Why does the feet of the SV-51 look so close in design to the VF-27?

[mechaninac]

The now old Yamato YF-19's could be recycled.

And rechristened the VF-191 Pelican, in honor of it's gullet.

[YF-29 Durandal]

Don't you guys feel that 25, 27, 29 are inspired from the SV-51 in general? I mean the fuselage section transforms/folds exactly the same way as SV-51's not just the 27. They just made 27 have the 3 toes and it seems more alike to the SV-51 than the rest.

Derailed thread is un-derailed. (at least for the moment)

[dizman]

If you want an in universe explanation, the events of Mac 0 were being declassified around the time of Mac F so perhaps the designers of the vf-27 looked over the old sv-51 design and modernized it.

If you want a real world explanation, the sv-51 design was cool and they reused it. They also reused the transformation of the cockpit area (how it folds together) in the VF-25, 27 and 29 I think.

[VF5SS]

http://www.collectiondx.com/node/7000?page=1316

The VF-25 also transforms a lot like one of the early concepts for the VF-19.

Just saiyan.

[YF-29 Durandal]

http://www.collectiondx.com/node/7000?page=1316

The VF-25 also transforms a lot like one of the early concepts for the VF-19.

Just saiyan.

An interesting read.

[Plasticgoose]

what david and anime52k8 said. i think it's simply due to storytelling cues/aesthetics. similarly, the lead will always have red and sempais will always have yellow.

if you want to go technical, i really don't think 3 toes are necessarily more advanced looking or that they actually confer better technical benefits. for example do planes with canards always look more advanced than those without? some would think so, but an equal number would likely think they look cludgy. and that balance of opinion is likely very different depending on other aspects of the planes in question. which leads me to my next point, other aspects of the design (engine output for one) probably impact its performance much more than the number of toes. and each design element is selected to be harmonious/or traded off with other design options such that they achieve the desired/required performance envelope, which itself varies from plane to plane depending on the role it's supposed to play. the F-22 for example does away with canards in favor of thrust vectoring, while other designs opted to go for canards (sometimes in combination with forward sweep main wings), and some do both canards and more limited thrust vectoring. all are equally valid design choices but ultimately, how they meet their respective performance envelopes depends on how these choices play off with other design aspects of the plane. if you ask me, the YF-23 looks more advanced, and in some ways it probably is, but ultimately it lost out to the more (relatively) conservative looking YF-22.

if you want to go the evolutionary route, look at ostriches and horses. there was a time when horses' ancestors had spread out toes. over time, the advantage of stability and traction from this toe configuration was phased out because having 4 limbs proved sufficient to compensate and made for more efficient sustained running. ostriches kept the toes because the stability aspect was vital for a 2-limb configuration and the traction proved more useful for making quick dashes rather than long distance running. an ostrich can easily out dash a horse, but the horse can maintain a faster sustained speed. their designs diverged but remain equally valid for their respective needs and environment.

So my understanding is that that the SV-51 was built by Su/Mig (plays of Russian manufacturers). Instead of using thrust vectoring nozzles like the VF-0A/S, Su/Mig used paddle thrust vectoring like that seen in the real world X-29 and YF-23. It just so happens when it transforms they become feet which also help the look and Russian planes always seem to appear more rugid, intimidating and bad-ass compared to US fighters. I do not think Su/Mig ever in real life created a plane with paddle vectoring although the Su-27 have multi axis trust vectoring (not all variants).

[1/1 LowViz Lurker]

The in universe designers of sv-51 probably got a job working on vf-27. The original guy that worked on the project was fired after wanting to put boobs and a penis on it after studying mylene's valk in macross 7, and watching zentradi tentacle porn and combining the two ideas.

He now creates gigantic minmay robot sex dolls that obey any command and do any sex dirty act for old zentradi who are sexually frustrated as the warrior wife is too violent during sex and refuse to provide the anal sex and be submissive.

Edited October 23, 2013 by 1/1 LowViz Lurker

[xrentonx]

This was way worse than any single word Macrossworld filters out and censors...yet very refreshing to see. Hahah