Mommar Posted January 25, 2014 Posted January 25, 2014 As far as the VF-25 packs go, sure, it would be funny to see them fit on this YF-19, but honestly... I don't understand why everyone is so enamored with that particular kitbash. They look ok in fighter, but they would pretty much fail in every other mode. So pretty much exactly like the VF-25 then. Quote
Guest davidwhangchoi Posted January 25, 2014 Posted January 25, 2014 In addition to the secret for the holes at the root of the shoulders: Mr.K shares that the YF-19 during the prototype testing: 188 pieces in total he discovered the ankles were weak the fastpack were loose around the shoulders one elbow lock doesn't work one of the upper arm joint was loose He shares these problems weren't discovered until that point in time... which was with the second prototype model (named T-2). the blog ends with the goal of a fully painted "T-3" third prototype with the aim of correcting these flaws Quote
SaitouSad Posted January 25, 2014 Posted January 25, 2014 In addition to the secret for the holes at the root of the shoulders: Mr.K shares that the YF-19 during the prototype testing: 188 pieces in total he discovered the ankles were weak the fastpack were loose around the shoulders one elbow lock doesn't work one of the upper arm joint was loose He shares these problems weren't discovered until that point in time... which was with the second prototype model (named T-2). the blog ends with the goal of a fully painted "T-3" third prototype with the aim of correcting these flaws wow.. while it did worry me a little, I'm glad they're doing this many revisions of the prototype. Hopefully this will be the best YF-19 ever, and we won't need to fall back on a Arcadia V2 YF-19 Quote
MacrossJunkie Posted January 25, 2014 Posted January 25, 2014 I'm glad too. These things are getting way too expensive to have to go back and buy fixed versions. Quote
Scyla Posted January 25, 2014 Posted January 25, 2014 The leg parts still use the original YF-19 FP https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGEJvW6Y6D8 (eg at 0:20) I was referring to the VF-19S Excalibur not the prototype. Quote
close313 Posted January 25, 2014 Posted January 25, 2014 I was referring to the VF-19S Excalibur not the prototype. D'oh my bad, misunderstood Quote
Scyla Posted January 25, 2014 Posted January 25, 2014 (edited) No problem. If someone sends a question to Mr. K over Twitter can you forward the question if there are covers for the holes in the hinges where the shoulders swing outward? [edit:] Never mind. They seem to covers on the previous prototypes. Edited January 25, 2014 by Scyla Quote
Falcon18 Posted January 25, 2014 Posted January 25, 2014 I'm glad too. These things are getting way too expensive to have to go back and buy fixed versions. Agreed.. Wouldn't want to spend so much on this just to have it fall apart on us. Quote
skullmilitia Posted January 25, 2014 Posted January 25, 2014 The VF-4 made it to T3 before being approved, so we're still par for the course. Quote
Reïvaj Posted January 25, 2014 Posted January 25, 2014 I'm sorry guys but you all are discussing about very old news. The Arcadia YF-19 special site was updated on 12/12/2013. Since then the fully painted T3 was already been built and a pic of them (there were two of them actually) were posted in this very same thread on 01/07/2014. I'll re post the photo because it seems to have been forgotten: Quote
Guest davidwhangchoi Posted January 25, 2014 Posted January 25, 2014 The blog is retrospective. We talking about the process the T-2 testing went through in the past and what issues were discovered. I think it's pretty clear we know we're not waiting for T-3 to come out. the holes that are a secret in that same blog was never discussed on this thread. Quote
Reïvaj Posted January 25, 2014 Posted January 25, 2014 Ok, thanks. It wasn't that clear to me after you posted that "the blog ends with the goal of a fully painted "T-3" third prototype with the aim of correcting these flaws". Quote
Guest davidwhangchoi Posted January 25, 2014 Posted January 25, 2014 (edited) yeah, i haven't kept on up w/ the blog bc twitter is updating all the stuff daily. i should've looked at the 19 site earlier but it was a nice surprise to find a few a nuggets in there. "The Mystery Secret Holes of the 19" I think there was some concern going with ball joint ankles bc a few debated they were weak on the vf-19s/f so i posted those points to show at least he's reporting the ankles were weak and he's going to at least improve them. maybe that won't satisfy those who want ratchet ankles like the vf-1 but at least he's identified some weakness in them. (i think to me that's a good sign the QA testing is thorough) and me spending about 1k on 4 of these wants to know i won't be getting a product that's inferior and down line come out with a 2nd run with fixes that should've been taken care of initially by testing the product more thoroughly. (which i'm glad is happening) ex: 171 cannon fodder with black triangle shoulders disintegrating. Edited January 25, 2014 by davidwhangchoi Quote
Mommar Posted January 25, 2014 Posted January 25, 2014 yeah, i haven't kept on up w/ the blog bc twitter is updating all the stuff daily. i should've looked at the 19 site earlier but it was a nice surprise to find a few a nuggets in there. "The Mystery Secret Holes of the 19" I think there was some concern going with ball joint ankles bc a few debated they were weak on the vf-19s/f so i posted those points to show at least he's reporting the ankles were weak and he's going to at least improve them. maybe that won't satisfy those who want ratchet ankles like the vf-1 but at least he's identified some weakness in them. (i think to me that's a good sign the QA testing is thorough) and me spending about 1k on 4 of these wants to know i won't be getting a product that's inferior and down line come out with a 2nd run with fixes that should've been taken care of initially by testing the product more thoroughly. (which i'm glad is happening) ex: 171 cannon fodder with black triangle shoulders disintegrating. You did mention the dreaded ankles to him? Thank you! Honestly, if the ankles were closer to how the VF-4's were done I would be perfectly happy. They're pretty sturdy and they pose real well. Quote
Guest davidwhangchoi Posted January 25, 2014 Posted January 25, 2014 Actually,he admitted they were weak by himself, which i agree with you, i was hoping he would notice and glad he shared the weak ankles was a serious concern on his blog. Quote
Chronocidal Posted January 25, 2014 Posted January 25, 2014 Actually, I wouldn't really call them "weak" so much as they were just misdesigned somehow. The joint never worked right. Hopefully that's been sorted out now. Quote
xrentonx Posted January 26, 2014 Posted January 26, 2014 I got two on order so I'm crossing my fingers for a new ankle design! Quote
IXTL Posted January 28, 2014 Posted January 28, 2014 (edited) Some updates from Mr K's Twitter. Edited January 28, 2014 by IXTL Quote
SaitouSad Posted January 28, 2014 Posted January 28, 2014 Is that die-cast I see on the knee joints in the last Gerwalk pic?Also wondering how articulate this figure will be in Battoroid mode. Quote
barurutor Posted January 28, 2014 Posted January 28, 2014 Gorgeous plane! Looking even better now. Will it come with the same stand as the VF-1's? That diecast knee should be the same as the VF-19's. Quote
David Hingtgen Posted January 28, 2014 Posted January 28, 2014 THAT looks good. Overall color-wise, tampo-wise. Cockpit's too dark though. (and feet etc are still a tad too purple, but not TOO bad) And still missing the grey markings on the upper intakes. (seriously, just look at the 1/60 Yamato, they're right there, and the outline's even molded-in on the new Arcadia one---just paint between the lines!) Quote
charger69 Posted January 28, 2014 Posted January 28, 2014 ...just paint between the lines!.... Or read between the lines if yo do not paint it!!! . . . . . . . . j/k Quote
Isamu Dyson Posted January 28, 2014 Posted January 28, 2014 Any one notice the slots for the missiles under the wings? Not that it's a decision killer for me, however I wish there would be an alternative method for those who want to display it in flight mode angled upwards without those protruding pieces sticking out. Swappable wings for the purists? Quote
CrazyDude Posted January 28, 2014 Posted January 28, 2014 Maybe they could do swappable inserts as Bandai did on my 1/72 VF1-A/S. Quote
Mommar Posted January 28, 2014 Posted January 28, 2014 Maybe they could do swappable inserts as Bandai did on my 1/72 VF1-A/S. And don't forget the terrible solution they came up with for the 171... Looks like they have most of the markings on the thing now too, though I think it would look better if they went back to the more blue color on the feet, etc... Quote
wm cheng Posted January 28, 2014 Posted January 28, 2014 Are they really going to tampo all that? It would be great, but very un-Yamato-ish... I think its just all the stickers on. I'd be the first one to jump for joy if they really do tampo all that including the no-steps on the wings (they sure can do even smaller stuff with those Gundam Fix-Figuration around compound curved surfaces too!). Yeah, that grey stripe missing bugs me too. I really hope they include a stand too, but looking great (except for the intake lip - I will have to display it on a lower shelf so you're always looking down on it ;-) Quote
skullmilitia Posted January 28, 2014 Posted January 28, 2014 Stupid time relativity, April just feels further away the closer she gets. Quote
Falcon18 Posted January 28, 2014 Posted January 28, 2014 That looks awesomeee. Hopefully there are no problems wth this new prototype and all's well with it. If not, hopefully they'll fix it on the next iteration (if any). I think those are just normal stickers. As you can see on the high speed mode picture, the left wing has the no step whereas the right wing does not. So the tampo would probably be like most releases and be a minimum. Gorgeous plane! Looking even better now. Will it come with the same stand as the VF-1's?That diecast knee should be the same as the VF-19's. Mr.K's stated in twitter along with the pictures that the stand is not included. It's just been used to display the pictures. Any one notice the slots for the missiles under the wings? Not that it's a decision killer for me, however I wish there would be an alternative method for those who want to display it in flight mode angled upwards without those protruding pieces sticking out. Swappable wings for the purists? That's how it's always been with all Yamatos/Arcadia. I doubt anything will change about that. You just learn to live with it. Heh. Quote
IXTL Posted January 28, 2014 Posted January 28, 2014 I really hope they include a stand too, but looking great (except for the intake lip - I will have to display it on a lower shelf so you're always looking down on it ;-) The stand is definitely not included. Mr K makes a point to mention it twice in his latest Twitter updates. Quote
Kyp Durron Posted January 28, 2014 Posted January 28, 2014 Are they really going to tampo all that? It would be great, but very un-Yamato-ish... I think its just all the stickers on. I'd be the first one to jump for joy if they really do tampo all that including the no-steps on the wings (they sure can do even smaller stuff with those Gundam Fix-Figuration around compound curved surfaces too!). Yeah, that grey stripe missing bugs me too. I really hope they include a stand too, but looking great (except for the intake lip - I will have to display it on a lower shelf so you're always looking down on it ;-) If Bandai can do it, Arcadia can to, there's NO EXCUSE. -Kyp Quote
wm cheng Posted January 28, 2014 Posted January 28, 2014 The stand is definitely not included. Mr K makes a point to mention it twice in his latest Twitter updates. Boo!!! If Bandai can do it, Arcadia can to, there's NO EXCUSE. -Kyp My feelings exactly, there's no excuse... but that hasn't stopped them from NOT printing the stuff in the past. Quote
close313 Posted January 28, 2014 Posted January 28, 2014 Were the grey markings you were talking about the grey L shapes? Yea they're supposed to be fully black from the lineart but from what I can see from the fourth picture, it is recessed to be like an 'intake' (pardon if I identify it wrongly) with the grey being the intake surroundings and the black painted inside. Hard to see from the top since the black portion is perpendicular from the ground. But that's only judging from these 4 pictures, I haven't checked the previous pictures we've had. Quote
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