close313 Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 The waist is attached by the black side lerx parts at the sides.. So I think the nosecone will just flip between them once you swing down the waist portion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VF5SS Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 I dunno if this helps but here's a basic diagram of how the transformation works. It's easy to see in the game but it hard to understand otherwise. There's two sets of swing bars that move the parts around independently and the nosecone is on its own arm that passes between the second set of bars to end up facing to the rear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no3Ljm Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 (edited) Anyways, been trying to study the photos released earlier from Bandai and try to figure out if the pelvic joint will be tight and if the joint will hold the figure itself standing up. I noticed also that this figure will be upper body heavy so that's the only worry I have. But overall design of the valk, I'm digging it esp in Valk and Battroid mode. Here's some color chart I did regarding transformation so I hope someone can point out if the pelvic area/joint is enough to hold out the weight. I know also that the pelvic joint rotates which I've seen on Kawamori's video. Also attaching here the YouTube video/link. Check out from 0:15 to 2:29, YF-30 in Lego mode. I remember posting this one the night that crazy preorder madness started. I'm studying how the transformation works out and how stable will be in battroid mode. Hope this one helps. I'm sure there's going to be locking mechanism and whatnot. But knowing Bandai's loose joint in the forseeable future, one will think how good the toy will be when it's released. I'm one of them now since I also PO'ed this one. Hehehe. I guess, the best answer to that is the display stand that comes with it. I'm still thinking how long the side bar (yellow-the one that connects to the pelvis area-red) will be in order the nose cone (green) to flip going to the back area. Edited May 15, 2014 by no3ljm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M'Kyuun Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 (edited) If they had designed the nose to hinge further back on the lower fuselage, the leg swing bar could have been shortened so that the waist attaches in line with the neck, rather than sitting so far forward. Not sure if the way they did it is exactingly according to SK's design, or just a mechanical necessity for whatever reason. Either way, it doesn't look right to me. Even with all the folding going on with the SV-51, Yamato still managed to get everything to line up pretty well. As for the shoulders attaching slightly aft of the neck, I think that actually gives a more aggressive look , so long as it's not too far back. I also like how he designed the shoulders and canards to rotate and overlap. However, the upper chest covering the canopy was better realized on the VF-4. It's a valk, and I want to like it, but there are too many things about the design that, to me, are just off, including the big dispenser. To those who do like it, great!, and I hope the toy is awesome. Edited May 15, 2014 by M'Kyuun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YF-29 Durandal Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 (edited) The release is in August according to Tamashii Nations. http://www.tamashii.jp/item/10693/ Edited May 19, 2014 by YF-29 Durandal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest davidwhangchoi Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 (edited) i'm hoping it's stable in battroid as well. the transformation looks interesting. i'm excited the missile pack has the option to be swap-able. curious what fastpacks/options will be offered Edited May 19, 2014 by davidwhangchoi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukenzero Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 I'm more intrigued on how we won't scratch anything or make it a floppy mess after a few transformations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanedas Bike Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 i'm hoping it's stable in battroid as well. the transformation looks interesting. i'm excited the missile pack has the option to be swap-able. curious what fastpacks/options will be offered I'm more intrigued on how we won't scratch anything or make it a floppy mess after a few transformations. Intrigued by your respective intrigues. But yeah, swappable ordinance would be pretty cool and a(another besides the 25A or anything else someone wants to add to the list) release that doesn't turn into noodles after a transformation or two would be amazing. -b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukenzero Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 Haha I'm hoping it'll be their best released valk yet. The VF-171 was a crying shame as it was one of the coolest valks in my book. Optional equipment is interesting, but still find the whole back plate missile thingy a gimmicky design. Each to their own! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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YF-29 Durandal Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 Haha I'm hoping it'll be their best released valk yet. The VF-171 was a crying shame as it was one of the coolest valks in my book. Optional equipment is interesting, but still find the whole back plate missile thingy a gimmicky design. Each to their own! Yeah and I also think that it looks similar to the VF-25F plus that I missed the pre-orders so I might not pick one up at all and I really don't feel like paying $200 for this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no3Ljm Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 Wing/Arm deployment reminds me of YF-21. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mommar Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 That is a pretty awesome Battroid pose there in the bottom left corner. I hope the hips hold up well, you put a 29 in that same pose and it'll never stand correct again. Too bad the Gerwalk pic has the flash covering it. I'd like to get a better look at it there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanedas Bike Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 Agree, that Battroid pose is pretty killer. If I get one I will definitely wait before I hear about the experience other folks are having it before transforming mine. -b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no3Ljm Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 I just hope they'll include a PVC head laser for this aside from the ABS ones as a standard package. Don't want to hit every now and then the ABS head lasers and crack, snap or break when the missle pod rotates. It's the only valid reason for me why sometimes I appreciate the PVC items. I just wished that they should have included an ABS head lasers for 25F releases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanner Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 anyone know where I might still be able to pre-order this or am I too late? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanedas Bike Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 anyone know where I might still be able to pre-order this or am I too late? Just have to keep checking the usual places like HLJ, Hobby Search and AmiAmi to see when they randomly re-open pre-orders up until release. -b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IXTL Posted May 24, 2014 Share Posted May 24, 2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanedas Bike Posted May 24, 2014 Share Posted May 24, 2014 Could it be that this is growing on me, or could it be that I just like buying Valkyries....? Thanks for the pictures/scans IXTL. -b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anime52k8 Posted May 24, 2014 Share Posted May 24, 2014 Both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ULessa Posted May 24, 2014 Share Posted May 24, 2014 Hopefully some more pre-orders will open up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firefox Posted May 24, 2014 Share Posted May 24, 2014 anyone know where I might still be able to pre-order this or am I too late? Don't worry mate. I'm sure when this is actually released, you could check on Mandrake site (http://ekizo.mandarake.co.jp/shop/en/), you may get it cheaper than the pre-order. I made a mistake for my YF-29 Isamu. Should have waited for the release instead of rushing in for the pre-order from NY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Kanedas Bike Posted May 24, 2014 Share Posted May 24, 2014 Both. Ha! You know me so well. Hopefully some more pre-orders will open up! Ditto, I've been stalking HLJ and other places like crazy. Don't worry mate. I'm sure when this is actually released, you could check on Mandrake site (http://ekizo.mandarake.co.jp/shop/en/), you may get it cheaper than the pre-order. I made a mistake for my YF-29 Isamu. Should have waited for the release instead of rushing in for the pre-order from NY I might have agreed with this line of thinking (or even said something similar) prior to the Ozma 29 but my gut tells me this will be just as, if not more popular. If pre-orders remain scarce then once this hits the market I'd bet that even Mandarake will have it at a markup at release. But fingers crossed. -b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scyla Posted May 24, 2014 Share Posted May 24, 2014 You should keep in mind that the YF-29 Isamu Custom was a web-shop exclusive when making assumptions about the release of the Frontier toys. I think this won't be as hard to get as the YF-29 Ozma Custom but you never know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loop Posted May 24, 2014 Share Posted May 24, 2014 Nice! it looks like the missile container detaches according to the pic that is just a couple posts ^^. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sildani Posted May 24, 2014 Share Posted May 24, 2014 I saw that. Gives me hope for an add-on pack containing new weapons - maybe large missiles - and underwing stores. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charger69 Posted May 24, 2014 Share Posted May 24, 2014 I demand a mini Macross cannon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanedas Bike Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 I demand a mini Macross cannon Word. And I demand to be able to find one at a reasonable price. -b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duymon Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 (edited) Goodness... imagine what'll happen if they release multiple weapon pods... people will need (number of weapon pods) x 3 for each mode :0 Hopefully the 4 I've got will suffice O_o You should keep in mind that the YF-29 Isamu Custom was a web-shop exclusive when making assumptions about the release of the Frontier toys. I think this won't be as hard to get as the YF-29 Ozma Custom but you never know. So many people got burned waiting around for the Ozzy , and even several who preordered got burned, so I wouldn't take my chances on this one :0 Edited May 25, 2014 by Duymon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saburo Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 Goodness... imagine what'll happen if they release multiple weapon pods... people will need (number of weapon pods) x 3 for each mode :0 Hopefully the 4 I've got will suffice O_o My guess it that weapon pod addons for the YF-30 will be Bandai's answer to the Super/Armored/Tornado Part for the other Valks. If they do in that direction, I hope they sell it as a set with different weapon pods, not one weapon pod at a time. Knowing Bandai, it will be each one separately so they can bleed us further for money. hahaha... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sildani Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 (edited) Yeah, it'll probably be one weapon pod and the underwing missiles from the 171EX Super parts set. Then another pod and, hey, some 1/60 SMS ground crew! And another pod and maybe a new plastic stand to look like a revetment or something. By then, one of the Chronos' repaints, either Thrust or Skywarp, will become available, and the cycle of color-matched pods will begin again. It's the circle of Frontier life. Edited May 25, 2014 by Sildani Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Hingtgen Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 A recon pod would be a really good option. Or even, a container that has like mini-Ghosts inside. Could probably pack 3, maybe 4 decent-sized drones inside, if mounted semi-conformally. Finally---just make the optional pods black. Every scheme we've seen has a decent amount of black, so while it may not be the ideal match, it'll look ok with any of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anime52k8 Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 You KNOW any pods will be color matched so you have to re-buy them every time they do a repaint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest davidwhangchoi Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 You KNOW any pods will be color matched so you have to re-buy them every time they do a repaint. so true. like the 171 armor and missiles. they made sure to only include color specific hard point wings so you had to buy the armor for alto ex and the cannon fodder 2x instead of like yamatos vf-1 fast packs. yf-30 = bandai's swiss army accessory money maker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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