Reïvaj Posted July 5, 2013 Posted July 5, 2013 More so than an undersized sculpted fan disk sitting 2 millimeters past the lip of the intake? Yeah, I don't think that'd look any better. What do you think about the YF-19 ones? Quote
MacrossJunkie Posted July 5, 2013 Posted July 5, 2013 That's way too shallow, imo. It's right at the edge. I think they'd be better off just making it flat with no fan and painting it black like what Bandai did with the VF-27. Quote
Reïvaj Posted July 5, 2013 Posted July 5, 2013 That's way too shallow, imo. It's right at the edge. I think they'd be better off just making it flat with no fan and painting it black like what Bandai did with the VF-27. That's never been Yamato's way. I guess that if you want the intake to be black you'll have to paint the fan. Not a big deal for Mr. MacrossJunkie! Quote
MacrossJunkie Posted July 5, 2013 Posted July 5, 2013 That area would have to be replaced altogether. Painting the fan and surrounding area black would just have a visible black fan =( Quote
Benbot Posted July 5, 2013 Posted July 5, 2013 Oh, BTW, would it be too much to ask to get these repaints/bundles down the line: 20100207WF2010Winter036D26-03YF19SoundBooster2.jpg20100207WF2010Winter036D26-03YF19SoundBooster4.jpg I'll pay any price. Any. Price. Quote
1/1 LowViz Lurker Posted July 5, 2013 Posted July 5, 2013 Looking good. So about the ankles? Will they just go with the vf-19 ones? I remember all the complaining about how you could not do the GERWALK mode pose where you place the feet forward as much as possible and the butt of the plane further back to make it more balanced due to the design of the ball or socket. People felt this made the GERWALK look like it's nose was sticking too far ahead and gives the GERWALK mode a less aggressive appearance. If you have a stand and use that to pose GERWALK mode none of that matters much since you don't have to keep the feet flush to the ground. But for those who like to pose a GERWALK on flat surface it can make the mode look cooler. Will they be redesigning the ankles so you can pose the feet at more extreme angles forward and back without wrecking anything? Quote
Mommar Posted July 5, 2013 Posted July 5, 2013 Looking good. So about the ankles? Will they just go with the vf-19 ones? I remember all the complaining about how you could not do the GERWALK mode pose where you place the feet forward as much as possible and the butt of the plane further back to make it more balanced due to the design of the ball or socket. People felt this made the GERWALK look like it's nose was sticking too far ahead and gives the GERWALK mode a less aggressive appearance. If you have a stand and use that to pose GERWALK mode none of that matters much since you don't have to keep the feet flush to the ground. But for those who like to pose a GERWALK on flat surface it can make the mode look cooler. Will they be redesigning the ankles so you can pose the feet at more extreme angles forward and back without wrecking anything? It affects pose-ability and fun. Nobody complaining about the ankles used the term "aggressive" as far as I'm aware. It was the people saying the ankles were fine that kept repeating that term. Quote
Chronocidal Posted July 5, 2013 Posted July 5, 2013 It wasn't the nose sticking too far ahead, it was the plane nosing over into the ground because the feet couldn't bend far enough to place the legs far enough forward to put them under the center of gravity. The stand mount on the VF-19 was worthless though. By far, the least sturdy attachment point of any Yammie to date. Fighter mode was far too back-heavy for the clip to stay attached on mine, and even for gerwalk with the legs flipped forward, the stand mount was still too far forward of the balance point for the thing to not topple off backwards. Quote
1/1 LowViz Lurker Posted July 6, 2013 Posted July 6, 2013 (edited) Ah ok. I usually keep all my valks in plane mode. The VF-19 was obviously for the robot mode fans because it looks posable in that mode. And keeping the feet heavy may help in that form. (In macross 7 most of the action of the fire valk is basara in his robot mode singing) But unlike VF-1 as a GERWALK the 19 series has always looked a little weird to me so I never pose it in that mode. Maybe they neglected it because they didn't think many give a crap? (sort of like how the original 1/48 has tiny little hands because it was going for F-Mode the most?) Out of all the modes the YF-19 is best in Fighter and Robot mode the most for me. VF-4 is fighter mode. (how they got it so slim I don't know) And VF-1 I think GERWALK, fighter and robot modes are roughly about equal in love. Has it been confirmed if this will be glossy like the macross 7 valks? Edited July 6, 2013 by 1/1 LowViz Lurker Quote
1/1 LowViz Lurker Posted July 6, 2013 Posted July 6, 2013 (edited) variable glaug = best GERWALK imo When people complained about the VF-4 not having really posable shoulders I kind of didn't mind this since I know it originally wasn't even supposed to transform into a robot. I hope that for the yf-19 they mostly aim for good fighter and robot mode. In the show it was mostly in these the most. (now that they finally got the hint to the importance of having a locking chest with the VF-19, not having one for yf-19 will be inexcusable lol. V2 YF-19 committed the sin of not being lockable in all modes and is pretty much fighter mode all the time for me.) Edited July 6, 2013 by 1/1 LowViz Lurker Quote
anime52k8 Posted July 6, 2013 Posted July 6, 2013 variable glaug = best GERWALK imo not even close to the VB-6: Quote
1/1 LowViz Lurker Posted July 6, 2013 Posted July 6, 2013 (edited) That's more of an artillery bot though. (ie destroid) Yeah it can fly around like the birds but it is fat and most of the time when it fires it is going to need something firm to keep it falling over hehe. I like that one too though. But the variable Glaug looks like it can hop around like a giant bunny as you saw the regular looking version in SDFM. You can't get that kind of agility with monsters. You saw how easy Kamjin blew off hikaru's arms with one. The zentradi are the king of GERWALK. They had their version long before humans made humanoid robots bend over backwards to put their head in their butts and call that a mode. Edited July 6, 2013 by 1/1 LowViz Lurker Quote
r_hunter85 Posted July 6, 2013 Posted July 6, 2013 not even close to the VB-6: Seconded. I always loved the Monster mk. II and VB-6 was an awesome surprise when I first saw it on Frontier. I know the toy would be massive but I still hope for a 1/60 scale one day. lol Quote
raptormesh Posted July 6, 2013 Posted July 6, 2013 Seconded. I always loved the Monster mk. II and VB-6 was an awesome surprise when I first saw it on Frontier. I know the toy would be massive but I still hope for a 1/60 scale one day. lol Hell yes that would be a dream and a centerpiece. Quote
1/1 LowViz Lurker Posted July 6, 2013 Posted July 6, 2013 (edited) Maybe in the future with commercial space travel some crazy rich guy (who made his fortune in space tourism) actually makes a real shuttle that transforms into a robot like that for the military? We already have the drones everywhere now so perhaps in future the next step is shuttles that can kill enemy in space war by turning into a big robot? Edited July 6, 2013 by 1/1 LowViz Lurker Quote
anime52k8 Posted July 6, 2013 Posted July 6, 2013 Maybe in the future with commercial space travel some crazy rich guy (who made his fortune in space tourism) actually makes a real shuttle that transforms into a robot like that for the military? We already have the drones everywhere now so perhaps in future the next step is shuttles that can kill enemy in space war by turning into a big robot? um... yeah, I've got nothing. Quote
1/1 LowViz Lurker Posted July 6, 2013 Posted July 6, 2013 (edited) Well people are working on this stuff for the ground: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4US851IaOc ^real life destroid. Only a matter of time before transforming robots become reality and they make space versions. Just need to have an alien invasion by genetically modified space giants now... With the help of kickstarter, I bet all kinds of macross fans will try to eventually build their own type of monstrosity (and sell them) given the amount you already invest in the toy versions of mechs. lol The next big thing is going to be commercial travel to space. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HO0EtiVH580 If you get attacked and eject in your escape capsule, and have no weapon you are going to need a little protective suit. The kurutas looks like it would be a good candidate for a "normal suit" (the small mobile suits in gundam that workers use in the show) in the near future perhaps when we colonise moon/mars? There is demand for volunteers to be the first mars colonists: http://www.space.com/21005-mars-one-colony-applications.html Hope they don't encounter space lobsters. It is a one way trip after all.. Edited July 6, 2013 by 1/1 LowViz Lurker Quote
Mommar Posted July 6, 2013 Posted July 6, 2013 That's not a rebuttal, that's childish nonsense. Quote
raptormesh Posted July 6, 2013 Posted July 6, 2013 Yeah doesn't add to the discussion whatsover and is annoying. On the other hand lowViz was getting quite OOT. Quote
Mommar Posted July 6, 2013 Posted July 6, 2013 True. When is Wonder Festival again? End of this month? Quote
1/1 LowViz Lurker Posted July 6, 2013 Posted July 6, 2013 (edited) Can't wait to hear the prices of this. Looks like I can finally get rid of the old yf-19 to clear space. The worst out of the 3 macross plus yammies imo. Can't believe yamato forgot to lock the chest to the rest of the body even though the 1/72 version had that. I like the yf-19 as a fan of the actual mech. But the toy wasn't up to the high standards I was hoping for. If transformers toys can have every mode lock together firmly, so should all macross toys. Sounds like the old 19 was rushed a bit. Much like the VB-6 Monster, it could have had improvements with little extra effort needed to make it feel complete. Edited July 6, 2013 by 1/1 LowViz Lurker Quote
danth Posted July 7, 2013 Posted July 7, 2013 (edited) If transformers toys can have every mode lock together firmly, so should all macross toys. I have a Masterpiece Thundercracker I'm willing to sell ya. Edited July 7, 2013 by danth Quote
Shaorin Posted July 7, 2013 Posted July 7, 2013 (edited) I remember all the complaining about how you could not do the GERWALK mode pose where you place the feet forward as much as possible and the butt of the plane further back to make it more balanced due to the design of the ball or socket. People felt this made the GERWALK look like it's nose was sticking too far ahead and gives the GERWALK mode a less aggressive appearance. It wasn't the nose sticking too far ahead, it was the plane nosing over into the ground because the feet couldn't bend far enough to place the legs far enough forward to put them under the center of gravity. Edited July 7, 2013 by Shaorin Quote
Mommar Posted July 7, 2013 Posted July 7, 2013 (edited) That is not full Gerwalk. Besides, nobody ever said you couldn't stand it up in Gerwalk. We said it was tenuous, not balanced well. If you had a loose toe it would easily topple and you only had maybe one or two ways to splay the legs that worked. Quit pretending like we don't know how to pose the Valk. Gerwalk is my favorite mode and this one is terrible to try to pose in any way. Edited July 7, 2013 by Mommar Quote
skullmilitia Posted July 7, 2013 Posted July 7, 2013 Yeah the 19's Ger is a joke, hopefully this new mold has a good ger. Quote
Shaorin Posted July 8, 2013 Posted July 8, 2013 man, what sort of poses are you guys trying to get, anyhow? Quote
skullmilitia Posted July 8, 2013 Posted July 8, 2013 The fact that the entire top half stays loose in order for the arms out is absurd. Quote
anime52k8 Posted July 8, 2013 Posted July 8, 2013 The fact that the entire top half stays loose in order for the arms out is absurd. It's tabbed in pretty securely on the VF-19's. Quote
Gakken85 Posted July 8, 2013 Posted July 8, 2013 It's hilarious to look at Yahoo Japan right now... Quote
skullmilitia Posted July 8, 2013 Posted July 8, 2013 It's tabbed in pretty securely on the VF-19's. How so, the arms are lower than the wings, even the box back shows the rear fuselage Lifted higher then the main. The rear at least on the P, won't / can't lock in With the arms out. Quote
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