cool8or Posted October 24, 2013 Posted October 24, 2013 Hello guys. This is not my best year, and in part is because of this kit. I'm having great problems with the adherence of Laquer Paints on resin kits, mainly those that were made in Japan in the 80's and 90's. With Moscato Kits instead, I never had adherence problems, and obviously neither in plastic models, like Hasegawa. I lost entire weeks because during the masking, the tape toke off all the paint. It was a dissaster. Fortunately, you can't see any of these problems in the pictures. So please enjoy it, I didn't! Uploaded with ImageShack.com Uploaded with ImageShack.com Uploaded with ImageShack.com Uploaded with ImageShack.com Uploaded with ImageShack.com Uploaded with ImageShack.com Uploaded with ImageShack.com Quote
505thAirborne Posted October 24, 2013 Posted October 24, 2013 I love it cool8or, that VF-11 Thunder Dragons kicks serious ass, Despite the painting issues it looks flawless to me! Awesome group shot. Quote
ahiachris Posted October 24, 2013 Posted October 24, 2013 It is because of the mold release silicon agent the japanese use. Nice built. Quote
cool8or Posted October 24, 2013 Author Posted October 24, 2013 Ahiachris, do you know what can I do to avoids these problems? There are a product that could help me to enhance the laquer paint adherence? Please any comment will be welcomed. Quote
Jefuemon Posted October 24, 2013 Posted October 24, 2013 Looks a million times better than the first one of those I built! Good inspiration for the rebuild I'll eventually do. Quote
ahiachris Posted October 24, 2013 Posted October 24, 2013 We usually soak the resin parts into laquer paint thinner for around 15 minutes before doing any clean up. Afterwards, we will let them dry in the air. We bought the thinner at hardware stores. It is use for spray painting. The product number is 3054 which I believe is harmful to both the atnosphere and your body. Quote
cool8or Posted October 24, 2013 Author Posted October 24, 2013 Great info Ahiachris, I'll try it. But what do you mean with "before doing any clean up"? Are you refering that after the thinner soak, I still need to wash the pieces with detergent? Thank you again! Quote
Valkyrie addict Posted October 24, 2013 Posted October 24, 2013 Good info on the thinner tip. Wow cool8or, I understand the difficulty you went trough doing this but all I see is amazing, my best is not even half of your worst, hehehee!! Good job!!! always love to see your builds. Is the Fire Valk the vinyl one from Wave? Quote
cool8or Posted October 24, 2013 Author Posted October 24, 2013 Yes it is! I also have the VF-19 Esmerald Force and the VF-17 Diamond Force versions. Quote
Valkyrie addict Posted October 24, 2013 Posted October 24, 2013 I don't like the fire valk but you make it look awesome, the gloss finish makes it stand out very well. Please do the VF-17, I've never seen one made. Little Misa should be careful not to get stepped on. Quote
ahiachris Posted October 25, 2013 Posted October 25, 2013 Great info Ahiachris, I'll try it. But what do you mean with "before doing any clean up"? Are you refering that after the thinner soak, I still need to wash the pieces with detergent? Thank you again! Ooops, the clean up I meant is removing the sprues on the pieces and filling up the holes. There's no need to wash the pieces again after the thinner soak. Remember the thinner we choose is very volatile. Use it in a open space and wear masks. Another way of removing the mold release is to use concentrated multi-purpose cleaner. http://www.swipe.com.hk/web/eng/blue.html This kind of detergent is so strong that it will attack paint surface. Soak the kit parts in the detergent and then clean up with water. For the surface treatment I'll usually spray a thin coat of Resin Surface Primer on the parts before painting. http://www.car-model-kit.com/150-surfacers/12535-mr-resin-primer-surfacer-gunze/ Quote
cool8or Posted October 25, 2013 Author Posted October 25, 2013 (edited) Thank you Ahiachris for your advices, I'm totally clear, and don't worry that I'm very careful about safety. Valkyrie Addict, don't worry because I have the intention to build all my collection, and strangers models have most of my attention. Edited October 25, 2013 by cool8or Quote
ahiachris Posted October 25, 2013 Posted October 25, 2013 Another piece of information: If you're going to thinner bath the parts, do remember to cut out a few pieces of sprues and throw them into the bath to see if the thinner will attack the resin or not. Some manufacturers (pirate copies) will use low quality resin other than high quality resin used by Japanese manufacturers. The resin will warp very quickly. Some very thin parts will warp very quickly too. Don't soak for more than 15 minutes for good quality resin kits. For thin and low quality resin parts do use concentrated cleaner to soak for as long as you like. Then use a toothbrush to brush them in running water. Quote
Jefuemon Posted October 25, 2013 Posted October 25, 2013 Please do the VF-17, I've never seen one made. A-hem! Quote
cool8or Posted October 25, 2013 Author Posted October 25, 2013 That VF-17 looks great! What color did you use? Quote
modelglue Posted October 25, 2013 Posted October 25, 2013 A-hem! Pay attention folks, this model Jefuemon did is what got me hooked on Macross modelling and this site. Oh, and while I'm here... Great job on the VF-11! I wish I could get my hands on one. Quote
MechTech Posted October 25, 2013 Posted October 25, 2013 Great job - AGAIN cool8or!!! The finish looks great despite the issues you had. Nice job cleaning it! - MT Quote
Gabe Q Posted October 26, 2013 Posted October 26, 2013 You're my hero! I think you did a great job! Quote
Jefuemon Posted October 26, 2013 Posted October 26, 2013 That VF-17 looks great! What color did you use? Mr. Color Midnight Blue. Quote
Grayson72 Posted October 28, 2013 Posted October 28, 2013 (edited) Wow that looks like total perfection to me, nice job and thanks for sharing. Post a pic of all your macros models together in one shot would you please? Also, can you share your photography techniques? Edited October 28, 2013 by Grayson72 Quote
cool8or Posted October 30, 2013 Author Posted October 30, 2013 All my kits in only one picture? Mmmhmmm... The only way to do that is taking a picture to my shelf. Just give me a couple days. Quote
coronadlux Posted October 30, 2013 Posted October 30, 2013 Wow. I might have to find me one of them models to build. I do sympathize with you and the resin problem. My first resin model ended up through into a box to be forgotten. Hahaha Quote
modelglue Posted October 30, 2013 Posted October 30, 2013 All my kits in only one picture? Mmmhmmm... The only way to do that is taking a picture to my shelf. Just give me a couple days. Please do, I would find that inspirational at the very least. Between you and other said amazing modellers on this site it can be a driving force when guys like me see your completed kits. Quote
modelglue Posted November 9, 2013 Posted November 9, 2013 (edited) Wow! Thanks for that! What is the VF to the left of the batmobile? I love how you have a Gen II LAV thrown in there! Edited November 9, 2013 by modelglue Quote
Gabe Q Posted November 10, 2013 Posted November 10, 2013 I am thoroughly impressed. I am inspired to set up my workbench and start on my own kits. That collection is amazing! The Gnerl! The Cat's Eye! The Ghost! I'm in awe... Thank you so much for posting that. Un dÃa me gustarÃa tener una colección como ésta. Quote
SebastianP Posted November 11, 2013 Posted November 11, 2013 (edited) Wow! Thanks for that! What is the VF to the left of the batmobile? I love how you have a Gen II LAV thrown in there! That's not a VF, that's an F-203 Dragon II, the fighter Roy was flying during the Unification War. It's in Episode 33 of the original series, in a flashback to how Claudia met Roy. (I don't remember seeing that scene in the Robotech version of that episode, so it might have been cut.) What I want to know is if that was a scratchbuild, or if not - where the kit came from. (Not that I could afford a resin kit that size anyway...) Edited November 11, 2013 by SebastianP Quote
Berttt Posted November 11, 2013 Posted November 11, 2013 Impressive collection. Especially the Tanmen F203 and 72nd scale Q-Rau. I am jealous. Quote
modelglue Posted November 11, 2013 Posted November 11, 2013 Thanks for the info Sebastian! Looks like a VF-1/F-15 combination from what I can tell. Quote
MechTech Posted November 11, 2013 Posted November 11, 2013 AWESOME Macross collection! It looks like you're gonna inspire some people to get off (or on) their butts and start modeliing again! - MT Quote
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