

[Gubaba]

(SHUDDER)... I hate Babymetal... give me Momoiro Clover any day...

[Scyla]

I would like a series that is based around the adventures of the retired crew of the Monster from M7. As a mid season highlight they could upgrade to a Koenig Monster and visit hot springs all on different planets. That would be awesome.

If I can't have that I would go for a AKB48 inspired show (like AKB0048). Something like idol singers and Valkyrie pilots team up Candidate for Goddess style to fight.... hm what should they fight? I know each other in a crazy race to determine who is the best singer/pilot in the known Universe. That could lead to cameos of other famous pilot/musicians like Ray and Veffidas. All this should be rendered in a cute art style and be called SMF:Macross (SMF stands for Super Moe Fortress)

What would not be so great is a series about a badass female fighter pilot that is involved into crazy dog-fights in space and on the surface of a planet with a rock soundtrack and transforming capital ships that punch each other. That would be kinda boring.

[Vepariga]

Bring Zentradi back,there is still a gazillion battlefleets out there to cause mischef

**edit soz for the double post,internet is screwing up :/

Edited March 31, 2014 by Vepariga

[Vepariga]

(SHUDDER)... I hate Babymetal... give me Momoiro Clover any day...

haha yeah, oh wait. what if they just increase the Idols to a super group and some of the girls become pilots which leads to some in fighting,threatens to break apart but in there most desperate hour they come together and show the true meaning of friendship and the power of song. have one or two of them get killed in battle so it gives some heart felt feels to the music lol.

[Gubaba]

haha yeah, oh wait. what if they just increase the Idols to a super group and some of the girls become pilots which leads to some in fighting,threatens to break apart but in there most desperate hour they come together and show the true meaning of friendship and the power of song. have one or two of them get killed in battle so it gives some heart felt feels to the music lol.

Damn... you've listened to the latest podcast, haven't you...? And Gwyn told me he hadn't finished editing it yet...

[Guest davidwhangchoi]

i digress... maybe giant robot animation are for kids/teens. i think instead we're all 80-90's kids disguised as grownups on MW.

michael bay is helping the rest of the world catch up to us.

w transformers and ninja turtles

[Vepariga]

Damn... you've listened to the latest podcast, haven't you...? And Gwyn told me he hadn't finished editing it yet...

haha, well great minds think alike so they say

[Legioss]

Okay on second thought, maybe everyone does believe the same things about Macross. Maybe you will get your Megaroad.

[Old_Nash]

I read in the Robotech forum, HG adquired the new serie...

And they are make some adaptations in the pre-production for release the same time in the USA.

[Kelsain]

Wouldn't it be weird if they pulled the same stunt as the WTF-1 in Frontier, but this time it ACTUALLY WAS the Megaroad?

Edited April 1, 2014 by Kelsain

[renegadeleader1]

Personally I'd just prefer Kawamori to go back to being just a mecha designer for Macross and let someone else direct and write for this new project. I know it won't happen though because it would be too much of hit to his prestige and ego.

The thing is most Kawamori led projects tend to get bogged down with annoying characters, repetitive plots, and a liberal spicing of new age mystical bullcrap that ends up being the deus ex machina for the entire show.

I know my opinion isn't that popular and some one will throw Mac Plus up in my face, but that is really the exception To his works. People also tend to forget the original show was a combined group effort, not one person bending the project to his will.

[Mr March]

In this age of "re-boots", I honestly wonder if they are not planning a re-animated SDFM? No need to envision and develop a new story, unless they plan to make it a two season series like M7, no new music to compose only update, From a business point of view, it is a quick way to get a Macross product to market and re-assert Big West's intellectual property and copyrights internationally. The long term goal could be to offer the property to a Hollywood studio for live action movie development after they reclaim their international trademarks.

Definitely don't agree with the Star Wars/Lucas analogy to the Protoculture (especially because good writing has no such caveats). However, I will agree that a story about the Protoculure could not be done as the Macross franchise has been handling the TV series to date. It would have to be an OVA of film so they could go with a different tone entirely.

That being said, the re-animated SDF Macross series is a great idea. As you said, an excellent way to re-establish copyright internationally and profit from their existing property in Japan. I don't see it happening with Kawamori involved because he's only interested in making new stories and has said repeatedly the story of Hikaru, Misa and Minmay is over. Sadly Big West (and it seems most anime producers) still don't care much for foreign interest in the Macross property so the motivation to earn back the international market seems irrelvant if I were to guess. Still, it's an amazing idea and a great way to reintroduce the classic to younger audiences who will only watch "new" anime. Reminds me of the Space Battleship Yamato 2199 remake, which is doing well.

[jvmacross]

However, I will agree that a story about the Protoculure could not be done as the Macross franchise has been handling the TV series to date.

The Protoculture can easily be introduced into a future storyline based on how the Macross universe in general has evolved.....especially concepts from Macross30 and Macross the First storylines....in short....introduce time travel/displacement into a franchise and anything becomes possible....

[Duke Togo]

I honestly have no idea what to expect here. The safe bet would be on the new series feeling like Frontier did, but Macross productions have varied greatly in tone over the past 30 years. Personally, I'd like to see them step back to the Megaroad era (this does not mean the 01) and that early time of exploration and colonization. I miss that design aesthetic.

[danth]

I read in the Robotech forum, HG adquired the new serie...

And they are make some adaptations in the pre-production for release the same time in the USA.

Yep, with mecha designs by Tommy Yune. It's gonna be great!

[YajimaTakashi]

I know I am slow in the mix of learning about a new Macross Series, but I am so excited. Frontier was ok for me, but I would love to see something along the lines of SDF getting a Yamato 2199 style upgrade, but that is just me

[Mr March]

Personally I'd just prefer Kawamori to go back to being just a mecha designer for Macross and let someone else direct and write for this new project. I know it won't happen though because it would be too much of hit to his prestige and ego.

The thing is most Kawamori led projects tend to get bogged down with annoying characters, repetitive plots, and a liberal spicing of new age mystical bullcrap that ends up being the deus ex machina for the entire show.

I know my opinion isn't that popular and some one will throw Mac Plus up in my face, but that is really the exception To his works. People also tend to forget the original show was a combined group effort, not one person bending the project to his will.

I don't want to speak for others, but I think most of us understand Kawamori's tendencies and his storytelling interests. I don't think more Macross is going to be done without Kawamori in the lead (not just mechanical designer), so I don't think expecting another groundbreaking, genre-bending series like SDF Macross is at all realistic. If you're looking for that, I don't think Macross is the place to find that as long as Kawamori is doing it.

What we can realistically expect of the Macross franchise at this point is something of the same quality as Macross Frontier. I enjoyed Macross Frontier but I know some didn't. But I can't imagine another "Macross Plus" scenario in the future for the franchise. I hope I'm wrong. I'd welcome new blood into the franchise, certainly helped when Shinichiro Watanabe came along

The Protoculture can easily be introduced into a future storyline based on how the Macross universe in general has evolved.....especially concepts from Macross30 and Macross the First storylines....in short....introduce time travel/displacement into a franchise and anything becomes possible....

Maybe I should've said a new Macross series handling the Protoculture can't be done as a TV series the way they've been doing TV series to date...in the way I would want a proper Protoculture story to be told. No time travel

[jvmacross]

I don't want to speak for others, but I think most of us understand Kawamori's tendencies and his storytelling interests. I don't think more Macross is going to be done without Kawamori in the lead (not just mechanical designer), so I don't think expecting another groundbreaking, genre-bending series like SDF Macross is at all realistic. If you're looking for that, I don't think Macross is the place to find that as long as Kawamori is doing it.

What we can realistically expect of the Macross franchise at this point is something of the same quality as Macross Frontier. I enjoyed Macross Frontier but I know some didn't. But I can't imagine another "Macross Plus" scenario in the future for the franchise. I hope I'm wrong. I'd welcome new blood into the franchise, certainly helped when Shinichiro Watanabe came along

Maybe I should've said a new Macross series handling the Protoculture can't be done as a TV series the way they've been doing TV series to date...in the way I would want a proper Protoculture story to be told. No time travel

Agreed..."at this point"......Just like Lucas finally let go of his "baby"...eventually the Macross torch will also be passed from Kawamori to some other person or group.......MACROSS WILL ADVANCE...afterall......BW will not let it die with Kawamori....it'd be interesting if Kawamori is actually ready to do that now.....and it does get passed to some new talent starting with a reboot as the next series.....who knows....

A purely Protoculture-centered series will probably fail on merchandising alone.....isn't the Protoculture weapons and mecha essentially what we see as the Zentradi and Meltrandi...plus the Protodeviln......yeah, I do not see anyone rushing to get those "toys"......

Think it's too late for "no time travel"...that concept is out of the closet in the Macross universe and there is a chance it will continue to be exploited I'm afraid.....perhaps Macross has finally "jumped the shark"?

[Mr March]

Ugh, too many Lucas/Star Wars analogies! Anyway, don't mean to single you out...but yeah

My venting aside, I agree with you that passing the torch would be the ideal scenario for the next Macross production. In the opinion of an older fan like myself, the new creative ideas of a new generation are needed to make Macross relevant socially, dramatically and emotionally as both a piece of entertainment and as a work of art. If they did do a Protoculture story as a series, it wouldn't be hard to get transforming fighters in there and then simply write them out with the collapse of the Protoculture. Even I could credibly write that. Besides, Kawamori wouldn't have it any other way

However, Macross as a franchise is sadly in a UNIQUE situation that "other" (chortle) franchises are not. Kawamori achieved something very rare nearly 30 years ago which was basically the creation (and subsequent continued occupancy) of his very own mechanical design niche for mecha anime. While hundreds of mechanical designers could each legitimately claim the crown of the greatest mecha designs of all time, the specific "transforming jet fighter/robot" crown was bestowed upon Kawamori and no one has come close to seizing that crown since. In fact, almost no one else has even tried with any level of accomplishment approaching Kawamori. Whatever else it may be, Macross IS the transforming jet fighter/robot. It's easy to call for Kawamori to lend only his design talents to the next Macross, but how do you involve a guy like Kawamori in Macross while keeping him out of the script/story?

I can enjoy the mecha porn, music, action and animation of something like Macross Frontier, but Frontier's offerings weren't enough to elevate that series to the level of dramatic/emotional payoff provided by SDF Macross, DYRL? and Macross Plus, which remain my favorites. Frontier came closer than the other Macross sequels since the aforementioned, but couldn't win the race. I'd kill to love a Macross sequel as much as DYRL? or Macross Plus again. But I don't have much faith that will happen. I hope I'm wrong.

Edited April 1, 2014 by Mr March

[jvmacross]

I think that is the problem...and it has been brought up several times in the past....nostalgia is a powerful aphrodisiac....that is why no new iterations of Macross will ever be "as good as the first time"....

....with that said....yes...a reboot may be the only hope for old-timers like us to "fall in love all over again with the franchise...or at least a new Macross series"......if done right and with respect to the the original source that we all know and love (Star Trek reboot comes to mind...the jury is still out on the new Star Wars)....I think Macross the First is doing a good job of mixing both the TV and DYRL elements.....the time displacement stuff is definitely "out there" but it is probably easier to swallow for most fans than most of Macross7.....

Sure, they can add transforming mecha as native craft for the Protoculture...but why would the Protoculture need them? They have bio-engineered giants and monsters to fight their battles afterall.....Nah...the Protoculture needs to remain just barely out of reach of full explanation.....explain them too much and you start "tripping" into Macross Zero.......

"How do you involve a guy like Kawamori in Macross while keeping him out of the script/story?"....Dunno ask the new Star Wars filmakers and how they are "controlling" Lucas' input on the new trilogy...sorry, had to pop in one more Star Wars reference for you!

[Sandman]

The problem is whenever Kawamori moves on (retirement, passes away etc) there will be no one to fill his shoes on designing vfs. Like Mr. March said, no one has come close to showing the talent in designing variable fighters designed from a aeronautical perspective. The one series that didn't use his designs was Macross 2. Although i myself don't mind the VF-2SS, it doesn't hold up to the "realistic" fighter designs that Kawamori does so well.

[Vifam7]

The problem is whenever Kawamori moves on (retirement, passes away etc) there will be no one to fill his shoes on designing vfs. Like Mr. March said, no one has come close to showing the talent in designing variable fighters designed from a aeronautical perspective.

But then few have ever really been given the chance to design Valkyries. Only in MacII was someone else utilized and that was over 20 years ago. Personally I would not short-change the robot mecha designers in Japan. But, if it's a concern then perhaps it would be good to nurture a cadre of new Valkyrie designers now instead of continuing to rely on Kawamori. But then the question would be whether fans would ever accept anything other than a Kawamori led Macross anime. If not, then the Macross franchise, for better or worse, would be somewhat limited in how it could grow in the future.

[jvmacross]

I think it would be difficult to ascertain whether or not someone else could or could not design great vfs...when no one else is being asked to do it....I don't think it is fair to say only Kawamori alone has that ability based on one show from the 90's...I think a lot of fans like those vf designs anyway...if not the show....again how can we know good vf designs can't be done by new designers if not given the opportunity....eventually it's going to need to happen for Macross to continue...

[Mr March]

jvmacross don't misunderstand me, I'm not advocating the nostalgia viewer or their demands. In fact, my position is that a change of generation is what's needed to make Macross relevant (at least for me personally). I don't want a new Macross series to beat my nostalgia and it doesn't have to; all it needs is to be good on it's own merits and I'm in love. The first new Star Trek (2009) film is a perfect example; it didn't beat 20+ years of nostalgic love for a franchise of my youth and it didn't have to; it just had to be good on it's own merits and it was great! To my mind, Macross Plus WAS that example for the Macross franchise; it went in a completely different direction, smaller scope, different tone and yet was unmistakably a brilliant Macross sequel done right. Macross Plus didn't have to beat SDF Macross or my nostalgia cause it was just great Macross. That's all I need.

Regarding Sandman and Vifam7 points, I agree that not a lot of people have been given the opportunity to design Valkyrie-like mecha either in or out of the Macross franchise. But again, don't misunderstand me; I don't believe Kawamori's the only human being capable of designing an accomplished transforming fighter/robot. All I'm saying is there are more who can't than can even among the ranks of the great mecha designers. Kawamori has basically created his own micro-economy of demand in which he is simply the best supplier, so the vendors find alternatives difficult to obtain, if you follow my analogy

I just don't think Kawamori divorced Macross is likely to happen or is a thing that anyone on the production side even wants to contemplate. The Kawamori Macross installments have all been successful, especially Frontier. So there's every reason to expect Kawamori will lead once again. But new creative control would be nice

[jvmacross]

Bottom line is that most of the Macross concepts developed during and after Macross7 are what most Macross old schoolers find "wrong" with the franchise....It's not the Macross they grew up with... MacrossF had considerably less of it and thus was better received by that section of the fandom....basically it was less like M7, M0...and more like SDFM, DYRL, M+.....

[1/1 LowViz Lurker]

God I hope its a reboot. Macross is popular still, but nothing has come close to the original, or DYRL, which was the same story. Stick with the story, just make it breathtaking visually.

I agree. The original needs reboot. Much like battlestar galactica tv series. (actually explain how old tech may be useful in time of limited resources and budget cuts and how hacking and security becomes an issue with new versions of things)

But I think this time they should end the entire series with the reboot by explaining in a movie that there are proto-angelic that have been assigned to different areas of the galaxy who watch for destructive races and send guardians to wipeout the races much like a biblical "great flood". The almost-godlike entities are like robots with souls in them with no memory and music awakens them. They are only ever used as a last resort when people have failed to protect innocent societies.

This time un spacy is completely defeated (they rely too much on force and it loses legitmacy much like we saw in SDFM) and only non-warlike humans and zentradi survive by singing hymns. (put in religious theme) The warlike beings do not die but are folded to areas with other warlike races of aliens to keep peaceful races safe from the power-mad ones.

To me the united nations needs to be shown as nothing more than an organisation of the most powerful nations deciding what they should do with the weakest nations who have no way to become independent. That's not peace. And a handful of young people must decide whether they should allow military to obtain secrets that decide the fate of everyone or to destroy the knowledge (some sort of mind control to wipe out memories or hypnotise people to pacify them) and hide it. These would be the closest thing to newtype pilots in a macross series (or jedi knight) as they only fight for whatever ideals they think matches their hearts, not defenders of a nation or a single race of people or species of alien who take orders without question.

The reason Dyson is an appealing character to me in plus is he basically tells the UNG to frakk off and prove we as humans can make our own destiny we don't need 'leaders' or experts to control us. You just need to have faith in the human abilty to overcome challenges with innovation and determination. You can't have innovations without being free and independent and taking risk. So there should be a clash of different ideas in the new series imo (the older guys who just want to be complacent and let machines take over society like the transhumanists vs the spiritual evolved types who believe the human spirit is superior.

So the whole religious theme would be faith in future generations to guide the destiny of survivors. The varying cultures all have their own versions of music that awakens the angelic entities and these use only defensive weaponry. (like basara only using speaker pods and pin point barrier to block and dodge attack from hostile aliens)

It is the collective belief in a better way that saves life not using weapons to kill the other guy that should be the solution of preventing extinction. Does that mean we won't see cool dogfights? No. Remember Max and Milia still kicked arse in their VF-1 merely aiming at certain areas of the zentradi regult to disable them without killing pilots. So I think you can still have action and fit a hippy theme in there without pissing off either group. Especially now that they have finally added miniturised beam weapons with long range to hit specific parts of a target and not just "pray and spray" gatling guns which spray shots everywhere.

As more and more cultures clash (the warlike ones fighting amongst each other and enslaving non-warlike ones) there needs to be some kind of group outside of UN Government to represent people of all different species that are not tied to the government of earth but by brotherhood/sisterhood. Like a religion of peace. So you'd have these guys with their own pilots who much like basara work on their own and only disable the weapons and imprison the bad guy without killing people. I guess to add more mystery to the story they could have spies from other nation infiltrating the organisations and brainwashing them (think Guld but instead of going nuts from his own alien genes they program the spy to go nuts to sabotage the peaceful organisation to make them look bad in the public eyes etc)

You could have rogue zentradi forming their own mercenary groups and work for the bad guys in each series. This would add some interesting mixtures of human and zentradi tech together for the toys. For instance you might have beam weapons made by the zentradi, but human made valks and instead of say one big strike cannon thing you have variants of that same weapon. One for power (zentradi fight close range) and the other which has better accuracy. (human version) There could be more tha one gunpod type. A close range one (think of the gunpod size on the yamato 1/60 yf-19) which is smaller and used mostly in robot mode with the ability to hold more than one magazine, and specialised gunpod for long range mostly in fighter modes. And the small one is hidden inside the leg (like the vf-17). Dude they already have knives with pinpoint barrier on the tips (macross's answer to the beamsaber) so I think having two gunpod (of different damage type) is not asking much.

...

and yeah... I agree totally they need to find a way to bring us a series very similar to macross that is not macross so they can get past the HG Robotech legal crap. lol This way a guy can buy english region DVD/BluRay or buy toys from yamato USA/Arcadia USA instead of grey importing. I'm pretty sure all those old robotech fans would convert to being that series new fan so you would have more global exposure than what macross is getting. (much closer to gundam) This means macross can go beyond the core audience too. So you might have characters that are universally appealing not just appealing to people from one country.

Edited April 2, 2014 by 1/1 LowViz Lurker

[1/1 LowViz Lurker]

If they get Minmay in it at all, I think it would rock to get in a *significantly older* Minmay. With the original voice actress, of course.

A young Minmay with present-day Mari Iijima won't sound right (the 2006 dub has that problem, I think - the girl on screen is 15, the voice, while beautiful, is decidedly middle-age). And a Minmay without Mari is not Minmay in my opinion - at best she's the Minmay character as played in an inworld movie by someone like Ranka Lee. But an older Minmay with Mari's voice would rock, in my view. (I imagine her when listening to some of Mari Iijima's more recent work).

Isn't there technology these days to make a person's voice sound more high pitched? They used that for the kid john conner actor in terminator 2. His voice broke (making him sound less kiddy) and went more deep, so they altered it to make him sound normal again.

[1/1 LowViz Lurker]

Personally I'd just prefer Kawamori to go back to being just a mecha designer for Macross and let someone else direct and write for this new project. I know it won't happen though because it would be too much of hit to his prestige and ego.

The thing is most Kawamori led projects tend to get bogged down with annoying characters, repetitive plots, and a liberal spicing of new age mystical bullcrap that ends up being the deus ex machina for the entire show.

I know my opinion isn't that popular and some one will throw Mac Plus up in my face, but that is really the exception To his works. People also tend to forget the original show was a combined group effort, not one person bending the project to his will.

Well my solution to that is it goes like gundam and we get the alternate universe thing where the current universe or timeline is the "universal century" for macross and they branch out into seperate universes headed by different groups non-related to the original creators of macross. But the main theme of killing giants with high alien tech to defend earth against extinction (by undoing lost memory with music and bringing culture back to destructive aliens) remains the same.

In videogame series like The Legend of Zelda it is always the same basic idea set in different universes for example. There is always a middle-earth like story with an elf, and a series of dungeons wuth magic items needed to stop a bad guy who is usually too powerful to stop without gathering up all the little items, special tools, heart containers, magic powers etc before you can match him and undo the effects of evil.

But it's not the same game. Each one is different.

Although people say they hate macross II. There are still some toy collectors who wish they could get a VF-2SS toy. If gundam fans can get their models of their fave mecha from various universes, why not macross fans? It's time to shake things up imo. Macross Plus imo was one of the best out of all the macross shows. It basically told a story about competiion and had giants robots and planes and that was it. It didn't need the cheesy teenager against that you see in all the other shows. Older watchers of robot shows can't identify with that.

If alternate universe could give us more variety (plus stood out because it was different and music was used as mind control and hypnotism) then I would be for it. It would not mean the destruction of Kawamori macross with the floating rocks and other stuff. Older fans of macross don't have to suffer any more than fans of universal century gundam have to suffer just because Gundam Wing with it's overpowered super robot fights was made/exists. They just continue the story in their respective universes timelines without interference. So there would be no reason for either to complain. If you liked macross II and the half naked chic they put in it over minmay then you can be happy knowing it's not hurting the original fans' shows who have very strict idea about what macross is/should be about.

I always wondered what would a macross be like if it had escaflowe type mechanical inventions with mystical powers and magic in it but the magick and the lore was explained in great detail sort of like how star wars explains 'the force'. (ie yoda = the wizard, luke being the pilot combining the wizards magic with his skill to beat the empire)

Or a post apoc universe where aliens already lost and were the victims of humans with nukes and they mech-jacked the human tech, copied it, and created their own (with improvements to the original) flying weapons to take back their land. (sort of like braveheart in space) The low tech guys used biomechanical aliens as their weapons to compensate for lack of material resources - ie breeding monsters being cheaper than mass production of machines. (think of it like the predator vs the aliens vs the colonial marines: the marine are doomed if you take away their ammo and tools, the aliens are great at night time but have no long range fighting ability, and the Predator alien is great at close and far range but virtually blind if you put mud on your body. They all have to struggle despite the high tech they have yet the low tech Xenomorph can survive without much tools or gadgets. A story where a low tech alien beats high tech aliens in macross would be cool - dragon-type machine that is combined with thruster to enhance speed and has immunity to normal weapons etc)

In a confined space with a lot of blindspots, a colonial marine is going to be easily killed by a fast moving primitive xenomorph. So battles could be decided by where the fight takes place. That kind of thing could be shown in a macross setting where homing missiles are virtually useless since there is no space for missile spam. And the whole story is a story of survival (think the first rambo movie) where a soldier must rely on skill and not the machine to get out alive to tell the story. When Hikaru ran out of ammo in SDFM and got his butt kicked by britai I thought that was an awesome scene.

Edited April 2, 2014 by 1/1 LowViz Lurker