Anubis Posted December 17, 2003 Share Posted December 17, 2003 Discussing Gundam Seed's cast members in my recent thread made me think up a little question for you guys. I am not looking for this thread to become a dub/sub war. I am just curious. In your opinion what was the best done English dub you've heard? Also, what was the worst dub? Feel free to throw in honorable mentions for the two categories if you like as well. For me the absolute worst dub I have ever had the displeasure of listening to doing a spot check was the Love Hina dub. I raced for the language change on that one. Especially after hearing Kitsune. The best dub award I would give to Cowboy Bebop's dub. I did not have a single problem with it at all. Well done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areaseven Posted December 17, 2003 Share Posted December 17, 2003 Best English Dubs 1. Cowboy Bebop (both TV series and movie) 2. Macross Plus 3. The Big O 4. Heat Guy J 5. Jin-Roh: The Wolf Brigade 6. Trigun 7. Gasaraki 8. Mobile Suit Gundam: The 08th MS Team 9. AKIRA (Pioneer version) 10. Ah! My Goddess: The Movie Worst English Dubs 1. Neon Genesis Evangelion 2. AKIRA (Streamline version) 3. Gatchaman 4. Dangaioh: Hyper Combat Unit 5. Mobile Suit Gundam: Char's Counterattack 6. Bubblegum Crisis 7. Urotsukidoji III: Return of the Overfiend 8. The Vision of Escaflowne 9. Demon City Shinjuku 10. Getter Robo Armageddon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keiichi Posted December 17, 2003 Share Posted December 17, 2003 My favorite dub is from the Oh My Goddess! OAVs, the one time where I actually prefer the dub to the sub. A fun side note is that the English voice actors for the main characters ended up getting married in real life . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anubis Posted December 17, 2003 Author Share Posted December 17, 2003 (edited) Wow, went with a top ten. Cool. Guess I'll go a little deeper then, too. Best Dub award: Cowboy Bebob Also good dubs (no particular order) FLCL Trigun M+ Akira (Pioneer) Inu Yasha Escaflowne Outlaw Star Excel Saga El Hazard OVA Tenchi OVA's Oh my Goddess OVA's and Movie Worst Dub Award: Love Hina Also crappy dubs (no particular order): Ai Yori Aoshi Bubblegum Crisis (both original and 2040) Fushigi Yugi Macross II Kenshin OVA many dubs done by Manga (with the exception of M+, R.O.D., and Ninja Scroll) Edited December 17, 2003 by Anubis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NERV Posted December 17, 2003 Share Posted December 17, 2003 Worst Dub: ROBOTECH some other bad dubs, pilot candidate, dont know if the dub was bad or the show just sucked anyway... chobits el hazard best dubs: basicly what a7 said but ill have to add mahoromatic, berserk, and inuyasha GTO gets an honorable mention Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NERV Posted December 17, 2003 Share Posted December 17, 2003 whic el hazard are you refering to? i foudn the dub of the wanderers: el hazard to be awful, some of the voises were good but i kno there were 2 or 3 that completely ruined it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anubis Posted December 17, 2003 Author Share Posted December 17, 2003 whic el hazard are you refering to? i foudn the dub of the wanderers: el hazard to be awful, some of the voises were good but i kno there were 2 or 3 that completely ruined it Sorry, I'll specify it as the El Hazard OVA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angel's Fury Posted December 17, 2003 Share Posted December 17, 2003 Best dubs: Cowboy Bebop Macross Plus Ninja Scroll Inu Yasha Worst dubs: Neon Genesis Evangelion Gatchaman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob joe mac Posted December 17, 2003 Share Posted December 17, 2003 Best- Mobile Suit Gundam 0080 Worst (besides Robotech ) - Escaflowne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Stryker Posted December 17, 2003 Share Posted December 17, 2003 Worst Dub: ROBOTECHsome other bad dubs, pilot candidate, dont know if the dub was bad or the show just sucked anyway... chobits el hazard best dubs: basicly what a7 said but ill have to add mahoromatic, berserk, and inuyasha GTO gets an honorable mention I don't remember GTO ever being dubbed! Of course, I can say that the worst dub ever has to be IMHO "Battle of the Planets!" Dishonerable mention: Princess Mononoke Tenchi series (Sorry Anubis) Macross Plus. . . . need I say more. Pioneer Akira Sailor Moon Project A-ko 2 through 4 and VS battles. . . . . . Same as macross plus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panon Posted December 17, 2003 Share Posted December 17, 2003 Best? Probably Read or Die. Worst? Too many to name. 95% of anime dubs would be eligable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeus the zentran Posted December 17, 2003 Share Posted December 17, 2003 best dubbing in anime Gunfrontier Trigun Bebop of course Hellsing Macross Plus Galaxy Express 999 movie(viz version scott mcneil does a damn good harlock} Big O Utena Outlaw Star the worst dubbing Tenchi(Ryoko sounds like a nasaly Rosseanne Barr and Washu sounds too much like the cop from Fargo} Harlock Saga(the bald dumbass that does Harlock's voice doesn't get the difference betwwen swishy and romantic) Saber Marionette J Star Blazers:the bolar wars Handmaid May Angel Links Macross Do You Remeber Love (Austrailian dub.I had turn it off after 10 minutes of torture) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Druna Skass Posted December 17, 2003 Share Posted December 17, 2003 Best I've run into (I haven't seen a lot of dubs)... GTO Trigun Cowboy Beebop 08th MS Team Worst... DYRL, I've yet to run into anything eles this bad, much less worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skippy438 Posted December 17, 2003 Share Posted December 17, 2003 (edited) I'm quite surprised at the number of people who like the Trigun dub ... Vash's voice is just terrible! I also have to say that, while I tolerate the Gundam dubs, I really hate the one guy (he was Duo's voice in wing) who does ALL the background voices, it's like they just shut him in a studio and just made him talk to himself for 3 hours. But the worst dub has got to be Speed Racer! Still a totally wicked show though! Dubs I like: Macross Plus Cowboy Bebop FLCL Basically, it boils down to what I hear first is what I usually watch Edited December 17, 2003 by Skippy438 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GobotFool Posted December 17, 2003 Share Posted December 17, 2003 (edited) I am a little suprised by the number of people who like the cowboy bebop dub. Personally I can't stand the voices. But in general I hate dubs, so I am probably not the best person to ask about dubs I thought were worth while. I will say the Gasaraki Dub was decent though. Edited December 17, 2003 by GobotFool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areaseven Posted December 17, 2003 Share Posted December 17, 2003 On the subject of English dubs, who are the best and worst voices? My picks... Best English Voice Actors in an Anime 1. Steven Jay Blum (Spike in Cowboy Bebop, Roger in The Big O) 2. Steve Cannon (Daisuke in Heat Guy J, Shiro in Mobile Suit Gundam: The 08th MS Team) 3. John Billingslea (Jet Black in Cowboy Bebop, Millard in Macross Plus) Best English Voice Actresses in an Anime 1. Wendee Lee (Faye in Cowboy Bebop, Angel in The Big O) 2. Bridget "Ruby Marlowe" Hoffman (Belldandy in Ah! My Goddess: The Movie, Mizuho in Please Teacher!) 3. Lia Sargent (Dorothy in The Big O, Milly in Trigun) Worst English Voice Actors in an Anime 1. Matt Hoverman (Harlock Saga - Worst Harlock voice. Ever.) 2. Spike Spencer (Shinji in Neon Genesis Evangelion, Mackie in Bubblegum Crisis Tokyo 2040) 3. Jason Beck (M.D. Geist. Need I say more?) Worst English Voice Actresses in an Anime 1. Rebecca "Reba West" Forstadt (A Little Snow Fairy Sugar , Minmei in Robotech) 2. Brigitta Dau (eps. 1-6 of Ranma 1/2 and eps. 1-4 of Ranma 1/2 OAV before Viz fired her) 3. Lisa Ortiz (Deedlit in Record of Lodoss War , Lina Inverse in CPM's Slayers releases) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Posted December 17, 2003 Share Posted December 17, 2003 I am a little suprised by the number of people who like the cowboy bebop dub. Personally I can't stand the voices. But in general I hate dubs, so I am probably not the best person to ask about dubs I thought were worth while. I will say the Gasaraki Dub was decent though. I agree, the bebop dub is extremely weak compared with the Japanese track. I really can't understand why anyone praises the Macross Plus dub. Aside from the script being way off a good share of the time, the SFX & BG being entirely replaced in ep 4, and the use of robotech voice actors...well, do I need anymore reason than that? My favorite dub: Doesn't exist Worst dub ever: another vote for robotech. And how the hell can anyone watch Mahoromatic dubbed? That's just so....wrong! I tried listening to one of Mahoro's little songs, and immediately switched back to the Japanese for safety. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Stryker Posted December 17, 2003 Share Posted December 17, 2003 best dubbing in animeGunfrontier Trigun Bebop of course Hellsing Macross Plus Galaxy Express 999 movie(viz version scott mcneil does a damn good harlock} Big O Utena Outlaw Star Nobody told ME about Galaxy Express 999 being dubbed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abombz!! Posted December 17, 2003 Share Posted December 17, 2003 (edited) Best english dubs: -Yu Yu Hakusho -Inu Yasha -Vandread Worst dubs: -Dragon Ball Z -MS Gundam -Saber Marionettes J -Samurai Troopers (known as Ronin Warriors) -Great Teacher Onizuka (besides the guy who played Onizuka, the rest of the cast couldn't act even if their lives depended on it) Edited December 17, 2003 by Abombz!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anubis Posted December 17, 2003 Author Share Posted December 17, 2003 On the subject of English dubs, who are the best and worst voices?My picks... Best English Voice Actors in an Anime 1. Steven Jay Blum (Spike in Cowboy Bebop, Roger in The Big O) 2. Steve Cannon (Daisuke in Heat Guy J, Shiro in Mobile Suit Gundam: The 08th MS Team) 3. John Billingslea (Jet Black in Cowboy Bebop, Millard in Macross Plus) Best English Voice Actresses in an Anime 1. Wendee Lee (Faye in Cowboy Bebop, Angel in The Big O) 2. Bridget "Ruby Marlowe" Hoffman (Belldandy in Ah! My Goddess: The Movie, Mizuho in Please Teacher!) 3. Lia Sargent (Dorothy in The Big O, Milly in Trigun) Worst English Voice Actors in an Anime 1. Matt Hoverman (Harlock Saga - Worst Harlock voice. Ever.) 2. Spike Spencer (Shinji in Neon Genesis Evangelion, Mackie in Bubblegum Crisis Tokyo 2040) 3. Jason Beck (M.D. Geist. Need I say more?) Worst English Voice Actresses in an Anime 1. Rebecca "Reba West" Forstadt (A Little Snow Fairy Sugar , Minmei in Robotech) 2. Brigitta Dau (eps. 1-6 of Ranma 1/2 and eps. 1-4 of Ranma 1/2 OAV before Viz fired her) 3. Lisa Ortiz (Deedlit in Record of Lodoss War , Lina Inverse in CPM's Slayers releases) That's where you got me. I cannot remember the names of these people to save my life. All I can say right now is "the guy that played Spike also played Ryuga in Mahoromatic". Stuff like that. I can associate Richard Cox, Crispin Freeman, and Wendee Lee directly, but that's it. Eventually I'll pick up some more of the names. As for your picks, I would have to concur there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bandit29 Posted December 17, 2003 Share Posted December 17, 2003 Some good dubs Inu Yasha Big O Macross Plus Cowboy Bebop Heat Guy J Cowboy Bebop Witch Hunter Robin Gundam MS 08th team Devil Lady Ninja Scroll the Movie Read or Die OVA Bad dubs Escaflowne TV and movie Fatal Fury Movies Record of Lodoss War OVA Samurai Showdown the Movie Crest of the Stars Vandread Blue Gender Hellsing(even I can do better British accents I suck lol) Saint Seiya on Cartoon Network AKA Zodiac Warriors or something Evangelion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRock Posted December 17, 2003 Share Posted December 17, 2003 Best 1: Cowboy Bebop 2: Chobits 3: Licensed by Royalty (L/R) 4: Golden Boy 5: Ai Yori Aoshi Worst 1: Evangelion 2: Sonic The Hedgehog (Both OVA and X versions) 3: Dragon Ball Z (Texas Cast) 4: Love Hina 5: Ghost in The Shell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jemstone Posted December 17, 2003 Share Posted December 17, 2003 Best English Dubs1. Cowboy Bebop (both TV series and movie) 2. Macross Plus 3. The Big O 4. Heat Guy J 5. Jin-Roh: The Wolf Brigade 6. Trigun 7. Gasaraki 8. Mobile Suit Gundam: The 08th MS Team 9. AKIRA (Pioneer version) 10. Ah! My Goddess: The Movie Worst English Dubs 1. Neon Genesis Evangelion 2. AKIRA (Streamline version) 3. Gatchaman 4. Dangaioh: Hyper Combat Unit 5. Mobile Suit Gundam: Char's Counterattack 6. Bubblegum Crisis 7. Urotsukidoji III: Return of the Overfiend 8. The Vision of Escaflowne 9. Demon City Shinjuku 10. Getter Robo Armageddon You're spot on with both posts excapt you missed one. WHoever did the voice of "Serena" for the Sailor Moon S dubb on cartoon network is without a doubt the worst VA in anime history. SHe makes Reba West's VA sound like the voice of an angel. It's that bad. For whatever insane reason I ahd at the time I tried to watch one of those "newly dubebd" Sailor Moon episodes (the previous VA was also terrible) and I feel like my life ahs been shortened by 5 years for watchign that crap. Yes, it's that bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightbat Posted December 17, 2003 Share Posted December 17, 2003 Give me Subs or give me death I was raised on subs, they practically taught me english not only that, but I like to see and hear "how it was meant to be" (can't stand the German stance of dubbing everything, including interviews -though I do admire the work they put into it) ofcourse when considering the choice of a lesser evil I'll always prefer an english dub over my own language (man, talk about Voice -over-Actors that suck) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bsu legato Posted December 17, 2003 Share Posted December 17, 2003 I'm surprised that there's been barely any mention of the infamous Macross II dub, but that could just be because nobody likes MII to begin with. The old Dominion Tank Police dub was pretty painfull too, as I recall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treatment Posted December 17, 2003 Share Posted December 17, 2003 (edited) hmmm. trying to remember... Best english-dubs: [*] Tenchi Muyo (OVA) [*] FLCL [*] Fruits Basket [*] Cowboy Bebop [*] Macross Plus [*] Dai-Guard [*] Dual! [*] Gundam 0080 [*] Gundam MS-08th Team [*] Oh! My Goddess (ova) [*] Outlaw Star [*] Orguss-02 [*] Excel Saga [*] Fushigi Yuugi [*] Trigun [*] Voices of a Distant Star [*] Read Or Die (ova) [*] Ninja Scroll (ova) [*] All-Purpose Cultural Catgirl NukuNuku (ova and dash) [*] Big-O [*] Photon [*] Getter Robo [*] MazinKaiser [*] Buttobi CPU [*] LA Blue Girl Average: [*] Ah! My Goddess (movie) [*] Adventures of Mini-Goddess [*] Irresponsible Captain Tylor [*] El Hazard (all of them) [*] Rorouni Kenshin/Samurai X (tv and ova's) [*] GTO [*] DBZ (funimation) [*] Rune Soldier [*] Video Girl Ai [*] DNA^2 [*] Mahoromatic and Mahoromatic-SMB [*] Inuyasha [*] Please Teacher [*] Steel Angel Kurumi [*] Ai Yori Aoshi [*] Full Metal Panic [*] Chobits [*] Kare Kano (His and Her Circumstances) [*] Nadesico [*] Ranma 1/2 [*] Princess Mononoke [*] Record of Lodoss War (ova) [*] Gunsmith Cats [*] .//hack [*] Hand Maid May [*] RahXephon [*] Street Fighter II (movie) [*] X [*] YuYu Hakusho Worst/Mediocre/Trash [*] Robotech [*] Robotech [*] Robotech [*] Robotech [*] Robotech [*] Macross II [*] Orguss-1 [*] Maison Ikkoku [*] Shin Kimagure Orange Road [*] DBZ (pioneer) [*] MS Gundam [*] Char's CounterAttack [*] MS Gundam 0083 [*] Gundam Wing [*] G-Gundam [*] Love Hina [*] Neon Genesis Evangelion [*] Fist of the North Star [*] Lodoss War (Knights) [*] Star Blazers [*] Blue Gender [*] Urusei Yatsura (CPM and Animeigo) I prolly forgot a bunch of others since I usually watch anime in subs. Edited December 17, 2003 by treatment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeus the zentran Posted December 17, 2003 Share Posted December 17, 2003 galaxy express dub is available through viz.roger corman did a version of it in the early 1980's which is suppossed to suck real bad.and i met reba west at a robotech convention in 1986 in valley forge, pennsylvania. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeus the zentran Posted December 17, 2003 Share Posted December 17, 2003 i have to say the space adventure cobra movie dub was pretty well done considering it was that dipshit macek who did it.and the woman who did serena sounds like she's got a head on top of mental retardation!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Posted December 17, 2003 Share Posted December 17, 2003 best dubbing in animeGunfrontier Trigun Bebop of course Hellsing Macross Plus Galaxy Express 999 movie(viz version scott mcneil does a damn good harlock} Big O Utena Outlaw Star Nobody told ME about Galaxy Express 999 being dubbed And with a little luck, you'll quickly forget that such a dub actually existed! Not that Viz won't help by burrying the movie license release for all eternity (thank you korean company for stealing their subtitle track & sticking it on your DVD's!). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Shade Posted December 17, 2003 Share Posted December 17, 2003 Wow, nobody mentioned "Laputa: Castle in the Sky" & "Kiki's Delivery Service" as having truly awful dubs. Come on, Kirsten Dunst is already one of the worst Hollywood actresses around, and she does the voice for Kiki? Arrrggghhh!!! I was trying to watch "Laputa" the other day with the gf. Since she is used to watching films in English, we watched the dub version. Eventually, she lost interest and fell asleep. (With the awful acting we were listening to, I can't say I blame her.) Then I switched over to the Japanese track. Much better. Why is it that Disney has to dumb down the voice acting for children. Do they actually think kids are stupid? On the other hand, the dub for "Spirirted Away" ("Sen to Chihiro no Kamikakushi") wasn't that bad. At least, they got a 13 year old to play Chihiro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seventh-moon Posted December 18, 2003 Share Posted December 18, 2003 The best dub ive ever seen( or rather herd) was FlCl the worst was macross2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treatment Posted December 18, 2003 Share Posted December 18, 2003 fwiw, I'm really dreading the upcoming ADV-dubs on next year's Azumanga Daioh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Shade Posted December 18, 2003 Share Posted December 18, 2003 Speaking of ADV, how's their dub for Full Metal Panic? Good or bad? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NERV Posted December 18, 2003 Share Posted December 18, 2003 Speaking of ADV, how's their dub for Full Metal Panic? Good or bad? i think its a good dub, nothing to write home about but watchable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenGuy42 Posted December 18, 2003 Share Posted December 18, 2003 not a hugely popular series.. but Crest of the Stars' dub was awful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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