Guest davidwhangchoi Posted November 28, 2014 Posted November 28, 2014 it's something yamato/arcadia thought about in the past but will be too expensive if made now. (it was shelved) Quote
Guest davidwhangchoi Posted November 28, 2014 Posted November 28, 2014 (edited) Why is he sharing it now? lol, he noticed bandai's hi metal revival. Mr. K should've shown a photo of the vt-1 and max and miria. brought some attention back to arcadia Edited November 28, 2014 by davidwhangchoi Quote
charger69 Posted November 28, 2014 Posted November 28, 2014 lol, he noticed bandai's hi metal revival. Mr. K should've shown a photo of the vt-1 and max and miria. brought some attention back to arcadia So, you are saying that Mr.K is a slowpoke! You blasphemous! Quote
Valkyrie addict Posted November 28, 2014 Posted November 28, 2014 Everything is too expensive for Arcadia, except human size gunpods that go pew pew Quote
Loop Posted November 28, 2014 Posted November 28, 2014 And creepy dolls... I love the stuff that Yamato/Arcadia puts out, I hope they do bring out a competing 1/100 scale line against the HI-Metals. The only stuff I like in the Hi-Metal line so far are the destroid's and the enemy mecha. I am kind of turned off of the line though because the VF-1's don't look right to me at all. Quote
Reïvaj Posted November 29, 2014 Posted November 29, 2014 But thanks to davidwhangchoi we already know that Mr-K mentioned that the project was shelved a long time ago because it'd be too expensive if made now. Quote
Guest davidwhangchoi Posted November 29, 2014 Posted November 29, 2014 (edited) But thanks to davidwhangchoi we already know that Mr-K mentioned that the project was shelved a long time ago because it'd be too expensive if made now. no need for thanks, you're always helping re-size pics for better clearer images on scoops i hope arcadia has some more things up their sleeve to compete with bandai. Bandai's always getting everyone hooked on scarce pre-orders and once it's about to be released, they throw up a bunch of announcements to get you more hooked. and then they short you on pre-orders! Edited November 29, 2014 by davidwhangchoi Quote
rov Posted December 3, 2014 Posted December 3, 2014 I was in akihabara lastweek, there was a bunch of vf19's(one store had 6 all new) but no yf19, all sold out saw different valks also, some stores had different prices which made me wonder, are they preowned? Quote
David Hingtgen Posted February 26, 2015 Posted February 26, 2015 So, has anyone successfully tightened the "middle" hinge in the wing swing-bar? That's the most important one, and the loosest one. It can make the wings swing out even when the wings are in the full-back high-speed position. (and of course, allows the wings to fall back from full-forward if a moth flies by it...) I just added some more clear nail polish to mine again, but the actual pivot is inaccessible, I can only add layers where the two bars "overlap" which has little effect. I've considered clamping down hard on the rivet with pliers, as that should tighten the joint by expanding the rivet's bottom end--but I don't really want to badly mar the metal. (moderate pressure leaves some small marks, and accomplished nothing---but you can't see it anyways, in either position) Quote
no3Ljm Posted February 26, 2015 Posted February 26, 2015 @David Hingtgen Mine as well. It's starting to become loose. Quote
ChaoticYeti Posted February 26, 2015 Posted February 26, 2015 Using pliers on the rivet is probably the best option. If you are worried about marring the metal put something inebetween the hinge and the pliers. Thick card stock, or something similar. Quote
Chronocidal Posted February 26, 2015 Posted February 26, 2015 I can vouch for the pliers method as well, I think I used some with a smooth internal surface, so it didn't make any marks on the metal. Quote
David Hingtgen Posted February 26, 2015 Posted February 26, 2015 Chronocidal----so you've actually flattened/expanded the rivet, and it worked? Quote
no3Ljm Posted February 26, 2015 Posted February 26, 2015 Using pliers on the rivet is probably the best option. If you are worried about marring the metal put something inebetween the hinge and the pliers. Thick card stock, or something similar. I can vouch for the pliers method as well, I think I used some with a smooth internal surface, so it didn't make any marks on the metal. Thanks for the advices, guys. I might try this one if it really become so loose. But curious though. Is this going to be like a lifetime thing? Like once it gets loose again and again, will keep on using pliers on the said rivet? Any chance that the area will keep on somehow 'flattening' ovetime? Thanks. Quote
ChaoticYeti Posted February 26, 2015 Posted February 26, 2015 Thanks for the advices, guys. I might try this one if it really become so loose. But curious though. Is this going to be like a lifetime thing? Like once it gets loose again and again, will keep on using pliers on the said rivet? Any chance that the area will keep on somehow 'flattening' ovetime? Thanks. it will have the potential to become loose over time depending on how much you mess with it, but I suspect there were inconsistencies in the assembly of the wing hinge. When I got mine fresh out of the box one side was stiff, and the other moved on its own when rolling the Valkyrie left and right. Quote
Guest davidwhangchoi Posted February 27, 2015 Posted February 27, 2015 it will have the potential to become loose over time depending on how much you mess with it, but I suspect there were inconsistencies in the assembly of the wing hinge. When I got mine fresh out of the box one side was stiff, and the other moved on its own when rolling the Valkyrie left and right. yeah same with me... reason i don't move anything on the 19. but i'm glad someone posted how to tighten them thanks!!!! Quote
Valkyrie Driver Posted March 1, 2015 Posted March 1, 2015 That seems to be a bit of a design flaw to me. The way the wings worked on the Yamato was just fine. You couldn't swing the wings back in fighter mode, but IIRC that never happened in M+. I guess I'll find out as I"m watching it now... Quote
ChaoticYeti Posted March 1, 2015 Posted March 1, 2015 (edited) That seems to be a bit of a design flaw to me. The way the wings worked on the Yamato was just fine. You couldn't swing the wings back in fighter mode, but IIRC that never happened in M+. I guess I'll find out as I"m watching it now... It does. It is a "high speed mode" configuration. I could have done without it, but they were going for the kitchen sink. Edit: Grabbed some frames. Edited March 1, 2015 by ChaoticYeti Quote
spanner Posted March 1, 2015 Posted March 1, 2015 the wings on the YF-21 fold down like the North Amercian XB-70.. I wonder if the same principal of compression lift applies to the YF-21!?!? Quote
ChaoticYeti Posted March 1, 2015 Posted March 1, 2015 Guld throws the 21 in high speed a lot more than Isamu does with the 19, and it is also animated more deliberately. Quote
spanner Posted March 1, 2015 Posted March 1, 2015 Guld throws the 21 in high speed a lot more than Isamu does with the 19, and it is also animated more deliberately. hehe! shows the superior performance of the 19 if Guld had to use HP mode more often.. Well actually I don't know if that is the case but I'd certainly like to think so! Quote
Chronocidal Posted March 1, 2015 Posted March 1, 2015 Sorry for the late reply, but yes, I did a combination of a drop of super glue on the inner surface of the joint and moving it while it dried, and then gripping lightly with pliers over the rivet. I don't move them that often, so the joints have remained tight so far. Quote
Valkyrie Driver Posted March 1, 2015 Posted March 1, 2015 It does. It is a "high speed mode" configuration. I could have done without it, but they were going for the kitchen sink. Edit: Grabbed some frames. I stand corrected. I paused it and got distracted, Still would have missed it had I not been looking for it. I don't really like VG wings, coming from an aeronautics perspective. I also really have a difficult time envisioning how the wings on the 19 would actually swing back (without the mechanism on the arcadia), which would not be viable. Aerodynamically it's flawed. Not to mention, you'd lose a lot of lift with that configuration... Ah well, that's not a discussion for this board... Quote
Lonely Soldier Boy Posted March 1, 2015 Posted March 1, 2015 I'm planning on getting a second hand Arcadia 19 soon since I don't care much for Bandai's version. Is it a good buy? Are they any more flaws I should be aware of? Quote
xrentonx Posted March 1, 2015 Posted March 1, 2015 (edited) For me it was absolutely a good buy. I have two. It's likely going to be the most accurate Battroid for the 19 in this scale for some time. Fighter mode is beautiful. Battroid mode is beautiful and it even looks good in Gerwalk. I have two Bandai's along the way but I can tell their 19 is not gonna be like the 19 I saw in Plus (in terms of proportions; obviously it's not the same since it's a VF designation and not a YF). It should be a fun one to own as well but if you're looking for a PLUS version 19, the Arcadia is gonna be pretty hard to pass up imho. Edited March 1, 2015 by xrentonx Quote
Lonely Soldier Boy Posted March 1, 2015 Posted March 1, 2015 Thanks, Renton. Now I just have to find one at a fair price. Quote
jenius Posted March 1, 2015 Posted March 1, 2015 I finally got my hands on one of these... looking forward to playing with it. Quote
Silverstreak Posted March 1, 2015 Posted March 1, 2015 It's a total PITA to transform, but damn it looks good on display! Quote
derex3592 Posted March 1, 2015 Posted March 1, 2015 Thanks, Renton. Now I just have to find one at a fair price. Check the For Sale thread. Kicker has 3 for sale. Quote
vsim Posted March 2, 2015 Posted March 2, 2015 I stand corrected. I paused it and got distracted, Still would have missed it had I not been looking for it. I don't really like VG wings, coming from an aeronautics perspective. I also really have a difficult time envisioning how the wings on the 19 would actually swing back (without the mechanism on the arcadia), which would not be viable. Aerodynamically it's flawed. Not to mention, you'd lose a lot of lift with that configuration... Ah well, that's not a discussion for this board... The only aerodynamic advantage to swinging back the wing that far would be purely to reduce drag. Of course elephant in the room is the loss of lift that would accompany it (as was said above). You would be reduced to the lift you get from the body itself, which could easily start to counteract any reduction in drag you got in the first place. So, yeah, only good for reducing drag under conditions where very little lift is required..let's just call it lawn dart mode. I can't even see it being that useful at higher Mach numbers because I don't think it would help much to sweep the wings back that far when the forebody and wing root are already going to be forming shock waves anyway. I've always liked swept forward wing configurations and the benefits they get in control surface effectiveness at high angles of attack compared to normal aft swept wings. Quote
Loop Posted March 3, 2015 Posted March 3, 2015 (edited) Oh yeah all about that AOT, I used to play a game called Jane's ATF on PC. OMG did I have an advantage using the X-31?? if I am correct (I could be so wrong). Was so fun having dog fights in the office during slow times in the summer. Edited May 19, 2015 by Loop Quote
bbogi Posted March 9, 2015 Posted March 9, 2015 (edited) YF-19 full weapon!! Edited March 9, 2015 by bbogi Quote
aaajin Posted March 9, 2015 Posted March 9, 2015 (edited) sweet. someone needs to get his hands on those shoulder missles packs...*hint* *hint* Kur-ehem-sama Edited March 9, 2015 by aaajin Quote
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