charger69 Posted February 8, 2014 Posted February 8, 2014 Don't underestimate the power of the Ozma. ¥19.500... I bet you one dollar that that price will go down either before or straight after the release. Quote
Loop Posted February 8, 2014 Posted February 8, 2014 Yeah, I'm not going to entertain anything over 17000 Yen; it's either that or bust... either way, I win. Yes that has happened just about every time after release with NY. If you miss the first NY pre-order you are pretty much going to pay more with the latter ones. Then they figure out they have more stock and then put them on sale. That sucks though for the late round Pre-order people @ NY. Quote
Kyp Durron Posted February 8, 2014 Posted February 8, 2014 ¥19.500... I bet you one dollar that that price will go down either before or straight after the release. Or, because it's Ozma, the prices will skyrocket, especially if there's no re-release anytime soon. Look how long it's been since Ozma's VF-25 was first issued. Quote
Duymon Posted February 8, 2014 Posted February 8, 2014 (edited) After retail release all the other regular release 29's have all gone UP, not down. (The Isamu doesn't count because everyone who wanted one got one already at retail via via the web store) Even with Reissue the 30th anni 29 never got below 210-ish. Thankfully the 29's are cheap to super up (unless you're trying to super-up an Alto) When I get my Ozzie, I might try to swap the purples canopy and crystals from 30th to the ozzie. the VF-25 ozzy looked great with a purple canopy, don't see why the 29 has a blue one :0 Edited February 8, 2014 by Duymon Quote
Kyp Durron Posted February 8, 2014 Posted February 8, 2014 Yeah, if anyone's thinking that Ozma's is going to go DOWN after release, they're going to be in for a very rude awakening. I'd be willing to bet you're going to see close to current VF-4 prices on the secondary market. I'm not going to lie, I snagged one at NY while the order was up, even at 19500, if I ever feel like reselling it, I'll get my money back and then some, no question. Quote
Bahamutzyro Posted February 10, 2014 Posted February 10, 2014 it will be available. bandai has upped their production on all the latest valks. they will be available. Quote
Valk-1S Posted February 11, 2014 Posted February 11, 2014 it will be available. bandai has upped their production on all the latest valks. they will be available. Of course it will be available but at what price. NY will for sure have them on hand. Also nobody have the numbers produced by Bandai so you can't really compare on how much production have increased. The last few releases should not be compared to the YF-29 Ozma. VF-171 and VF-25A are canon fodder. YF-29 Isamu are made to order. VF-27 and RVF-25 are not Ozma or Alto. VF-25F was a reissue and did sell well, but was not as hard to get. Bandai have not reissued the VF-25S yet, and those wanting an Ozma valk might jump at the YF-29. We might be surprised by the demand. Just have to wait and see. Quote
yman1437 Posted February 11, 2014 Posted February 11, 2014 Very contrasting views about future availability here......maybe we can have a poll.. Quote
Scream Man Posted February 11, 2014 Posted February 11, 2014 I'm hoping I'll be OK to get one later. I'm not anticipating to much trouble Quote
Axelay Posted February 11, 2014 Posted February 11, 2014 I severely regret not getting in on the preorder bandwagon now. I am increasingly fearing that the price of these is going to skyrocket by the time they are available. (Which is when, exactly...?) Quote
close313 Posted February 11, 2014 Posted February 11, 2014 End of may i suppose, from NY's item page. Quote
chyll2 Posted February 11, 2014 Posted February 11, 2014 HLJ says 5/31 other retailers says late May. It seems like everyone is divided on what will happen after the release. Quote
Deadeye_281 Posted February 11, 2014 Posted February 11, 2014 I hope this will be available later on, but looking at the rampant scalping that's already going on on Evilbay for this particular Ozma I'm not so sure that's going to be the case. Bandai is a strange company, you'd think that of all the YF-29 paint schemes (and VF-25 paint schemes for that matter) the Ozma variants would be mass produced because they have proven to be highly coveted valks. How much cash do you think Bandai is losing on aftermarket sales shenanigans for their Ozma variants alone? It must be quite a bit. Meh, bloody Ozma re-release delayed, pre-ordering nonsensical, scalping BS. It shouldn't be this hard to buy a $#%^ing toy plane! LOL, I've had easier gunfights in Kandahar FFS. Rant ends. For you guys that were lucky enough to snag one of these preorders, good on ya! Quote
Kyp Durron Posted February 11, 2014 Posted February 11, 2014 Once I get my VF-25S, it's over for me, I will happily, GLADLY walk away from this bullshit that is Bandai's f'ed up marketing strategy. Maybe if push comes to shove, I'll use this YF-29 to get what I want by tempting one of you to part with your VF-25S in exchange. Either way, I'll finally be free and can finally give this to Bandai-kun : Quote
Mommar Posted February 11, 2014 Posted February 11, 2014 I'd like to say I'll be done after this one but the YF-30, I think, will wind up being a pretty rare fighter in the end. I don't think in ten years anybody will be dying to make a Valk that only appeared in a video game unless it winds up cropping up in other things since. Quote
Kyp Durron Posted February 11, 2014 Posted February 11, 2014 It will crop up, trust me. Otherwise Bandai wouldn't be doing this. Remember they had the rights to Macross Frontier, do you really think they won't have exclusive rights to the next Macross series? In other words, someone up there at Bandai knows something is coming down the pipe and that it will most likely involve this Valk. (Probably VF-30) Quote
Guest davidwhangchoi Posted February 11, 2014 Posted February 11, 2014 screw it, i just put a down payment and pre-ordered this for 16200yen w/ my contact. Even if it becomes avail again it's not so bad of a price so i won't lose out on much... (trying to convince myself) Quote
zzgundam010 Posted February 11, 2014 Posted February 11, 2014 16200yen is not a bad price. It's better than the high mark-up NY was/will be asking. Quote
Valk-1S Posted February 11, 2014 Posted February 11, 2014 The demand will be in the Japan market. If the demand is strong over there, then the price will be high. I don't think there are many people out there who must buy all and multiples. They will select and choose. So things like the VF-25F/S will sell well. The VF-25F was easier to get probably due to it being a reissue, and those in Japan who already had one, couldn't be bothered getting another. The YF-29 Ozma is not in the TV or movie, but it's Ozma, so will be interesting to see whether the demand is high for it. If you didn't get it at a good price for preorder, I would think it will be best to just wait now. NY current price, I am guessing that price will still be available upon release unless demand for it is crazy. Quote
Deadeye_281 Posted February 12, 2014 Posted February 12, 2014 It will crop up, trust me. Otherwise Bandai wouldn't be doing this. Remember they had the rights to Macross Frontier, do you really think they won't have exclusive rights to the next Macross series? In other words, someone up there at Bandai knows something is coming down the pipe and that it will most likely involve this Valk. (Probably VF-30) If you're right, I hope it gets an array of fast packs like the 25 series. Kawamori has his work cut out for him to top the Messiah FP variants IMO. Quote
Matt Random Posted February 12, 2014 Posted February 12, 2014 One reason why I love the VF-25 is that it is a system toy. 3 modes + FAST Packs + Armored Packs + possible Tornado Pack makes for tireless fun and endless display possibilities. Quote
Axelay Posted February 12, 2014 Posted February 12, 2014 screw it, i just put a down payment and pre-ordered this for 16200yen w/ my contact. Even if it becomes avail again it's not so bad of a price so i won't lose out on much... (trying to convince myself) I'd go for it at that price. If you decide to back out or if your contact has room for one more order, then I'd be down. Quote
Mommar Posted February 12, 2014 Posted February 12, 2014 One reason why I love the VF-25 is that it is a system toy. 3 modes + FAST Packs + Armored Packs + possible Tornado Pack makes for tireless fun and endless display possibilities. Unless you want to pose something in Gerwalk... then it's just a brick that is impeded everywhere. Quote
Matt Random Posted February 12, 2014 Posted February 12, 2014 Unless you want to pose something in Gerwalk... then it's just a brick that is impeded everywhere. I've never noticed that. I find that the gerwalk is one of the best, if not the best. The shoulders tend to be less restricted than a VF-1. Although I have to admit that I like doing the gerwalk with the wings swept up a bit. Quote
MacrossJunkie Posted February 12, 2014 Posted February 12, 2014 I think Mommar means with the Super and Full Armour packs on, the booster parts try to occupy the same space as the shoulders and leave no room in GERWALK mode, which is absolutely true and was frustrating to me as well. Quote
Reïvaj Posted February 12, 2014 Posted February 12, 2014 IMHO the VF-25 gerwalk mode is in no way more poseable than the VF-1. We're talking about the toys, right? Quote
Loop Posted February 15, 2014 Posted February 15, 2014 I'm pretty sure we are talking about the toys. The problem with the VF-25's Gerwalk is that the wing encase the shoulders limiting arm pose ability, so I would have to disagree that the 25 has a better Gerwalk than the VF-1. Quote
Mommar Posted February 15, 2014 Posted February 15, 2014 Naked the VF-25 in Gerwalk is super poseable, one of the best of all Macross toys. With Super Packs/Armor Gerwalk becomes useless. The shoulders are completely blocked and you can barely do anything with the arms. Quote
Loop Posted February 15, 2014 Posted February 15, 2014 Yeah I forgot to mention that. Mainly when Super and Armor parts are in the mix. Quote
Axelay Posted February 15, 2014 Posted February 15, 2014 So... any not-insane preorders still out there anywhere...? I'm afraid that I'm becoming a little panicky. Quote
Duymon Posted February 15, 2014 Posted February 15, 2014 (edited) The VF-25 gerwalk with packs on is frustrating but you can still work with it. YOu just need to manuever the shoulders a little bit so that they sink a little bit. YF-29 gerwalk, however, has no issues thank god. Edited February 15, 2014 by Duymon Quote
Knightdramon Posted February 15, 2014 Posted February 15, 2014 I've read it somewhere else as well...do you guys think that Bandai/any other company in their shoes... Is losing money from the inflated aftersales? Why? Or rather, HOW? Bandai/X company actually makes all the money they would, from such a release, when the retailers buy their product and it appears on stock. I'm pretty sure there's a cost/profit ratio for each run, and Bandai's "account" is always on + profit from these, otherwise they wouldn't produce them. The over-inflated prices are mostly artificial, you know that, right guys? The VF17D with FP has been out for more than a year. Reviews are well out now, most people know the ups and downs before handling it. It's not like there's a standard influx of people who have clicked "buy now" at 380-500 USD and the rest followed suit. I'm almost certain Bandai tries actively to NOT overflow e-tailers with these [remember how 6 years back, you could buy almost any SOC from HLJ, and at one point they all went at -50% sale?]. Quote
Tober Posted February 15, 2014 Posted February 15, 2014 Bandai Namco's profit last year was 173 billion yen, roughly one third of which is toy sales, of which roughly bugger-all is Macross. Their primary focus is on Gundam, One Piece, Idol Master, Kamen Rider and Power Rangers. There are other lines such as Saint Seiya and Tiger and Bunny that are popular but suffer shortages too. Quote
Mommar Posted February 15, 2014 Posted February 15, 2014 The VF-25 gerwalk with packs on is frustrating but you can still work with it. YOu just need to manuever the shoulders a little bit so that they sink a little bit. YF-29 gerwalk, however, has no issues thank god. Not owning the Armor Parts I forgot that they're actually more opened then the Super Parts. It's still poseable, if heavy, with the Armor. With the Supers, even with adjusting the shoulders, it's just no fun at all. Quote
Duymon Posted February 17, 2014 Posted February 17, 2014 (edited) Anyone Notice NY is back up? http://www.nippon-yasan.com/lang-en/macross/6609-macross-f-dx-chogokin-yf-29-durandal-valkyrie-ozma-lee-custom.html&force=1 They got 50 slots Edited February 17, 2014 by Duymon Quote
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