barurutor Posted December 18, 2013 Posted December 18, 2013 They really should sell the stand separately, they'd probably make a killing on all Yamato owners looking for nice stands. Quote
Mechapilot77 Posted December 18, 2013 Posted December 18, 2013 I tried it. The Arcadia stand is a brick. I would be happy if they packed it in with the YF-19, or at least sold it separately. It holds up my VF-19 in all modes. The arm locks in place at all joints, and you have a pivot on the top where you plug in the valk connector, and even that one needs to be removed and reattached as it does not rotate freely. It is more solid than my Yamato launch arm stand. I do hope they revise the storage covers, though. I have to use a tweezers to lift them up. is it just the photo are is the eye a brighter green than the old yammies? (i haven't unboxed mine yet lol) Quote
recon Posted December 19, 2013 Posted December 19, 2013 The update pics looks great. Now do a super nova YF-19 too but with a minimal payload and at a cheaper price Quote
Mommar Posted December 19, 2013 Posted December 19, 2013 Wow, it holds like that with a brick like the VF-17 on it. How heavy is that base? Quote
zzgundam010 Posted December 19, 2013 Posted December 19, 2013 I really like the storage space in the base. Quote
GU-11 Posted December 19, 2013 Posted December 19, 2013 This being essentially the same base that was designed for the YF-21, it makes sense that it would support similarly large and/or heavy Valks. Quote
ChaoticYeti Posted December 19, 2013 Posted December 19, 2013 It is slick. I'd buy at least 4 stands if they sell them. And I hope the YF-19 has it included, or at least something in this ballpark. Might need more storage space for all of the extras, though. Quote
happy_spike Posted December 19, 2013 Posted December 19, 2013 I've been wanting to get a nice stand for my yammie Skull-1. And it seems that one is a perfect fit. I'd love to see if they plan to do one separately. Can I ask if you can post a pic with it in Gerwalk on that stand? Quote
Chronocidal Posted December 19, 2013 Posted December 19, 2013 I do like the stand, but unfortunately, the problem with VF-19 stands isn't that they don't exist, it's that the plane won't stay on the adapter, at least for me. I tried mounting one of my VF-19s on one of the Bandai stands, using that shapeways adapter. The stand held the weight fine, but the VF-19 kept falling off of the adapter, because the mounting point is so freaking far forward of the center of gravity. If they don't come up with a better location to mount the stands, you're better off using some other type of stand, like a Flightpose one, or doing what I'm planning: designing a custom adapter that'll lock into the underside of the backplate, so the thing is actually somewhat balanced. Quote
Mommar Posted December 19, 2013 Posted December 19, 2013 I do like the stand, but unfortunately, the problem with VF-19 stands isn't that they don't exist, it's that the plane won't stay on the adapter, at least for me. I tried mounting one of my VF-19s on one of the Bandai stands, using that shapeways adapter. The stand held the weight fine, but the VF-19 kept falling off of the adapter, because the mounting point is so freaking far forward of the center of gravity. If they don't come up with a better location to mount the stands, you're better off using some other type of stand, like a Flightpose one, or doing what I'm planning: designing a custom adapter that'll lock into the underside of the backplate, so the thing is actually somewhat balanced. It works fine in Battroid, okay in Gerwalk... and pretty much not at all in Fighter. Quote
Reïvaj Posted December 19, 2013 Posted December 19, 2013 (edited) It looks amazing. One question though : what are we looking at in that close-up picture of the shoulder/arm mechanism in fighter mode? That's one of the SP pieces as shown here: That's also one of the pieces that need further revision. I currently fits extremely tight. How will you guys manhandle your YF-19's without breaking off the canards? I think that it would be best to break them off once you open the box just to have it done. If they're anything like the VF-19KAI ones I wouldn't be worried. They're pretty strong but If you still don't feel comfortable enough when manhandling your valk with them on you can just temporarily take them away. Quick question. Is it confirmed that the toy will come with an included stand? Has someone tested the stand that came with Roy's VF-1S with the VF-19 from Yamato? Unfortunately, it's been stated that this valk isn't including a stand. Edited December 19, 2013 by Reïvaj Quote
barurutor Posted December 19, 2013 Posted December 19, 2013 That sucks. How are the VF-19s on the old Yamato launch arm stands? Quote
Chronocidal Posted December 19, 2013 Posted December 19, 2013 Fine for battroid, a little unstable in gerwalk, and potentially useless in fighter. The little clips on the fighter-mode adapter weren't enough to keep mine on the stand, even sitting level, because the plane is just so back-heavy, and the stand is mounted so far forward. Quote
happy_spike Posted December 19, 2013 Posted December 19, 2013 Chronocidal, have you tried super glue , I've heard it fixes everyhting Quote
skullmilitia Posted December 19, 2013 Posted December 19, 2013 I asked MrK about selling the stands and he said along the lines of, "I think we will sell them, please wait for future news" So there's that! Quote
happy_spike Posted December 19, 2013 Posted December 19, 2013 Awesome! Thanks for asking him. That's great to hear. Quote
Chronocidal Posted December 19, 2013 Posted December 19, 2013 Pfft Yeah, short of gluing my VF-19s to the stands, mine won't stay on. I know some people have, but mine just don't clip on tight enough. Though, honestly, I guess I also haven't worried about it that much, since I don't have room to display them on stands anyway. All mine just sit on the feet in fighter mode. Quote
Frogze Posted December 19, 2013 Posted December 19, 2013 Thanks for answering my question guys! It's great to see that this piece also fits in all mode, I must admit I had doubts it would. Now this is really going to be an amazing piece in my collection, I can't wait for the April release! Quote
Sandman Posted December 19, 2013 Posted December 19, 2013 I asked MrK about selling the stands and he said along the lines of, "I think we will sell them, please wait for future news" So there's that! I wonder how much they will charge for them? Quote
Mommar Posted December 19, 2013 Posted December 19, 2013 As much as possible. LMAO... we will pay for them, won't we? Quote
Reïvaj Posted December 19, 2013 Posted December 19, 2013 Exactly. And we will even be grateful Quote
skullmilitia Posted December 19, 2013 Posted December 19, 2013 How will you guys manhandle your YF-19's without breaking off the canards? I think that it would be best to break them off once you open the box just to have it done. Sorry, they aren't Bandai's, VF-19's don't just crumble out of the box. Quote
M'Kyuun Posted December 19, 2013 Posted December 19, 2013 I happily and gratefully preorderd mine. My Yammie 19's right arm fell off one day, crumbled at the shoulder irreparably. So this new one, with all the added bells and whistles, is most welcome. Quote
Guest davidwhangchoi Posted December 19, 2013 Posted December 19, 2013 Great, this release is jinxed now. haha hopefully the next prototype pictures "T-3" will un-jinx it. Quote
Raptor One Posted December 19, 2013 Posted December 19, 2013 Wait, does this come with waterslides too? Quote
Mommar Posted December 20, 2013 Posted December 20, 2013 Pfft Yeah, short of gluing my VF-19s to the stands, mine won't stay on. I know some people have, but mine just don't clip on tight enough. Though, honestly, I guess I also haven't worried about it that much, since I don't have room to display them on stands anyway. All mine just sit on the feet in fighter mode. I was able to get the VF-19P to stay on the stand in fighter. There's pics of it in one of the older threads. But I would NOT leave it like that. I'd be worried the weird stress on the neck would cause some sort of damage. Quote
Reïvaj Posted December 20, 2013 Posted December 20, 2013 Are the launch arm grabbers of any use? Don't they help to hold the valk? Quote
Renato Posted December 20, 2013 Posted December 20, 2013 Are the launch arm grabbers of any use? Don't they help to hold the valk? No, because the "grabbers" are too far to the front (as is the actual attachment point), and they have no grip anyway. The problem is that the die-cast content is all concentrated towards the rear of the plane -- legs, knee-joints, shoulder-joints, back-thruster... it makes everything in that area heavy and so the center of gravity is probably between the knees or somewhere thereabouts. Placing the stand attachment near the neck of the plane makes no sense at all... Quote
Reïvaj Posted December 20, 2013 Posted December 20, 2013 Well, actually, it kind of makes sense: the stand attachment is placed in the only place that can hold the valk in both fighter and gerwalk mode. That used to be Yamato's common practice. It's a shame they didn't find another solution for this particular model. Quote
Chronocidal Posted December 20, 2013 Posted December 20, 2013 Actually, no, there's no reason you couldn't mount the stand directly to the metal backplate. It doesn't move in gerwalk at all, and on top of that, it's already where the sound booster goes, so you already have slots to mount things. Once I get myself a 3d printer, I'm going to go about making myself some mounts that clip around that backplate, right between the knee joints. I probably won't distribute them, but I'll put the design up on shapeways when it's workable. Quote
Mommar Posted December 20, 2013 Posted December 20, 2013 Actually, no, there's no reason you couldn't mount the stand directly to the metal backplate. It doesn't move in gerwalk at all, and on top of that, it's already where the sound booster goes, so you already have slots to mount things. Once I get myself a 3d printer, I'm going to go about making myself some mounts that clip around that backplate, right between the knee joints. I probably won't distribute them, but I'll put the design up on shapeways when it's workable. Where is there a back plate that stays in the same spot in both fighter and gerwalk that far back? Would supporting the weight of the craft be safe there? I'd love to have a mount that puts the weight farther back. Quote
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