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Well everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I'm not saying I'm right, the only thing I can do is compare things I've heard and seen in real life situations and compare them to what I've seen in Macross.

In my eyes, Minmei is self-centered. She only wants to be around Hikaru when it's convenient for her. She got all butt-hurt when she saw and heard Hikaru and Misa's conversation in town and ran off crying because he added photos of Misa in the photo album. Now...would a girl who had no feelings towards a guy get that sad about a few pictures? So, I think Minmei loved Hikaru (which is why I retracted my accusations of her leading him on), but again she's a bit selfish because she wanted Hikaru to leave the military and settle down. She didn't think he could settle down with her and still be in the military? And when the bombs started flying from Kamjin's ship, she tried to keep him from protecting the city only so that she didn't have to be alone.

I'm not saying that Hikaru is off the hook either. Some of the things that he did to Misa (intentionally and unintentionally) were pretty f*cked up. So, I'm not playing a blame game on anyone. I'm just giving MY interpretation of Minmei: Sweet, caring, sensitive, naive, selfish, charming, charismatic, and self-centered. She's truly a Libra. lol :D

Now, I know Gubaba is gonna have something to say as he always has to have the last word. <_<

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Well everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I'm not saying I'm right, the only thing I can do is compare things I've heard and seen in real life situations and compare them to what I've seen in Macross.

In my eyes, Minmei is self-centered. She only wants to be around Hikaru when it's convenient for her. She got all butt-hurt when she saw and heard Hikaru and Misa's conversation in town and ran off crying because he added photos of Misa in the photo album. Now...would a girl who had no feelings towards a guy get that sad about a few pictures? So, I think Minmei loved Hikaru (which is why I retracted my accusations of her leading him on), but again she's a bit selfish because she wanted Hikaru to leave the military and settle down. She didn't think he could settle down with her and still be in the military? And when the bombs started flying from Kamjin's ship, she tried to keep him from protecting the city only so that she didn't have to be alone.

I'm not saying that Hikaru is off the hook either. Some of the things that he did to Misa (intentionally and unintentionally) were pretty f*cked up. So, I'm not playing a blame game on anyone. I'm just giving MY interpretation of Minmei: Sweet, caring, sensitive, naive, selfish, charming, charismatic, and self-centered. She's truly a Libra. lol :D

Now, I know Gubaba is gonna have something to say as he always has to have the last word. <_<

No, your opinion is your opinion. Rock on wit' your bad self.

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I do think that Minmay has a selfish streak in her but yeah, Hikaru is definitely the Chief Blockhead in the reconstruction arc. Actually my only problem with Minmay in the reconstruction is her inability to stand up to Kaifun.

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I've only skimmed the last page or so of the discussion, but I get the feeling we have a few members confusing the Robotech Minmay with the Macross one. They are different characters.

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I've only skimmed the last page or so of the discussion, but I get the feeling we have a few members confusing the Robotech Minmay with the Macross one. They are different characters.

Probably this too.

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First post with you boys, and yes, Mingmei is my sole favourite (Sorry Misa, you're already Hikaru's)

Especially for her flagship songs like this: Do you remember love? (Back to those blue nights pre-1995) And as for now, it's her flagship song as my sole

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Welcome. Please read the rules, esp. concerning signatres.

Signatures - No Images.
Signatures must be limited to text only. No images are allowed in signatures. Text signatures should be no taller than eight lines of standard-sized text.

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There's a sign outside her bedroom shaped like a bunny where she spells it "Minmei". Forgot which episode it was.

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There's a sign outside her bedroom shaped like a bunny where she spells it "Minmei". Forgot which episode it was.

Episode 5.

But still, "Minmay" appears at least a dozen times. "Minmei" appears once. "Mingmei" appears not at all.

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Agree on Minngmei. Just saying that a sign that she would put outside her own door is prolly the way she herself would spell her own name. Somehow Minmay became the way to spell it as her stage name.

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Agree on Minngmei. Just saying that a sign that she would put outside her own door is prolly the way she herself would spell her own name. Somehow Minmay became the way to spell it as her stage name.

I've heard that before... I'm not sure the animators thought it through that hard, though. "ミンメイ...? Sure, spell it however you want, guys!"

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That's prolly how it happened, just thinking "in universe" when I saw that door sign the first time I was paying attention.

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That's prolly how it happened, just thinking "in universe" when I saw that door sign the first time I was paying attention.

That's honestly probably the best way to think of it...

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IT'S HER NAME! In Chinese dialect, as she was born in Chinatown Yokohama 20 years ago (Yes, her parents came from China, fleeing from Mao Zedong)

If you don't know what i'm saying, then you better get used to it.

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IT'S HER NAME! In Chinese dialect, as she was born in Chinatown Yokohama 19 years ago (Yes, her parents came from China, fleeing Mao Zedong)

If you don't dont know what i'm saying, then you better get used to it.

So please tell me the actual English version of the names "Jenius," "Shammy," the official German for "Focker," and the Italian for "Global," please...

And I'm not being snarky. If these are real names, I'd like to know the spelling!

EDIT: Oh, and where did you get the info that her parents were fleeing Mao Zedong...? I've looked at Perfect Memory, My Fair Minmay, and Misa Hayase: White Reminiscences, and I don't remember seeing that...

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[sarcasm]

Didn't you know? All Chinese who ever left China, like ever, did it to flee Mao. Even the ones who left before 1949 and after 1976.

[/sarcasm]

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no politics... even between sarcasm tags.

But if that info's in a Macross book, shouldn't it be exempt...?

Here's the proof of her name, and its on Pinyin, a certain type of written Chinese: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynn_Minmay

I hear ya. But again, what about "Jenius," Shammy," "Focker," and "Global"?

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just a warning of not letting discussion too far off topic and going into politics. You can talk about politics within the Macross Universe but anything that doesn't pertain to Macross will be deleted or lead to closing of any thread or worse.

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just a warning of not letting discussion too far off topic and going into politics. You can talk about politics within the Macross Universe but anything that doesn't pertain to Macross will be deleted or lead to closing of any thread or worse.

So it depends on if Mao (not Sara's younger sister) is mentioned in official Macross materials, then. That's fine.

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just a warning of not letting discussion too far off topic and going into politics. You can talk about politics within the Macross Universe but anything that doesn't pertain to Macross will be deleted or lead to closing of any thread or worse.

Curious: how does pointing out the lack of a certain someone as the motivation for the relocation of Minmei's parents in any existing source material, and using sarcasm to point out that fallacious stereotype, fall foul of the no politics rule?
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Curious: how does pointing out the lack of a certain someone as the motivation for the relocation of Minmei's parents in any existing source material, and using sarcasm to point out that fallacious stereotype, fall foul of the no politics rule?

It's pre-warning. Even when you explain that you're being sarcastic people use it as an excuse to jump in with their thoughts about a political subject that has nothing to do with any Macross subject. In fact THAT'S how MOST political discussions start here and it always gets followed by "I know it's off topic..." and "I'm just replying to this one last thing that someone else said and after that I'll shut my mouth about the subject" and then on and on. And it's harder to moderate once the topic gets out of control.

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